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Honestly, Tesla has done a great job. They really have reduced the need for someone like Apple to improve upon their product.
 
Apple will show up late to the party as usual but this time it's going to be trickier to take over like they did with the iPod and iPhone because Tesla is no slouch when it comes to design and performance. And considering that most iPhone mockups were less advanced than the actual product, and most Apple Watch mock ups were more advanced than what shipped, I'm thinking this Apple Car won't be quite as revolutionary and more like an Apple Watch: A solid design that works a bit better and easier than most smart watches, but is also priced higher and has much slower growth.

I think the Apple Car will be good for people in the Apple ecosystem, have a uniquely sharp design, but be similar or, at most, just slightly better than the competition—and that's probably after a few models. I think for Apple to really pull ahead they're going to need some kind of crazy hardware, such as really amazingly advanced battery tech or energy efficient systems that set themselves apart, along with the look. And by the time they ship, probably 5-7 years from now, they better have a damn good self-driving system that is miles away from the Apple Maps debacle or the whole thing will be a flop.
 
Loud motor noises? I'm not sure I would trust an electric motor for a personal aircraft, so it makes sense to use a fossil fuel motor for the iCraft. :rolleyes:

I still crack up every time I see the "loud motor noises" rumor pop up.

Say Apple is developing a car, which would be tesla-like in idea, meaning electric, why would anyone hear motor noises from any development area? "Hey guys, let's develop a car to rival tesla, but let's test petrol engines beforehand so we know what an engine is."
Unless they are developing a petrol engined car, which will use fuel that's twice as efficient and twice as refined for "unapologetic performance".

Electric powertrain testers can be very loud as well, more so than your average on road gasoline engine in some cases.
 
If Apple actually does build a car and its an electric, i wonder where they will buy the lithium batteries for it? Tesla has cornered the world market on the element and with 325K orders and counting on their model 3, they will be lghtyears ahead of Apple in mfg skill. The only thing that makes sense to me is that Apple buys Tesla outright. We'll see...

The only other thing that makes sense is that Apple will partner with either Diamler Benz or BMW or a Japanese company to compete with Tesla.
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I can't wait to see this car...gonna be the thinnest car you've ever seen. Too bad the battery won't last very long.
Batteries? They're going to have to get them from Tesla who soon will control the world market on lithium ion batteries.
 
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I love Tesla as a company. I think Elon Musk is the coolest. But I just can't get into the visual design of Tesla cars. There's just something weak about the aesthetics when you compare them other high end cars.
 
I wonder what the price will be. $50,000? ...

If it's priced like other Apple products...

Then the base price for the model that can go 160 miles without a charge will be $49,999.

For every 160 mile range expansion that costs Apple $1,000 to add, they will change an extra $10,000.

And a lucrative third part market will arise, selling windshield protectors that will require incredible skill to install without seeing air or dust bubbles.

/jk
 
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#gonnastickwithmy5.0literV8
#stickwithmyhorseandcarriage
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Say Apple is developing a car, which would be tesla-like in idea, meaning electric, why would anyone hear motor noises from any development area? "Hey guys, let's develop a car to rival tesla, but let's test petrol engines beforehand so we know what an engine is."
Unless they are developing a petrol engined car, which will use fuel that's twice as efficient and twice as refined for "unapologetic performance".
Interesting point re. engine sounds but petrol isn't as efficient as electricity at point of use electricity is much more efficient and greener, the big variable however is how it was generated in the first place.
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Hopefully many country will soon follow Neatherland and ban the sell of gasoline and gasoil cars. And maybe shortly after ban them from the road altogether
[doublepost=1460440920][/doublepost]That would be way more innovative and interesting.

I imagine that this would be as divisive an issue in the US as universal healthcare.
 
Apple was right in picking this challenge.

The car will morph the company again (much to the chagrin of the "underdog Apple" fans).
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If it's priced like other Apple products...

Then the base price for the model that can go 160 miles without a charge will be $49,999.

For every 160 mile range expansion that costs Apple $1,000 to add, they will change an extra $10,000.

And a lucrative third part market will arise, selling windshield protectors that will require incredible skill to install without seeing air or dust bubbles.

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Ooooh! You must apply for a comedy show!
 
Article: "The fence will "prevent any visual connection to the service yard from the parking lot," according to the city documents."

Ever heard of drones?
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Not sure about you but I can't afford to spend the cost of a college tuition on a car.
I would be very surprised if Apple would undercut Teslas prices, leave alone significantly.
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I think Elon Musk is the coolest.
Depends on one's personal view, I guess. For me, someone who forces an employee to decide between company and family, is far from being cool.
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with 325K orders and counting on their model 3, [Tesla] will be lghtyears ahead of Apple in mfg skill.
In sheer manufacturing numbers, it's Apple that is light years ahead of Tesla. And both are far behind any reputated car maker out there, when it comes to car manufacturing.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that Apple buys Tesla outright.
Tesla still has to prove that they can eventually deliver upon their promises. So far their track record for mass products and production is nothing to write home about.

The only other thing that makes sense is that Apple will partner with either Diamler Benz or BMW or a Japanese company to compete with Tesla.
I see no reason why Apple could not leverage it's existing business contacts with chinese companies to produce a potential car. Even the big players in the automobile world get a significant part of their car parts as complete component assembly already. Apple has proven to be able to assure a consistent level of good quality from chinese fabs, so the hardest part of actually producing that potential car is to put the function blocks together, akin to Lego. (Okay, in reality it's a bit more complex, but really lots of R&D and pre-assembly is already done by subcontractors these days. Until recently, the big players prouded themselves of engine and suspension being their "core competencies" - and purchased most of the rest).

Only drawback could be the logistics cost for such a (comparably) huge product, so I'd expect a potential Apple car to be produced in a variety of locations worldwide. Apple will already have to say "Goodbye" to their very healthy margins anyway if they want to successfully enter the car market.

Batteries? They're going to have to get them from Tesla who soon will control the world market on lithium ion batteries.
Apple is not depending on LiIon batteries. There are enough other approaches for a decently "green" car engine, ranging from different battery technologies to hydrogen motors.
 
Say Apple is developing a car, which would be tesla-like in idea, meaning electric, why would anyone hear motor noises from any development area? "Hey guys, let's develop a car to rival tesla, but let's test petrol engines beforehand so we know what an engine is."
Unless they are developing a petrol engined car, which will use fuel that's twice as efficient and twice as refined for "unapologetic performance".

Good point! I agree, electric motors are very quiet. Back in around the year 2000, I was a Salesman at a Ford Dealership, one night i was asked to go open the garage doors because we had to store some Electric Vehicles inside for the night. I'll never forget, they drove a Ford Ranger Pickup, A Grand Marquis Full Size Car & a Taurus Electric vehicle right pass me, and you couldn't hear any motor noise at all. That was quite a few years ago. So I know Ford has the ability to produce electric vehicles, I've seen them up close and personal. One other thing, there were no visual clues as vehicle design that would identify them as an electric vehicle. Exterior looks were exactly the same as the Gas Engine Models.
 
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How much conventional "motor noise" does an electric motor produce? If Apple really wanted to conceal such noise, why wouldn't they install sound baffling in the testing facility?
 
Their next building could be called -- URANUS
Οὐρανός (Ouranós) Uranus The god of the heavens (Father Sky); father of the Titans.:D
 
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