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Claimed Dock Connector From iPhone 5 Reveals Few Changes
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Yeah, not much news here... Of course Apple wasn't going to drop the 30 pin connector and move to micro USB. Nothing in the EU regulation demands that.
The 30 pin connector already has two channels of Firewire data plus a few unused and reserved pins. It would be possible I think to make a Thunderbolt compatible iPod / iPhone using the Firewire pins, but I don't know what would happen if you plugged a 2004 iPod into that Thunderbolt cable. Maybe Thunderbolt can be made backward compatible with Firewire...
The 30 pin connector already has two channels of Firewire data plus a few unused and reserved pins. It would be possible I think to make a Thunderbolt compatible iPod / iPhone using the Firewire pins, but I don't know what would happen if you plugged a 2004 iPod into that Thunderbolt cable. Maybe Thunderbolt can be made backward compatible with Firewire...
Judging by the pic, isn't it obvious we're getting a 2x Retina display?
And isn't that the connector for the white iPhone?
The Dock connector on a current iPhone has a few pins which were used for Firewire in the earlier iPods - but even my iPhone 2G would only charge from a Firewire connector, never sync, and iPhone 3G dropped even that.
Probably easy enough to 'key' LightPeak/Thunderbolt Dock cables so they won't plug into earlier iPhones, if that's an issue.
Of course, there's not much point yet: the speed iPhones sync data is a long way short of the maximum USB 2 can handle, let alone USB 3. Having said that, a smarter future sync implementation could use the 1 Gb of RAM as cache and complete the sync operation in a few seconds, as long as there aren't over a gigabyte of changes to download. Even with just a few apps, syncing can be frustratingly slow at the moment; syncing to RAM then committing the changes to Flash later would get around all that.
Why would to even bring up your "point" when it is clearly stated in the article???? " but Apple can meet the new requirements by simply including a dock connector to micro-USB adapter."
Hear my plea . . . (an earnest entreaty)
Can't we just keep the 30-pin connector please? I know it may be growing long in the tooth as they say. But it works, and it is seemingly the only constant in our I/O world. Think about it; we've seen or have USB (insert a number here) and of course USB Type (insert a letter, A or B), Firewire 400, no wait 800 (or standard IEEE 1394 a, b, c and even maybe a "d"), Ethernet, Serial port - yeah, remember those, Parallel port, VGA, DVI, Display Port . . . errr or is that Mini Display Port, SCSI and now Thunderbolt (really, Thunderbolt ?)
BOOM (that's the sound of my head exploding)
My little 30-pin connector is my rock in this tumultuous I/O world. While I have a drawer full of unwanted and tangled (just like Christmas lights) connectors for everything from cameras, scanners and drives, my 30-pin connector still finds use. Think of it, a standard that has been, well, standard . . . since the 3rd Gen iPod in 2003. I have them littered about the house, by the bed for charging at night, by my couch to keep a charge during the day. The kids might even use one to tie their water bottles to their bikes. They're practically disposable. I can travel with one cable to charge either my iPhone or iPad. Many hotels I stay at have the 30-pin compatible clock radios so I don't even need my cable while I sleep. We have external speakers, automotive accessories, FM transmitters, GPS receivers and numerous cars (including my own) that have a 30-pin connector included for the audio system. The world has truly become a 30-pin connector-friendly place. We have this amazing infrastructure built entirely around this one standard . . . . And people want to change it?
Please, for now, allow me to only worry about all the soon-to-be-junk that I own that does not have a Thunderbolt connector (again with the naming?) and how I will come to upgrade my system to support it. And let me enjoy not needing to by extra Thunderbolt connectors for my iPhone at Best Buy at the bargain price of $29.99.
Thank you for your support
Can't we just keep the 30-pin connector please? I know it may be growing long in the tooth as they say. But it works, and it is seemingly the only constant in our I/O world. Think about it; we've seen or have USB (insert a number here) and of course USB Type (insert a letter, A or B), Firewire 400, no wait 800 (or standard IEEE 1394 a, b, c and even maybe a "d"), Ethernet, Serial port - yeah, remember those, Parallel port, VGA, DVI, Display Port . . . errr or is that Mini Display Port, SCSI and now Thunderbolt (really, Thunderbolt ?)
BOOM (that's the sound of my head exploding)
My little 30-pin connector is my rock in this tumultuous I/O world. While I have a drawer full of unwanted and tangled (just like Christmas lights) connectors for everything from cameras, scanners and drives, my 30-pin connector still finds use. Think of it, a standard that has been, well, standard . . . since the 3rd Gen iPod in 2003. I have them littered about the house, by the bed for charging at night, by my couch to keep a charge during the day. The kids might even use one to tie their water bottles to their bikes. They're practically disposable. I can travel with one cable to charge either my iPhone or iPad. Many hotels I stay at have the 30-pin compatible clock radios so I don't even need my cable while I sleep. We have external speakers, automotive accessories, FM transmitters, GPS receivers and numerous cars (including my own) that have a 30-pin connector included for the audio system. The world has truly become a 30-pin connector-friendly place. We have this amazing infrastructure built entirely around this one standard . . . . And people want to change it?
Please, for now, allow me to only worry about all the soon-to-be-junk that I own that does not have a Thunderbolt connector (again with the naming?) and how I will come to upgrade my system to support it. And let me enjoy not needing to by extra Thunderbolt connectors for my iPhone at Best Buy at the bargain price of $29.99.
Thank you for your support
Keep dreaming.. Thunderbolt is built on PCI Express technology, which currently exists on x86 computers. It's not easily portable to low-powered ARM devices.. So, not happening on iPhone/iPad any time soon.
Also, the patent you link to is around combining USB 3.0 and DisplayPort connector. It has no mention whatsoever about 30-pin dock connector used by iOS devices.
Ummm who said they were changing it? If anything this picture confirms that its staying the same. I don't see the dock connector changing anytime soon anway. Thunderbolt support will be worked into current dock connector for future devices.
Can't we just keep the 30-pin connector please? I know it may be growing long in the tooth as they say. But it works, and it is seemingly the only constant in our I/O world. Think about it; we've seen or have USB (insert a number here) and of course USB Type (insert a letter, A or B), Firewire 400, no wait 800 (or standard IEEE 1394 a, b, c and even maybe a "d"), Ethernet, Serial port - yeah, remember those, Parallel port, VGA, DVI, Display Port . . . errr or is that Mini Display Port, SCSI and now Thunderbolt (really, Thunderbolt ?)
BOOM (that's the sound of my head exploding)
My little 30-pin connector is my rock in this tumultuous I/O world. While I have a drawer full of unwanted and tangled (just like Christmas lights) connectors for everything from cameras, scanners and drives, my 30-pin connector still finds use. Think of it, a standard that has been, well, standard . . . since the 3rd Gen iPod in 2003. I have them littered about the house, by the bed for charging at night, by my couch to keep a charge during the day. The kids might even use one to tie their water bottles to their bikes. They're practically disposable. I can travel with one cable to charge either my iPhone or iPad. Many hotels I stay at have the 30-pin compatible clock radios so I don't even need my cable while I sleep. We have external speakers, automotive accessories, FM transmitters, GPS receivers and numerous cars (including my own) that have a 30-pin connector included for the audio system. The world has truly become a 30-pin connector-friendly place. We have this amazing infrastructure built entirely around this one standard . . . . And people want to change it?
Please, for now, allow me to only worry about all the soon-to-be-junk that I own that does not have a Thunderbolt connector (again with the naming?) and how I will come to upgrade my system to support it. And let me enjoy not needing to by extra Thunderbolt connectors for my iPhone at Best Buy at the bargain price of $29.99.
Thank you for your support
My post is in response to all those who want to change it and think the 30-pin should go. Plus, the thread is a Rumor, so not technically confirmed that it is the connector for the iPhone 5
If htey could somehow make the flat standard connector to incorporate a thunderbolt form factor, it would be amazing.
also make the throughput fast enough on the iphone to transfer the data.. whole library syncing would be done in minutes
also make the throughput fast enough on the iphone to transfer the data.. whole library syncing would be done in minutes
Ha, ha....
Next up - people have found "screws"...
You laugh, but were Apple to start using a proprietary "Hexalobe" screw head... It'd be all the rage for a few weeks.
Not to mention the speed of the memory used on the phone would be (by far) the limiting factor in the transfer over a high-speed interconnect.
And isn't that the connector for the white iPhone?
I thought so but the plastic parts are black...
Well at least it would still increase throughput considering that USB 2.0 is likely the bottleneck in the current iPhone.
Ha, ha....
Next up - people have found "screws"...
It's called, "Scraping the bottom of the product pre-release barrel..."
As if showing pics of iPhone 5 "parts" will keep the general public from buying Android instead...
A slide-out keyboard doesn't have to mean a QWERTY chicklet keyboard.
It could be slide out touchpad or flat D-pad and buttons for games.
But I agree a slide-out seems to go against Apple design philosophy of simplicity.
It could be slide out touchpad or flat D-pad and buttons for games.
But I agree a slide-out seems to go against Apple design philosophy of simplicity.
