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bushido said:
ill wait for the announcement of the iPhone and decide after if its time to try something new and fresh ;)
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That's the same thing I am thinking about doing, wait out for Apple to present the new iPhone and then decide if I should give the Galaxy S3 a shot.
 
Intel Quick Sync Video

NedBookPro said:
And on that note, I fear that in the OSX ML upgrade, I wont be able to do airplay mirroring because my MBPro is mid 2010, and doesn't make it. Why? God knows. I guess apple want me to buy a new MBPro for that feature, even though my MB is less that 1.5 years old. Preposterous.
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The Core 2 Duo and first generation Core i5/i7 (Nehalem/Westmere) Intel Macs don't have the "Intel Quick Sync Video" built into the CPU. It is a hardware video encoder that is extremely fast (at a small cost to quality). This hardware is responsible for compressing the video stream to send over wireless connection to the Apple TV or just encoding for software at a much higher rate than a software encoder ever could (such as HandBrake).

I have an iMac and MacBook Pro both with first generation Core i7s that can't use AirPlay Mirroring natively, but they can do AirPlay Mirroring with software such as "AirParrot". The CPU will just work that much harder to do the job and the cooling fans will spin faster. This is also why the my first MacBook Pro with the very first Core2Duo (2006) can AirPlay with iTunes, but not AirPlay Mirroring (the entire display) without extra software.
 
NedBookPro said:
we will offer you one with a weird size that offers no real benefit other than to watch movies
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It is pretty clear why they picked the weird size. They didn't want to change the phone's physical size but wanted to give it a larger display. If you look at the current iPhone, the biggest blank space(bezel) is above and below the screen, which means a longer screen. I don't like it either but it's an understandable decision, especially when you also consider the app compatibility as well.

NedBookPro said:
To me that is totally bizarre. Even Steve Jobs said something about needing sandpaper to sand down the tips of your fingers to use a 7" ipad. What about the tiny screen of the iphone???? What are we stupid?
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He meant that cramming iPad's content into a smaller display would be too much as touch targets would be too small. iPhone's touch targets aren't that small because apps are made with the 44 point minimum size in mind.

NedBookPro said:
With the macbook pro for example, there are CHOICES. ///

With iphone this is NOT the case.
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That is indeed pretty odd especially with the smaller iPad supposedly coming out soon. Back in 2007, I thought by year 5, we'd have at least two distinctive models of iPhone with different size.

My theory is that going forward, Apple might be thinking that iPad is more important than iPhone and thus they are branching out iPad first. iPhone is the cash cow but iPad might be what Apple thinks will be the back bone of the company strategy in the coming years, but that's a complete guess without any evidence.
 
bushido said:
i hate this home button so much. i hope it goes away and never comes back with the iPhone 7

and meh at still using the same design just bigger. is apple getting lazy now that they are on top?

i wish they would go back to something with more curves, my 4/4S are uncomfy to hold. saw the S3 for the first time out in the wild last week and i have to say, it feels nicer in your hand and its actually not that much bigger considering its screen size.

ill wait for the announcement of the iPhone and decide after if its time to try something new and fresh ;)
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I like the Glass and Metal better than all plastic myself. Plastic has been used for decades because it's cheap and easy to mold. (I know it has some other advantages too) But I really think a phone without plastic looks sharper. The new design appears to be quite different and all metal on the back and sides, so I don't see why it appears to be the same design? You must be only looking at this front panel that's not even a replacement part! (The actual part will likely have a front panel and the LCD display glued together!)

What's wrong with the home button, would you rather there was no button at all? Most people complain about the lack of buttons, not a button period.
 
fertilized-egg said:
My theory is that going forward, Apple might be thinking that iPad is more important than iPhone and thus they are branching out iPad first. iPhone is the cash cow but iPad might be what Apple thinks will be the back bone of the company strategy in the coming years, but that's a complete guess without any evidence.
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That's a pretty cool theory, the future iPads may virtually do away with the on screen touch keyboard increasing the input options with speech. This is a major limitation I see in the iOS devices right now, because they are no match to this Apple Wireless Keyboard I'm using now.

Perhaps when the ARM CPUs in the future get to be 10-100 times as powerful as todays Quad Core Intel IvyBridge CPUs, Siri, or some other input technology, will be all local (built in without need for Server support) and more customizable to you and your voice and lifestyle. I think at this point the iOS devices may really shine as a useful personal assistant. (Eventually getting as useful as a human assistant, or in some cases – better)

Anyone who thinks that mobile CPUs won't be that powerful ever are not paying attention to history. The 867 MHz Dual Core Power Mac G4 had a GeekBench score of 703 to 751, and the iPad 2 with a dual core CPU has a GeekBench of 749. They have virtually the same score, and are both dual core, but one uses perhaps 100 times as much power (watts) and it is only 8.5 years older! I see a mobile device at least 10 times as powerful has todays MacBook Pro in 10-13 years. (I don't know if 10 times is enough for local speech recognition and minimal AI to be useful, but better software and 1000 times the speed should be, and that's less than 19 years away.)
 
Phone looks amazing, and probably the perfect size.

Bigger is not better, otherwise we'd all be walking around with 80 inch LCD phones...
 
I've posted this before, but still haven't fond a good answer...

Has anyone found any trace of the new purported screen resolution in iOS 6?
People found a retina sized bookmark image for iPad before, and somewhere in the iOS code, there's usually some indication of what's to come.. right?

Anything?
 
bbplayer5 said:
Blows me away why people still buy these things. It literally looks like the very first iPhone from the front. Sure the backing sides etc have changed but lets be honestly.. Apple has completely run out of ideas.

- A slightly larger screen that is years behind the competition.
- Basically the same UI it has had for 5 years. Sure some additions to it, but it looks the same and you still cant customize it without jailbreaking.
- Last company to the market with LTE - argument here is battery life. I get great battery out of my Nexus with LTE on. Copout.


Its just the same phone, a little bigger.
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Exactly what I think.
iPhone comes to its middle age and there is nothing more to be added.
The next step would be outside the box of smartphone nowadays that is a higher level of invention.
Like MP3 player becomes a part of Phone or presentation 'slide' becomes a software in computer.
 
SpectatorHere said:
We haven't seen much at all. And we've been here before with the last iPhone roll-out. People make counterfeits based off of rumors and put them out as real. There is no disputing this. We may even see major aftermarket companies bet thousands of dollars on a leak.

So, we have all that on the one hand, and one weird form factor case design that's shown up in three or four places now. Not even a phone, just some metal and plastic that are in the shape of what's claimed to be the new iPhone. Oh, it just so happens this weird case follows speculation from someone on a rumor site EXACTLY.

Apparently that guy (if anyone wants to find the post they can)--who was talking about maintaining "retina-ess" with a 4 inch display--nailed the it. He just figured it out. He argued they could just add another row of icons. EDIT: Here's the first mention I find off hand on April 9th at the Verge. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/9/2937265/the-4-inch-iphone-5 Most people, I think, made quick note of how it would break every app and didn't take it seriously until the predictable blurry photos showed up. Now most everyone just assumes this is it. (BTW, the blurry photos aren't even all the same design, we can now see there are discrepancies...the noise canceling mic hole between camera and flash, the placement of the front-facing camera.)

If these rumors are true:

-Every app will have to either be stretched, boxed, or ported.
This is simply enough, basically letter box apps that don't update to the new screen size.

-New connector means many existing accessories will not work for this phone.
Very valid point. I know I have a ton of accessories for mine having owned iPods and iPhones for years. The dock connector is outdated in it's current form. they love thinner form factors and the dock connector is in the way. They will make a smaller one. They released a $10 adapter for the new magsafe connector so they could do the same thing here.

-Mini-iPad rumors, which now have reached credible sources like the NY Times, wouldn't use this new aspect ratio for some reason.
If the rumors are true, it's the same resolution as iPad 1 & 2 and aspect ratio. iPad 3 uses the same aspect ratio as the previous generations. The phone doesn't factor into this at all.

-Cook's "one screen size, one resolution" given at D10. He was talking at the time, and didn't mention the future, but now we're supposed to believe not only the size is changing, but also the resolution....even more, the aspect ratio?????
Every CURRENT phone. No where does he mention future plans. IF they change the screen size, within a couple of years they will only have one screen size again.

EDIT: Here is Tim's exact quote: "One thing is that we're not fragmented. Look at the percentage of users who upgraded to iOS 5. We have one App Store. We have one phone with one screen size, one resolution. So it's pretty simple if you're a developer."

I may be proven wrong, but I don't think this is anything but fake.
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You have excellent points. I tend to agree with you but the iPhone 4 form factor is almost two years old and based on Apple's past patterns, its due for a major revision. Screen size is one area they can make a huge change. It would nice to have a dedicated area for notifications etc.
 
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nick_elt said:
with all the millions of different sized android phones, why doesnt one of the manufacturers have a premium phone that is only 4'? all the flagship models are more like paddles. That is one of the biggest reasons holding me back fom anything else. Yeh ive heard the new note is .2 larger, when i picked up a note first thing i noticed was how small it was................
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The Droid Incredible 4G LTE is a "barely" premium phone that has a 4" screen. The specs that lower it from premium is the S-LCD panel (instead of S-LCD2 with IPS like on the One X) and the Snapdragon S4 is clocked at 1.2 instead of 1.5, and it has 1 GB of RAM instead of 2.

The CPU and RAM is hard to notice, and I was getting comparable scores on javascript benchmarks between the Galaxy SIII and Droid Incredible 4G LTE. So, really, the good, but not awesome screen is the only thing really holding it back. Better than any pentile screen by a long shot tho.

The design flaws on it aren't too severe. The camera, like most android phones, sticks out a little and isn't protected by something replaceable like the iPhone, so you kinda need a case. Also, you need a case because the device creaks when you squeeze its sides cause the back is removable. Also the screen changes colors when you press on the edges off the screen. So, yeah, build quality is not as good as the iPhone, but with an otter box on it, it's hard to notice.

Verizon is currently way overcharging for this phone on contract. I've heard of people getting it for as little as $109, dunno how tho.
 
Evoken said:
That's the same thing I am thinking about doing, wait out for Apple to present the new iPhone and then decide if I should give the Galaxy S3 a shot.
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I have a Galaxy S3 right now and I can tell you even iPhone 4S is superior in most ways. The advantages to the S3 are:

- A somewhat better forward facing camera and faster camera software that has more features. I like taking pictures of myself holding my son, so this comes in handy sometimes.

- Expandable storage that is fast and large (MicroSDXC). But with everything going cloud these days, I'm not sure how much anyone cares. Still, the fact that it both allows for more storage and uses the fast stuff is very confidence boosting that you are more future proof.

Those are really the only true advantages I can put on the phone against the 4S. The rest are all subject to use. The differences in the rear camera are a wash. I can't give it points for a replaceable battery since the 4S lasts 3 days for me and this one can't get through half a day without additional charging. Android vs. iOS is mostly a wash other than fragmentation causing games like Angry Birds Space to have a nearly unusably small UI (sprites were made for lower rez screen). Build quality is also pretty subjective, I'd say the 4S edges over the S3 simply because it has metal construction and the buttons feel slightly better quality. The plastic on the back of the S3 is very nice to the touch tho. The speed feels the same between the two and on iOS 6 Safari is benching comparable numbers to the US S3.

I want to make myself very clear tho, the advantages of this phone over other ANDROIDS is a much better picture. The only real competition is the HTC One X which has a MUCH better screen, but sacrifices a lot of expandability. If the Verizon S3 had the HTC One X's screen, shrunk down to 4 - 4.3", had an unlocked boot loader and something like AOKP was supported on it without voiding the warranty, and the battery lasted for 48 hours with 8 hours of screen time: THAT would be a compelling alternative to the iPhone 4S. Which is why I'm very interested in the rumored Motorola RAZR HD, which is supposed to have a 720P IPS screen at 4.3" with a snapdragon S4 and the RAZR MAXX's battery. But this is just a rumor.

As of right now, the Android I really want to experience Sony Xperia SX (or maybe GX) in Japan. The Galaxy S3 is going back to AT&T this week.
 
dokujaryu said:
The Droid Incredible 4G LTE is a "barely" premium phone that has a 4" screen. The specs that lower it from premium is the S-LCD panel (instead of S-LCD2 with IPS like on the One X) and the Snapdragon S4 is clocked at 1.2 instead of 1.5, and it has 1 GB of RAM instead of 2.

The CPU and RAM is hard to notice, and I was getting comparable scores on javascript benchmarks between the Galaxy SIII and Droid Incredible 4G LTE. So, really, the good, but not awesome screen is the only thing really holding it back. Better than any pentile screen by a long shot tho.

The design flaws on it aren't too severe. The camera, like most android phones, sticks out a little and isn't protected by something replaceable like the iPhone, so you kinda need a case. Also, you need a case because the device creaks when you squeeze its sides cause the back is removable. Also the screen changes colors when you press on the edges off the screen. So, yeah, build quality is not as good as the iPhone, but with an otter box on it, it's hard to notice.

Verizon is currently way overcharging for this phone on contract. I've heard of people getting it for as little as $109, dunno how tho.
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Im not sure if its available outside the us? I have never seen it here in europe... Does it even work on the gsm frquencies over here?
 
solarguy17 said:
"Another dud model"?? What do you mean? Every new iPhone model has sold more Then the previous model. And every model of iPhone has always out sold more then any other phone being sold at that time.
You statement makes no sense. There has been no "dud" models. Everyone is better and better. The only duds in the market have been many of the Andriod phones that are still outsold by a 3 yr old 3GS.
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Because people bought the Iphone 4S anyway. I mean Siri is cool, the camera is quite good.

But the Iphone 4 is just as good, if not better as the battery life is more usable.
 
I can work with the current screen size but if they're gonna change it up they better make it wider too.

Isn't the readability one of the most important thing on a smartphone? To give the iP5 a design upgrade without thinking about that just doesn't makes sense.
 
I cant believe I just read this entire thread. I made the move to Android a year ago. I'm glad I did especially after seeing this, if this is the actual "new" design. I got a little bored of the phone and ios. Just needed a change. Im not going to give any reasons why I prefer Android now. Dont think it matters because they are MY reasons and what I want. To each their own. Many of you make some great points on the whole Android/iphone thing. But it all comes down to opinion and preference.
This is just MY opinion..flame if ya feel the need.
 
gadget123 said:
Because people bought the Iphone 4S anyway. I mean Siri is cool, the camera is quite good.

But the Iphone 4 is just as good, if not better as the battery life is more usable.
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So any other words its a dud in no one but your opinion?
Also, they upgrade all the internals of the phone with the exception being the amount of RAM (I think).
If they put the same phone internals in a shiny new case their would have been no complaining.

And for the record I don't notice a difference in battery life compared to iPhone.
 
I really can't understand, why people wanna have a much larger screen and complete new front panel. Even when you have a bigger screen, it is not much fun enjoying movies and Meanwhile it won't fit well in your pocket. That's why android sucks. There are so many different screen sizes out there, that no app can really feel nativ on any device. That's why I love apple. There is one size for iPhone and iPod touches and one size for iPads. So everything feels native on that devices. First time, I saw that large screen, I was very confused to add a new screen size, but I hope they use it for ads and notifications. I think, the notification center does a great job but in most cases, it disables buttons, when it flips down. Same about ads. They use so much space, so you can't enjoy that content. so it might be great, if they still support 3.5" app and use that more space in the way, I explained it.
 
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