Class Action Lawsuit against AT&T

[TheConfuzed1]

You, know I've been thinking about this all night, and I've come to a conclusion...

The nav system in my Honda doesn't support MMS either! Let's sue them too!

Oh, and GE, because my microwave doesn't include it!

Clearly, I'm entitled to have this on all of my electronic devices...

 

[Tenorsaw]

I am curious to know how many of you would be interested in pursuing a lawsuit against AT&T for not having mms on the iphone.

I see it this way. Jailbreaking is not illegal. Swirly mms or other mms programs are legal to have. AT&T claims that on our unlimited messageing plan we get mms, but when you use it they somehow disable it. I am sure a lot of you are aware of what they are doing.(heck, mms on the iphone works everywhere in the world exept at&t) ... I figure if we file a class action suit they will have to either A. enable mms for the iphone, or B. give us a discount and form a new plan for the iphone that is unlimited sms only and pay us back for services not delivered.

Any thoughts on this? anyone in here a lawyer that might have some advice or be willing to take this on?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the iPhone doesn't do MMS with the other carriers as well. Unless you're saying that at&t had Apple strip out certain features. If so, how would that be beneficial to at&t? They do generate revenue from MMS.

 

[cWeems]

at&t has nothing, i repeat, NOTHING, to do with the fact that Apple's iPhone doesnt support picture messaging. get over it.

and yes, the $30 family text plan includes unlimted text, picture, video, and instant messaging if your phone supports it.... so if the phone YOU got doesnt shoot video, u gonna sue them because video messaging isnt included? or if your phone doenst have IM, would u sue at&t because YOU got a phone that doesnt have IM?

nice.

 

[Tallest Skil]

Remember the lady that sued because she bought a cup of coffee that burned her legs when it spilled while she was driving? She won because the cup didn't state "caution, content is hot". She knew what she was buying when she bought it! She knew it would be hot! But she won anyway!

You may, or may not have a case. Only way to find out is by you contacting a lawyer with knowledge on these type of cases. Just because we may think you don't have a case doesn't mean you can't. I never thought that woman would win her case -- and she did.

Heck, if you do sue and win we will all thank you for it!

This is a contract he has entered. You don't sign a contract when you buy filth from McMeaty's. The contract does not stipulate that he will get MMS service. Therefore, he cannot sue.

Also, it's not even AT&T's issue. This is like suing Newegg for selling a faulty Seagate 1.5TB HDD.

Aside: Seagate really screwed up this time. I can't get my 1.5 to work at ALL. Disk Utility recognizes it, but I only get I/O errors...

 

[bassproguy07]

good luck OP, this thread is pointless

 

[rtztgue]

I'll be good money that when the contract says MMS, it includes a footnote that says "on compatible devices". My Rogers contract certainly has that disclaimer. Your carrier can't be held responsible for you selecting a handset that does not support a feature. That would be like buying a basic handset and a 3G data plan, and then complaining that they're ripping you off because you don't get 3G on your handset.


This is the first intelligent response in this forum. When I started this thread I thought (incorrectly) that most people knew about the iphone capabilities. I did some research and the in-office people and at&t phone support know nothing about these phone discaimers, they keep trying to get the iphone to work with their plan, and they claim the plan does support mms. But if you look long enough on the website you will find their list of phones. there are about 40 or so. So that is how at&t gets around it. I just found this.

As for the other idiotic statements about microwave and cars and such.... YES!!! the Iphone can do mms. it is called Swirlymms. www.swirlyspace.com it does work on other networks such as in the UK or Germany etc.... You can get it to work with at&t for up to 24 hours until the network Pings your phone and determines it is an iphone and then AT&T shuts the service off.(this is a deliberate act) you can activate this through the AT&T media net site. When I bought the phone I knew I could use swirlymms, I knew AT&t had an mms plan, The office staff and phone support assured (even to this day) that mms should work. What was not told or made clear was that at&t would purposely shut the service down for iphones.

So basically at&t says..

MEdia Max Unlimited (Text & Web)
Unlimited everything! MEdia(TM) Net. Cellular Video. Plus four messaging options: Text, picture, video, and Instant Messaging.

What they dont tell you is that if you have a phone that can do it, and they dont want that, then they will shut that service off.


other than that, lets shut this thread down. there are other work arounds to get mms to work with at&t. Usually you have to find an at&t tech that will trick their system into ignoring your iphone. And those people are out there.(but they personally charge for it, and it is probably illegal) It would just have been nice to put pressure on at&t to make them stop shutting the service down and to explain why they do it.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

if I had to guy why they are shutting down Swirlymms is how it works. It forces the MMS to leave ATT system and go though a 3rd part servers. ATT does not want that to happen and it starts seeing MMS go though that system it flags the account and then blocks it at the next update.

It yet again goes back to the Apple fan boys need to get over themselves and blame Apple for the block but OMG apple is never wrong.....

 

[Tenorsaw]

if I had to guy why they are shutting down Swirlymms is how it works. It forces the MMS to leave ATT system and go though a 3rd part servers. ATT does not want that to happen and it starts seeing MMS go though that system it flags the account and then blocks it at the next update.

It yet again goes back to the Apple fan boys need to get over themselves and blame Apple for the block but OMG apple is never wrong.....

Everyone knows that it is the iPhone that doesn't have MMS. I wouldn't expect at&t to sell service for a device that doesn't have it out of the box. We all know about Swirly, but the thing is that you have to Jailbreak the phone to get it. Do you really see the average consumer doing that? Even if they could, it's still not approved.

By the way, what's with you guys and the word 'fanboy'? It's time to broaden your vocabulary.

 

[plumbingandtech]

I am curious to know how many of you would be interested in pursuing a lawsuit against AT&T for not having mms on the iphone.

Good grief.

I am saddened for you.

A lawsuit.

Over MMS.

 

[NeoMayhem]

??

Yes. ATT will disable MMS on your account if you use it with an iPhone plan. They do this because they know you jailbroke your phone and want to piss you off.

You can return the favor by switching to the $15 medianet plan and using MMS all you want on your iphone. Plus, you will save money every month. You do lose visual voicemail though.

This works great on a 2g iPhone, but I have heard it is a lot harder to remove the iPhone data plan on a 3g since the contract gives them the right to add it back. So unless you got the iphone 3g on ebay it is hard to get away with it.

 

[nickspohn]

BTW. The at&t contract and in office personnel specifically state that we get MMS.

Please either take a picture of this, link us to where we can find this, or screenshot it.

+1. Do this. Give it up afterwards, but do it anyway. You won't find it.

We are still waiting.

 

[Tokiopop]

Just ring AT&T or O2 (whatever it is), and say you use your SIM in another phone on the weekends, and could they please activate MMS on your SIM. They should activate it. But unless you jailbreak, you'll have no means of sending/receiving MMS.

 

[NeoMayhem]

Just ring AT&T or O2 (whatever it is), and say you use your SIM in another phone on the weekends, and could they please activate MMS on your SIM. They should activate it. But unless you jailbreak, you'll have no means of sending/receiving MMS.

That will work, but once you use it a few times they disable it automatically from what I understand.

 

[bobfitz14]

This is a piece of America right here.

It took me an extra few seconds to post this because this site slowed down. Let's sue Arn. My iPhone doesn't get a constant 5 bars of 3G signal, let's sue AT&T. I dropped my iPhone and the screen shattered. Let me sue Apple because they made a screen out of glass.

While I'm at it, why doesn't Arn sue you for wasting 17KB of space on the servers.

agreed. this will never go through.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

Everyone knows that it is the iPhone that doesn't have MMS. I wouldn't expect at&t to sell service for a device that doesn't have it out of the box. We all know about Swirly, but the thing is that you have to Jailbreak the phone to get it. Do you really see the average consumer doing that? Even if they could, it's still not approved.

By the way, what's with you guys and the word 'fanboy'? It's time to broaden your vocabulary.

yeah then why attack ATT for the iPhone not having MMS. it always states for MMS compatible phones only. Yet still attack ATT....

Please take a look at this tread title and put it under examples of why Apple fans are not respects and though of at idiots.

 

[TheConfuzed1]

...Please take a look at this tread title and put it under examples of why Apple fans are not respects and though of at idiots.

I know there is a meaning in there somwhere... I just can't seem to find it.

 

[Interstella5555]

I am curious to know how many of you would be interested in pursuing a lawsuit against AT&T for not having mms on the iphone.

I see it this way. Jailbreaking is not illegal. Swirly mms or other mms programs are legal to have. AT&T claims that on our unlimited messageing plan we get mms, but when you use it they somehow disable it. I am sure a lot of you are aware of what they are doing.(heck, mms on the iphone works everywhere in the world exept at&t) ... I figure if we file a class action suit they will have to either A. enable mms for the iphone, or B. give us a discount and form a new plan for the iphone that is unlimited sms only and pay us back for services not delivered.

Any thoughts on this? anyone in here a lawyer that might have some advice or be willing to take this on?

Yeah, right after I sue the hundreds of other phone manufactures for not supporting MMS, or not having Copy & Paste. And people wonder why I worry for the future....

 

[bobsentell]

Good Luck....

ATT is a multi-billion dollar corporation with an expensive legal department. You had to sign a End User Agreement that tells you what the iPhone plan provides. Unless there is price gauging or the iPhone is blowing up, you have no case.

 

[lilsteviebaumer]

What a bunch of sarcastic children

I can't believe how ridiculous you all are being. Lawsuits are horrible, wah! Stop.

Unfortunately, This is how things get fixed. Especially with apple in recent past. Think back to how many times Apple denied hardware defects in laptops only to have a class action suit brought against them and then suddenly they admit there was a problem and remedy it.

The reason there is no MMS is because apple wants it thst way. Whether it is because they are waiting to get it "perfect" before implementing it or, more likely, they believe it is old technology that nobody wants anymore do they won't bother putting it in there. (think iMovie '08 and the serious lack of DVD support. Well, you can still burn your movies to DVD "for those people who still even use DVDs")

The thing I find unacceptable is the virtually unuseable workaround that AT&T has implemented in place of MMS. I am used to not having full MMS support from my old Treo. But when someone sent me a picture or video message, I got a notification via SMS with a weblink straight to the file. This is all I want from AT&T! The system they have in place now is practically unuseable.

Save the fanboy defenses. Unless. Have a pen andpaper on hand to write down the unique set of codes each message is assigned I can't see my message.

Easy fix, two parter:

AT&T: make the link you send my iPhone go right to the media in safari. No passwords, embed that all in the link. Talk to Sprint if you can't figure this out.

Apple: let me send a picture to a mobile phone # through the native mail app. Just make it an option and program the iPhone to do it. If you do it through email protocols, all the better.

As far as sueing, sue AT&T for creating an interface for receiving picture mail that any court of law will confirm is useless. They should just have a message sent to your iPhone telling you someone tried to picture message you, but you are unable to view it. Or here's another idea, why not just rerout it to your email?

 

[ravenvii]

I read the first few sentences of the first post, and thought "are you ****ing serious?"

Seriously, get a grip people. You can't sue a company for not offering a feature. You switch to another company or phone!

Jeez. What the hell would you ask for in damages, anyway? I don't even think you even have standing!

 

[Eso]

Why Are People So Stupid.

yeah then why attack ATT for the iPhone not having MMS. it always states for MMS compatible phones only. Yet still attack ATT....

Please refer to:

I also have another phone for mms, but guess what at&t does when you switch the sim from your iphone to another phone so you can send an mms? It gets lockdowned and that phone wont send mms either.

Why can't anyone seem to be bothered enough to read anything before they voice their opinions about it anymore? In case you one of the many who stupidly posted about the iPhone functionality after this post, let me spell it out for you (also please delete your forum account immediately). Don't make me call you out by name.

He pays for the unlimited texting plan which includes MMS messages. He has an iPhone. He removes the SIM card from his iPhone and places it in an MMS capable phone. He sends MMS messages (for a limited time). AT&T locks the SIM and he can no longer send MMS messages from the MMS capable phone.

What can't you morons understand about this? He clearly has a valid argument. I would recommend talking to an AT&T representative while your MMS phone is locked out from sending MMS messages and figuring out a solution.