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You're very welcome. You may find traces of it still remain. The most effective method for complete app removal is manual deletion:
I've had it free up major space sometimes and haven't run into any problems.
Do you think it's not worth it for even this reason? I am curious about MainMenu Pro as well?
What do you think?
Read post #25 and #22, as well as the rest of this thread. I highly recommend to anyone that they uninstall it.
No, don't use it! While the thread I quoted started in 2009, the most recent problem reported was July, 2011. There are also many other recent reports of problems with this app, in this forum and elsewhere.Use it. Great app. No problems. Although I hear it was problematic in 2009
Since your first two posts in the forum are to endorse this app, I question your credibility. My motivation is to offer sound advice for Mac users with problems, whereas your motivation appears to be solely to promote an app, since you haven't offered anyone help on any other issues.
Oh right, so I've got to help people before I can put forth an opinion? Funny stuff.
My 2 posts are more aimed at the laughable slating of a product with the sole evidence being a two year old thread. Sure, there may be more threads out there, but you and others take great pride in showing how poor this product is by linking to said old thread.
That thread was also made irrelevant within said thread because a support rep announced it had been patched in a forthcoming release (which happened over 2 years ago).
I applaud the help you give to people in this forum, but, if you have such strong views on subjects, you're going to get people that will throw the other side of the argument in to the debate, especially when you base your hatred on such flaky evidence.
That thread is not the sole evidence, and I clearly state that it is an example. Also, that thread started in 2009 but there are posts through Aug, 2011.
That thread is quite relevant, as it also contains a detailed discussion about the ineffectiveness of other features of the app. It really helps if you read the entire thread, not just a few posts.
I have no "hatred" of any app. I don't get emotional about software. Either it performs well and does the job, or it doesn't. The evidence about this app indicates it isn't to be trusted. With free alternatives that don't have such a spotty reputation, spending money on this app just doesn't make sense.
And since you wanted more recent evidence, this is a very small sampling of reports about CleanMyMac:
From MacUpdate.com:
Relate, but hardly go in to any detail.
I dismiss things like "its too aggressive" or bland reasonings that don't explain the issues they've had and also anything that has been superceded by a number of updates, hence my reference to so few in the last 6 months. So far, user error is all I've seen.
Again with the accusations. I like a product, doesn't mean I'm shilling. I like Final Cut Pro and Logic Studio, can someone give me that for free, I'm shilling again.
So I take it we pick and choose when to be touchy on these forums?
Ah, but he was agreeing with you, hence the skipping over that post.
I don't dismiss the fact that someone had a problem, simply because of the level of detail they provide in a post.
I don't dismiss them, as they're not required to provide some minimum level of detail or explanation to prove that they had a problem.
I didn't accuse. I said "your post sounds like....", which it does. Also, a person can be a shill without receiving compensation.
I don't respond to every single post in a thread, nor am I obligated to. I don't approve of calling anyone an idiot, regardless of what their views are.Ah, but he was agreeing with you, hence the skipping over that post.
Enough of this pointless bickering. If you want to continue to use the app, do so. I will continue to warn users that doing so may cause problems. It's up to each user to decide for themselves.
You joined this forum this month. GGJstudios joined 4 years ago. I joined 9.5 years ago. I am in complete agreement with GGJstudios and in complete disagreement with you. I don't know how long either GGJstudios or you have been Mac users, but I have been a Mac user since 1989--23 years. My work and my life are literally on my Macs. As such, I do everything that I can to ensure that my Mac is working properly. When System 6 through MacOS 9 ruled the day, I had no qualms about purchasing reputable maintenance software. With MacOS X, however, maintenance software is not necessary--at least, you do not need to purchase it. Symantec dropped its MacOS X maintenance software because it is not necessary. As GGJstudios correctly stated, MacOS X takes care of itself. In the unlikely event that non-routine maintenance is needed, the most effective software is the built-in File System Check command line utility run in Single User Mode. The freeware Onyx once every year or two assures you that your caches have no obsolete data. However, I don't run Onyx unless I have a problem that I suspect that it can fix. The last time I ran Onyx had been more than two years after the time before that.
The most effective routine maintenance measure that a user can take is not to do anything stupid. Even Onyx, which has a stellar reputation within the Mac community, is a GUI on top of standard UNIX maintenance tasks. Claims by developers that their utilities perform necessary maintenance can be dismissed as lies. There are two or three exceptions:
- TechTools Pro--Its sibling TechTools Deluxe is included with AppleCare.
- Disk Warrior--The most effective data recovery tool this side of a professional recovery service.
- Data Rescue--Professional file recovery-level file recovery utility.
Claims by users that routine maintenance tools are effective can be attributed to the "Placebo Effect." Insistence that routine maintenance tools are effective on MacOS X raises the suspicion that the claimant is shilling for the utility.
I've been lurking for 10years, does that get me a cookie?
Complete disagreement with me about what? That I said a program was good or not? Opinions are like aholes. Everyones got one and they all stink.
As I've already stated.
Depends what you class as necessary.
Shilling?
Cleanmymac comes with a free trial, which I used, liked what it did (time saver) over a period of a few weeks, so supported the developer and purchased said product. I could, if I wanted to, do everything that it does manually, but I'd rather waste my time doing something less productive (like lurk forums for over a decade) and leave a piece of software do it for me for a small one off fee, which in my opinion, is worth every penny.
Its not a 100% necessary program, but its a damn good time saver. [/shill]
You've been lurking for 10 years and just now register to jump in this discussion, when this topic has been beaten to death in countless threads over the years? If you feel so strongly about this, where were you when the 2009 thread was new? I'm not buying it!
... whereas other apps with better reputations are simply free. Period.
You don't even need to do what it does manually, as nothing it does is required or recommended. Mac OS X can maintain itself quite well without 3rd party software of any kind. The only thing it can do is clear some disk space, which has zero effect on performance, and it doesn't even do that as well as other methods. It is inefficient at complete app removal, not as trusted as other apps for other tasks, costs money and has the potential of creating problems for some users.
Apps like this appeal to people switching from Windows, who are used to having to run maintenance apps and utilities to keep some Windows systems running efficiently. While there may be a place for some such apps in the Windows world, they're useless in Mac OS X, and certainly not worth wasting money on.
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I worked on *NIX systems even way back on Multics and *NIX is very good at taking care of itself. Apps like CleanMyMac try to automate things that are better not automated.
Since I used the term, I feel that it is important that you understand what I mean by necessary. In the context that I was using the term, necessary is that which is required to recover data loss or to allow the computer to operate.
Serious bunch around here, lol
It was purely my way of showing how irrelevant (and laughable) your tenure on a forum is when it comes to discussing a topic. But, you guys seem to dig it, which is all good.
Now gimme my god damn cookie.
I like the fact that it removes stuff that is not needed. About 20GB of crap so far, which I wouldn't have wasted my time looking for. So thats 20GB for more porn *ahem* I mean for documents and photos etc.
Its automated me some free space that I wouldn't have been bothered to look for. If space was at a premium, which it is, then its worth it. Oh and I'm not dumb enough to remove something that is needed.
As already stated, its recovered a sizeable amount of space for me, which, while not an ultra important issue, is an issue that I would normally have to spend time on, instead of a couple of quick clicks.
In closing, its a great product. Can't speak highly enough about it.
The problem that many users experience is that it removes stuff that is needed. If you are smart enough to prevent this, then you are also smart enough to locate unnecessary files and remove them without CleanMyMac's help. This means that CleanMyMac is an unnecessary investment in time and money.
A bit of advice: You have run into an impenetrable wall of experience and knowledge on this subject. For a change of pace, why don't you advocate your favorite antivirus utility for MacOS X?
I myself have tried this and didn't really notice any difference. I have just the free version. Once in a while when I download something it will say that its "cleaning" the download before installing but its rare.
Meanwhile , has anybody tired "iboostup" its in the mac app store. Just wondering if anybody has tired or had success with this?
Thanks
Meanwhile , has anybody tired "iboostup" its in the mac app store. Just wondering if anybody has tired or had success with this?
Thanks
I have used Cleanmymac twice once in 2009 and 2011. Both times it has caused me nothing but trouble because it cleaned out binaries and language files which caused some apps of mine not to function.
Also GGJStudios has so far been only helpful so far and provided unbiased statements while you seem to be the only one defending a product that has been causing trouble for more people than for people who had no trouble---interesting heh?
I'm gonna be good to you now and give you a maths and economics lesson in one go.
Time = Money
Cleanmymac removes crap I'd have to search for.
Searching for stuff to remove = Time = -Money
Cleanmymac = Click button = Time Saved = +Money
Problem here is that one of my previous posts was flagged as trolling. Some sensitive people on here haha. Anyway, in that post, I did state that I'm a lazy b*****d, so if something can do stuff for me I'm all for it.
Some advice in return, I'm a stubborn and obnoxious prick, so don't get too wound up with some of my responses. You're nearly at 10yrs where you must get a golden icon or something
OOH! I know, Golden cookie, OH YES!
Oh and for Antivirus, you'd have to have all of them running, just to be safe
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I think you've glossed over this and looked at the shiny 3yr and 9.5yr badges my opposition have donned on their chest.
I said I liked it and its not caused me any problems, to which I got jumped on, and me being me, I responded and got some people's backs up. Yours included. Even got me some warnings for trolling, go me!
If my post was taken as it should have been, an opinion on a product, all good, but apparently stating a product is good is frowned upon unless people agree with that. Didn't realise this was the MacDictatorship forum
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