cMBP refresh?

[danyull]

Hello all, I'm new here and this is my first post.
I know that there has probably been hundreds if not thousands of threads whether or not the cMBP will be refreshed at WWDC tomorrow.

What are your opinions and hopes?

I really hope apple refreshes the cMBP's at least one more time before phasing it out. Do you really think after 1 generation of rMBP's that they would discontinue the cMBP's? I just think that there is a bit of a price range between the air and rMBP that they need to continue the cMBP's unless they reduce the price of their rMBP's.

 

[WWDC2013]

Sorry, I think tomorrow will mark the end of the entire cMBP line-up. It's already too obsolete for 2013.

 

[danyull]

Sorry, I think tomorrow will mark the end of the entire cMBP line-up. It's already too obsolete for 2013.

If true, I really hope they decrease the price of their rMBP line and make a 500gb HD and 8gb RAM a standard.

 

[B...]

If true, I really hope they decrease the price of their rMBP line and make a 500gb HD and 8gb RAM a standard.

8GB RAM is standard.

 

[KUguardgrl13]

Doubt the 500 gb hd. They use SSD, and that's just way too expensive.

 

[danyull]

Doubt the 500 gb hd. They use SSD, and that's just way too expensive.

True, but don't you think 250 gb is too small?

 

[KUguardgrl13]

True, but don't you think 250 gb is too small?

My MBP from 2009 came with a 160 gb. 250 is big in my book

 

[Premium1]

Sorry, I think tomorrow will mark the end of the entire cMBP line-up. It's already too obsolete for 2013.

It is more than enough for majority of people not to mention the ability to upgrade the ram/hd without too much effort make them a good option for most people and fill in that price range below the rMBP

 

[Lunfai]

It is more than enough for majority of people not to mention the ability to upgrade the ram/hd without too much effort make them a good option for most people and fill in that price range below the rMBP

Apple wants to move away from people opening their own machines, just think about the money they could make with upgrades like Ram/SDD that are dirt cheap DIY jobs when compared to their prices?

This is one of the reason why they want to move away from them, more profit.

 

[Spartanator]

cMBP 13 with the 2.8GHz i7. I'd hardly call that obsolete and considering I got it for $1199, it was worth it. I'm more of a casual user these days, so the rMBP wasn't worth the price difference.

 

[stephen85]

Sorry, I think tomorrow will mark the end of the entire cMBP line-up. It's already too obsolete for 2013.

Hardly.

My soon to be delivered 2.6 Quad i7 / 16GB / 750GB Hybrid HDD will last a good 5 years in my opinion especially with the ability to add a second SSD in the superdrive bay near the end of it's life to give it more grunt.

The rMBP is fast because of it's SSD "as standard" over the cMBP, put a SSD in a cMBP and you have the self same machine. Granted you have form factor but it's hardly a fat machine considering the computational power you're getting.

 

[Premium1]

Hardly.

My soon to be delivered 2.6 Quad i7 / 16GB / 750GB Hybrid HDD will last a good 5 years in my opinion especially with the ability to add a second SSD in the superdrive bay near the end of it's life to give it more grunt.

The rMBP is fast because of it's SSD "as standard" over the cMBP, put a SSD in a cMBP and you have the self same machine. Granted you have form factor but it's hardly a fat machine considering the computational power you're getting.

Agree the cMBP is no slouch and will easily last people years still. To cut it off I think would be crazy for apple unless they drop the last gen rMBP price to match what the cMBP was

 

[Rhinoevans]

I bought the 2012 cMBP last year. Upgraded to 16G Ram for very little cost, didnt need the retina display and still dont. Planned on upgrading to SSD, but prices have yet to drop enough to warrent a 500G SSD. Put a SSD in my Sony VAIO this year (256 Samsung 830), and although nice on boot up, dont really see any other real added benefit, except less storage! I can wait an extra 10 sec. With all that said, I am OK with a rMBP that I cant open NOW. Seemed necessary last year, but probably not as big a deal as I thought. Will Pass on Haswell, my Ivy Bridge still awesome, and will hope to add a SSD if prices drop, but overall VERY happy with my cMBP.

Starting to think that the time to upgrade to an SSD is when I NEED one, not when I WANT one!

 

[stephen85]

I bought the 2012 cMBP last year. Upgraded to 16G Ram for very little cost, didnt need the retina display and still dont. Planned on upgrading to SSD, but prices have yet to drop enough to warrent a 500G SSD. Put a SSD in my Sony VAIO this year (256 Samsung 830), and although nice on boot up, dont really see any other real added benefit, except less storage! I can wait an extra 10 sec. With all that said, I am OK with a rMBP that I cant open NOW. Seemed necessary last year, but probably not as big a deal as I thought. Will Pass on Haswell, my Ivy Bridge still awesome, and will hope to add a SSD if prices drop, but overall VERY happy with my cMBP.

Starting to think that the time to upgrade to an SSD is when I NEED one, not when I WANT one!

Storage is a biggie for me also and if the rMBP came with 500GB as standard then i could live with an extra HHD to plug in when the time comes but SSD cost are too high even if they are the storage of the future. I think apple pulled the trigger of the SSD too soon as a cost to the pro user.

 

[theriddler]

I hope there will be one more refresh before Back to School. Will they upgrade the screen resolution to 1440 at least?

The Haswell Air's specs fit my needs but I want the ethernet port and Kensington locks without using adapters. cMBP's also upgradable and I could even replace the DVD drive with SSD or BluRay.

 

[PDFierro]

I hope there will be one more refresh before Back to School. Will they upgrade the screen resolution to 1440 at least?

The Haswell Air's specs fit my needs but I want the ethernet port and Kensington locks without using adapters. cMBP's also upgradable and I could even replace the DVD drive with SSD or BluRay.

I think the cMBP is done. Apple will just let it sit there before discontinuing it completely.

 

[CristobalHuet]

Realllllly stupid question but I can't seem to wrap my head around "cMBP". Can someone enlighten me?

EDIT: Classic. All good.

 

[Count Blah]

Unless prices of the rMBP drop, unlikely with the new SSD and any dGPU that is > 5000, then I don't see how the cMBP goes bye-bye quite yet.

The only reason would be that Apple thinks that the air or a stripped down 13" can take the place the the 13" and 15" cMBP. That would be VERY faulty logic, but it would not shock me.

 

[someguy50]

Unless prices of the rMBP drop, unlikely with the new SSD and any dGPU that is > 5000, then I don't see how the cMBP goes bye-bye quite yet.

The only reason would be that Apple thinks that the air or a stripped down 13" can take the place the the 13" and 15" cMBP. That would be VERY faulty logic, but it would not shock me.

Honestly, the only thing missing is a 128GB 15" rMBP (or a price drop of the 256). Maybe they'll drop them $100, just like the Air. Apple likes simplicity, they wont have 3 lines of notebooks for long. I know they're both called MBP, but it's still different.

$999 11" Air
$1099 13" Air
$1199 11" Air w/ 256GB
$1299 13" Air w/ 256GB
$1499 13" rMBP
$1699 13" rMBP w/ 256GB
***$1899 15 rMBP (128GB)- Future product price point?***
$2199 15" rMBP
$2799 15" rMBP w/ 512GB

 

[danyull]

Update: I went ahead and bought myself a 13" cMBP last night. Talked to the store manager and he said that there probably won't be another refresh but they'll continue selling the Ivy Bridge model for a little longer. Also he stated that usually they hear about BTS promotions about a month in advance but he said he hasn't heard of anything yet and said there is a chance Apple might not even do one this year.

 

[Mr MM]

Unless prices of the rMBP drop, unlikely with the new SSD and any dGPU that is > 5000, then I don't see how the cMBP goes bye-bye quite yet.

The only reason would be that Apple thinks that the air or a stripped down 13" can take the place the the 13" and 15" cMBP. That would be VERY faulty logic, but it would not shock me.

honestly given that they bought a much costlier cpu for the air while dropping the price and putting a new pcie ssd, that is what I think is a faulty logic

 

[someguy50]

Congrats! Wonderful device. Easily upgradable, and, well, classic.

 

[theriddler]

The end of user upgradeability? No more "revive an aging MacBook with an SSD/more RAM and it's as good as new."

What are they doing with the remaining iPod Touch stock now that a cheaper 5th gen is out? Kill two birds with one stone - Back to School limited to cMBP and throw in an iPod Touch 4th gen.

someguy50, when you list it out that way, there's no slots in the price points for cMBPs. :|

ETA: This is interesting:

On May 18, 2010, Apple quietly upgraded the MacBook with a faster processor, 10-hour battery, and the same video circuitry as the 13" MacBook Pro. The Rev. J MacBook's Mini DisplayPort supports both audio and video output, like then-current MacBook Pro and iMac models. The price remained the same.

cMBP is heading in the same direction as the MacBook.

 

[someguy50]

Yep, I really do think it's on the way out, sadly. I went ahead and bought a 13" cMBP two weeks ago, I love these things too much.

I love the Retina too, but I'm really going to miss the flexibility of upgrading, optical drive, RJ45, etc the next time around

 

[dragonjinse]

Thats bad!! I hope apple won't get rid of the BTS! Im waiting for it. If I haven't heard anything update for BTS by Wed, im going to buy cMBP 15" on Thursday! Can't wait any longer

Update: I went ahead and bought myself a 13" cMBP last night. Talked to the store manager and he said that there probably won't be another refresh but they'll continue selling the Ivy Bridge model for a little longer. Also he stated that usually they hear about BTS promotions about a month in advance but he said he hasn't heard of anything yet and said there is a chance Apple might not even do one this year.