cMBP refresh?

[Livewings]

Hello all, I'm new here and this is my first post.
I know that there has probably been hundreds if not thousands of threads whether or not the cMBP will be refreshed at WWDC tomorrow.

What are your opinions and hopes?

I really hope apple refreshes the cMBP's at least one more time before phasing it out. Do you really think after 1 generation of rMBP's that they would discontinue the cMBP's? I just think that there is a bit of a price range between the air and rMBP that they need to continue the cMBP's unless they reduce the price of their rMBP's.

It will simply not happen. cMBPs are on the phase to extinction.

One, it's fat.
Two, it has 8x slower storage.
Three, it has an inferior screen.
Four, it has an optical drive (negative)

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

One, it's fat.

No, it is sturdy and no Ultrabook. Thank god!

Two, it has 8x slower storage.

OS X caches data in RAM. The average read-speed, which i tested with my own software is ≈ 250 MByte/s from RAM caches, and ≈ 50 MByte/s from a Western Digital 1 TB 2.5" HDD inside a Early-2011 17" MBP. The test file had a size of 128 MByte. Or you can test it on your own Mac: Restart your Mac, open a “big” application like Xcode, iTunes or Photoshop, close the application and open the application again. Result: The second application launch is much faster. 500 MByte/s or 800 MByte/s SSDs are not always necessary.

Three, it has an inferior screen.

I doubt that you need a retina display for all tasks. See the MBA.

Four, it has an optical drive (negative)

*lol*

OS X Mavericks has Blu-ray Disc (BD) support. And you read your Audio CDs how!?

 

[joepunk]

It will simply not happen. cMBPs are on the phase to extinction.

I have to agree that they are on their way out, but they are still able to get things done.

One, it's fat. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder but for me that little bit if size difference between the two models doesn't scream fat to me
Two, it has 8x slower storage. But are still easily upgradable by the user
Three, it has an inferior screen. Depends on what you need. Though I can't argue because I haven't used a Retina in any meaningful capacity
Four, it has an optical drive (negative) Again depends on if you need/want that or if you don't need/want it then you can replace it with an extra hard drive. Again user upgradable, though I agree with many others when they say that it isn't necessary especially when there any many good external ones available

 

[ValSalva]

No, it is sturdy and no Ultrabook. Thank god!


OS X caches data in RAM. The average read-speed, which i tested with my own software is ≈ 250 MByte/s from RAM caches, and ≈ 50 MByte/s from a Western Digital 1 TB 2.5" HDD inside a Early-2011 17" MBP. The test file had a size of 128 MByte. Or you can test it on your own Mac: Restart your Mac, open a “big” application like Xcode, iTunes or Photoshop, close the application and open the application again. Result: The second application launch is much faster. 500 MByte/s or 800 MByte/s SSDs are not always necessary.


I doubt that you need a retina display for all tasks. See the MBA.


*lol*

OS X Mavericks has Blu-ray Disc (BD) support. And you read your Audio CDs how!?

All true. The cMBP's are still great machines. But that doesn't mean they are not on their way out or that they will get updated to Haswell. Why didn't they get the IB processor updates the rMBP's got in February? That was not a good sign.

 

[sofianito]

Although Apple won't reveal its sales numbers grouped by models, it seems that people who are voting with their money for retina are the majority...
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Or maybe Apple is playing poker and bluffed the whole world by not updating the cMBPs specs early this year...

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

All true. The cMBP's are still great machines. But that doesn't mean they are not on their way out or that they will get updated to Haswell.

Hope dies last.

Why didn't they get the IB processor updates the rMBP's got in February? That was not a good sign.

Good question, ValSalva!

...10 minutes later...

Alright, you win.

 

[Rhinoevans]

Sorry, I think tomorrow will mark the end of the entire cMBP line-up. It's already too obsolete for 2013.

Guess your were wrong!

 

[RollTide1017]

Coming from the Windows world, I find statements like "the cMBP is old and outdated" utterly ridiculous. Maybe in a strictly Mac world they are a little outdated but in a general PC sense, they still beat out most consumer laptops being sold.

My wife and I are looking at making the switch from Windows early next year. Our desktop is 8 years old and on its last leg. I started out looking at iMacs because it was a desktop but, the mobility of the MBP is really attractive, especially since we have an ATV and when Mavericks is released it can be used as a second monitor. We'd use the MBP as a desktop when it is in our room with an external monitor, mouse and keyboard but also be able to take it other places because, of course, it's a laptop. Best of both worlds IMO.

For our needs, storage space is the number one concern. Our current desktop has 1.5TB of space. I don't want to have to carry around an external drive and I don't want to spend more money on top of a rMBP to set up a NAS. A Mac is already pushing our budget to the limit. I'm willing to sacrifice screen resolution and fancy SSDs for more storage per dollar and user upgradeability. I'm not going to buy a new PC every few years so we need to get at least a good 5 or 6 years out of this purchase. Being able to upgrade the ram, add a bigger or second HDD or even add a SSD when prices drop outweighs the need for a retina screen, at least for our needs.

The cMBP may not be as advanced as the rMBP but, that doesn't mean they are outdated, not by a long shot. Like I said, they can still run circles around most anything sitting in a Best Buy right now.