EJBasile said:
Exactly. I just received the new Mighty Mouse at work. One guy looked in the box and said, "Apple? I didn't know they still made computers."
Of course, that guy is quite annoying and I hope his PC (Dell) is just as annoying.
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CNN says Windows Vista looks like...uh...Mac OS X
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Exactly. I just received the new Mighty Mouse at work. One guy looked in the box and said, "Apple? I didn't know they still made computers."
Of course, that guy is quite annoying and I hope his PC (Dell) is just as annoying.
Jay42 said:
While you have a point...I think this "upgrade" is going to be like Windows ME vs Windows 98SE. Aside from the different security setup and nifty live folders there isn't anything concrete in the release, so far, that would give me any reason to upgrade, particularly in the business. Home users will upgrade just to have the latest or greatest or because they bought their XP machine when XP came out, it's due for replacement anyway. Businesses are more likely to stick with what they know. Some shops are JUST getting around to putting XP into action!
Microsoft is going to have a difficult time selling Vista for multiple reasons: it lacks real compelling reasons to upgrade, there is an increasing anti-MS attitude among the common non-power user user base and Apple is getting increased media attention. I'm a long time PC guy and while it's been said before, I really think Apple is poised to take a large portion of market share from MS in the home market.
I've always disagreed with mac "zealots" when they said Mac was going to take when OS X came out but with Apple switching to x86 they're going to do much better as long as they play it right. I have no problem with them requiring me to buy an Apple rig so long as I can get peripherals from my local computer store. That switch, combined with the success of the iPod and iTMS (both of which get media attention leading to more attention to their computer line), will bring in more developers and so on...
deputy_doofy said:One guy looked in the box and said, "Apple? I didn't know they still made computers."
Of course, that guy is quite annoying and I hope his PC (Dell) is just as annoying.
That kind of thing happens to me all the time at school. The iPod generation... so ignorant...
This has never happened to me in six years of using a mac as my primary computer. Everyone I have ever met knows all about apple and their stuff, everyone I know who doesn't have a mac doesn't have one for monetary reasons.the-fish said:
the-fish said:
How about: Apples Mac marketing department... non existant....
If kids don't know about it, then someone in marketing needs to be fired unless they were making a point not to be noticed by the youth, in which case they still need to be shot for stupidity.
I'm honestly a little bummed that Vista isn't really innovating the OS market. I'd be nice if they came up with some new stuff that Apple could steal (and improve upon) for a change. Also, I know the feasiblity of the core-duo macs running windows has been discussed ad nauseum, but if we assume they figure out how to get it to boot, given vista's hardware requirements, how well would it run on the new iMacs and MacBook Pros? Any answer would be hypothetical specualtion, but I'm curious as to what you guys think.
GFLPraxis said:
Well I was just thinking that there'd be people who are knowledgable about Vista/Windows in general viewing this thread that may have experience running the Vista beta on some PC hardware. I was wondering how that hardware compares to what is offered in the new Intel macs. Logic being that if Vista runs well on comprable PC harware, it would stand to reason that the new Intel Macs would be able to run it well too (assuming someone figures out how to make it happen). I wasn't trying to kill the thread.
The comment is intended i think for the-fish, who brought up a thread from last August...
GorillaPaws said:
If everyone got the change to test a Mac vs. a PC the Mac would be the choice to go. So if I think if everyone knew about Mac OS X, Windows would be a think of the past. I still don't get why people think you can't send an email from a Mac to a Windows user or Mac user can't open word files. I think we should make a website that spreads the word of Mac OS X and Apple just like the Mozilla Foundation premoted firefox with spreadfirefox.com
macosxuser01 said:
No they wouldn't - the vast majority would pick the Windows PC because they know of nothing else and anything different feels "wrong" to them. The vast majority of PC purchasing people will never stop buying Windows until it eventually collapses under it's own weight (it will, everything eventually fails it just won't fail for a very long time). I think Apple needs to start doing some very professional, slick advertisements that show a Mac in action - those "switcher" ads and stuff are memorable but they still make the Mac look like a kooky sideshow to the Windows circus.
Apple's market share is rising yes, but it won't overtake Windows purely for the fact that most people are comfortable with how Windows works and what they need to do to keep it working and you know what? That's fine by me.
What Apple needs to do is to keep building it's market share up (15% - 20%) would be ideal and position itself as a serious option to the Windows juggernaut. By doing this both companies are forced to innovate - really innovate - to extol their virtues to the increasingly computer literate (but not computer savvy, they know what they need to do to get rid of a virus but they don't know that there exists a virus-free option) public. Apple needs to start showing that it is a serious and ready for business option, not just some company who makes computers for designers and iPods. Once people see that the Mac is capable of doing absolutely anything they need to do (and with a 15% market share, most companies will be building Mac versions of their software - they'd be mad not to) the Mac will become a more popular option and will force Windows to start making an OS that works as well and looks as good whilst the PC makers will really need to hone their industrial design.
That's my opinion, like it, don't like it, I don't care.
I once proposed, in another forum, that Apple try what Dell does...putting small stand-alone kiosks in upscale malls. I always see people wandering over to try the Dells. Be nice to see people stopping to "ooh" and "aah" at the iMacs, Mac minis and such.macosxuser01 said:
It was my contention that 95% of the people you see walking around malls buy computers but would probably never enter an Apple store on their own. So...bring the computer to them.
I got slammed pretty bad for that thought -- one guy said that such an idea was "beneath" Apple, and to tell you the truth, Steve Jobs probably agrees -- but I'd still like to see what kind of reaction it would get from walk-up customers.
gwuMACaddict said:sounds like the same old windows tricks to me... make it look pretty, people think it's an upgrade...
then the lemmings parade will start...
