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CoD4 Are people using cheats/hacks?

People seem to think that if someone playing a FPS game is good, they are either:

1. Hacking
2. Play the game 24/7 and have no life
3. Talented

People like to side with the top 2 because it makes them feel less embarassed that they are not as good as they think they are, so them being owned by a hacker or a geek is no biggy. It's easy to call someone a hacker or a geek, but its tough to admit you just aren't as good. Just face it... There will always be people who are legitamately better than you at a game, and no it doesn't mean they are hacking or they play it like their life depended on it, they are just good. I'm not saying there are absolutely no hackers and geeks, there will always be those people who fit in those demographics... but there are also a lot of talented people too.

It all depends on how you are able to learn and adapt to the gameplay.
 
waiwai said:
People seem to think that if someone playing a FPS game is good, they are either:

1. Hacking
2. Play the game 24/7 and have no life
3. Talented

People like to side with the top 2 because it makes them feel less embarassed that they are not as good as they think they are, so them being owned by a hacker or a geek is no biggy. It's easy to call someone a hacker or a geek, but its tough to admit you just aren't as good. Just face it... There will always be people who are legitamately better than you at a game, and no it doesn't mean they are hacking or they play it like their life depended on it, they are just good. I'm not saying there are absolutely no hackers and geeks, there will always be those people who fit in those demographics... but there are also a lot of talented people too.

It all depends on how you are able to learn and adapt to the gameplay.
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Exactly, I play Halo 3 whenever I'm bored, and I get around 1/4 - 1/2 of all kills in the game, that doesn't mean to say I play it all the time, I've just been playing it for several years, on and off. Over time you just pick little things up you didn't notice before, that some people know about, but some people don't, hence why some people can seem incredibly good compared to others, just takes time, or online tip sheets :p
 
When you are "hidden" even from radar...the way EYE see you is just to stand there and keep looking.

You move a single pixel, I know someone is there, and I fire.

Works everytime.
 
There are hacks for COD4.

One hack lets you kill people on your team. (you will notice if its happens) usually, once a stage starts( first 2 seconds)..you look and see 3-4 people just got killed with a bomb...you hear no guns..and you know the two teams aren't in sight yet of each other. If you are able to catch the name of the person who got the points from the kill...keep an eye on it...throughout the rest of the round you will notice they only kill via bombs. This person then changes from team to team throughout the round that way one team doesn't win real quick.
 
waiwai said:
People seem to think that if someone playing a FPS game is good, they are either:

1. Hacking
2. Play the game 24/7 and have no life
3. Talented

People like to side with the top 2 because it makes them feel less embarassed that they are not as good as they think they are, so them being owned by a hacker or a geek is no biggy. It's easy to call someone a hacker or a geek, but its tough to admit you just aren't as good. Just face it... There will always be people who are legitamately better than you at a game, and no it doesn't mean they are hacking or they play it like their life depended on it, they are just good. I'm not saying there are absolutely no hackers and geeks, there will always be those people who fit in those demographics... but there are also a lot of talented people too.

It all depends on how you are able to learn and adapt to the gameplay.
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I think you may be jumping to conclusions here, I wasn't whining because I'm not a "pro" gamer. I've played enough to know a few things and have seen things that don't add up is all. Did you watch those YouTube clips I provided. Those cleared a few things up for me. I think its a bit rare but it happens. The people with no life imo are gamers using hacks & cheats.

iOrlando said:
There are hacks for COD4.

One hack lets you kill people on your team. (you will notice if its happens) usually, once a stage starts( first 2 seconds)..you look and see 3-4 people just got killed with a bomb...you hear no guns..and you know the two teams aren't in sight yet of each other. If you are able to catch the name of the person who got the points from the kill...keep an eye on it...throughout the rest of the round you will notice they only kill via bombs. This person then changes from team to team throughout the round that way one team doesn't win real quick.
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That might explain why when we were starting out at the very beginning of the game last night one of my teammates just fell to the ground dead...it was like he was knifed...or perhaps he left after the game had already begun.
 
MowingDevil said:
Now granted I'm rather new to the game...but I swear to God man some guys seem to be running some kind of hack....where they always know where you are even if its through walls, floors etc Watching the "replay" of what happened sometimes there's no way they could have seen you there....I've also seen other players get grenades thrown at them BEFORE they came into view. Maybe some guys are just pathetically good (you know, don't have any life except for playing) or else there's some kind of cheat going on that I don't know about. Just sayin.'
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I've hardly run into cheaters on COD4 online, as long as you play on punkbuster servers. in fact, i'd say part of COD4s community are a bunch of babies anyway, every other server has martyrdom/grenade launcher banned because players can't handle them.

are you a big time gamer? maybe you're just not as used to playing games and are just being owned by better players. i'm absolutely not trying to insult you saying that either, please don't feel that way. i've just seen non-gamer friends say the same thing to me before.
 
asphyxiafeeling said:
I've hardly run into cheaters on COD4 online, as long as you play on punkbuster servers. in fact, i'd say part of COD4s community are a bunch of babies anyway, every other server has martyrdom/grenade launcher banned because players can't handle them.

are you a big time gamer? maybe you're just not as used to playing games and are just being owned by better players. i'm absolutely not trying to insult you saying that either, please don't feel that way. i've just seen non-gamer friends say the same thing to me before.
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I'm no hard-core gamer...don't have the time nor want to....however, I'm decent at a few games and do play recreationally and sometimes on a regular basis. I know enough abo games to know the difference between someone who is the man and someone who's possibly in the hack territory. I don't mind at all getting owned if a guy really is that good. Fair enough.

How do you know if you're on a punkbuster server?
I've seen the babies in one server who kicked any player who used last stand/martyrdom/grenade launcher. Yep, cry babies.
 
what class do you guys use?

I'm loving:
Silenced M4 Carbine (invisible on radar)
Golden Desert Eagle and Last Stand
3x frag
Deep Impact

I wouldnt call myself a pro, but i'm usually in the top 5 for my team on a server with 50 players.


p.s. I hate martyrdom!
 
Sdashiki said:
When you are "hidden" even from radar...the way EYE see you is just to stand there and keep looking.

You move a single pixel, I know someone is there, and I fire.

Works everytime.
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Could be a leaf. Do you shoot a lot of leaves? ;)
 
PC Gamers play with PC Gamers, Ps3 Gamers play with PS3 Gamers, 360 Gamers play with 360 Gamers.
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Hiya everybody. I'm new to this forum.

Anyway, I assume that MattZani includes Mac Gamers in the category of "PC Gamers," but for those who don't know the COD4 1.7 patch lets Mac users play cross platform with PC users.

Yeah, we had a hacker ("matty") on a hardcore server I was playing on a couple of evenings ago. And PB wasn't even kicking him!

A question: sometimes when I shoot somebody in COD4 at point blank range, right square in his torso, and he doesn't get killed; then he shoots a millisecond later, and I'm dead. Why is that? Is it because the other guy has a faster computer?
 
Titus Pullo said:
Hiya everybody. I'm new to this forum.

Anyway, I assume that MattZani includes Mac Gamers in the category of "PC Gamers," but for those who don't know the COD4 1.7 patch lets Mac users play cross platform with PC users.

Yeah, we had a hacker ("matty") on a hardcore server I was playing on a couple of evenings ago. And PB wasn't even kicking him!

A question: sometimes when I shoot somebody in COD4 at point blank range, right square in his torso, and he doesn't get killed; then he shoots a millisecond later, and I'm dead. Why is that? Is it because the other guy has a faster computer?
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Lag?
 
I have the Mac version of the game and I jumped right to level 55 the other night. I was at 42 or so. Try it out. If you want to know how I did it, you'll have to email me or something.

If you have AIM, you can IM me and I'll let you in on the secret.

By the way...I've seen so many people using Aim Bots on COD4... they're really annoying. The great thing is, if you watch the Kill Cam, you can see that there's no way a human can aim and shoot that quickly and kill every time.

Here's my favorite setup:

I slaughter with this gun

M4 Carbine with Red Dot Laser
Perk 1: Bandoiler
Perk 2: Stopping Power (don't use any gun without this perk)
Perk 3: Dead Silence

I also enjoy the G36 with Stopping Power and Dead Silence... it seems to kill quickly.
 
Wanna know another cool trick?

During the game, open the console (press the ~ key) and type this:

Code: 
cg_fov 85

This will give you a much wider range of view so you can see your enemies better.
 
Titus Pullo said:
Hiya everybody. I'm new to this forum.

Yeah, we had a hacker ("matty") on a hardcore server I was playing on a couple of evenings ago. And PB wasn't even kicking him!

A question: sometimes when I shoot somebody in COD4 at point blank range, right square in his torso, and he doesn't get killed; then he shoots a millisecond later, and I'm dead. Why is that? Is it because the other guy has a faster computer?
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PB won't catch everyone doing stuff, cheats get updated and it takes PB time to respond with its own update. Even then it won't catch every thing.

If you shoot somebody, but they still kill you it could be for any number of reasons. Did they have juggernaut on? which weapon did you use? Were you playing hardcore or regular? All that could affect the outcome.

Yes a faster computer helps, but a faster computer won't do much if you have a lousy connection to the server you are playing on or a slow internet connection in general. If your connection is a bit slower than your opponents what you see on your screen might be a second or two behind what your opponent is seeing. You see yourself shooting him, but he may be seeing himself kill you. If the killcam option is on you will usually see the discrepancy between what you thought you did and how it actually played out.
Clear?:D

Say hi to Vorenus for us Pullo.;)
 
You're absolutely right, fblack, PB won't catch all the cheats and hacks, at least not immediately.

I try to spectate when I suspect that there are cheaters on the server, but that option is not always enabled on the server, and it doesn't always let you watch every player even when it is on.

I play hardcore servers, but my fire-lag problem happens regardless of the perks my opponent has. It doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be frustrating.

However, I think I've managed to solve my fire-lag problem (not just by improving my skill). First, I changed config settings through the console in order to improve my fps. Next, by doing some research on internet I discovered that the response rate of one's display can be an important factor in one's ability to respond in FPS games. Based on the tech info out there, it seems that the response time of the monitor of my MacBook Pro (Intel Core 2 processor, 2.2 GHz, NVidia 8600 GT with 128 MB...) is a shocking 25 ms!!! That absolutely sucks for FPS gaming. So, after some more research, and a careful consideration of what amount of money I was willing to shell out for my occasional "hobby," I decided to buy an external monitor, but a CRT monitor. Yesterday, for hardly anything, I bought a iiyama CRT 1451 19" external monitor. After I had figured out the best settings, COD4 looked absolutely stunning, even at a lower res than what I was playing it on my laptop. On the external, I have the res. set at 1280 x 960 @ 90Hz.

I am convinced that this monitor (which has a response time that is almost negligible, as compared to 2ms for more expensive LCD displays), combined with the console reconfigurations I made, has helped solve the shooting-lag problem I was experiencing. Now, when I shoot first (and aim square on), I kill first. In yesterday evening's gaming I was consistently in the bottom top third of my team (TDM), and I even won a couple of rounds of Killhouse Free-for-All.

To tie it back to the topic of this thread, I've spectated players who I thought were cheating (because they were always killing me even when I thought I pulled the trigger first), and I saw that they were simply spectacular players. However, hardware and game settings also have a big role to play in enabling you to develop your skill without these kinds of frustrations. Now that my hardware is more or less sorted out, I can concentrate on improving my skills as an occasional player, without being put off by these little irritations.
 
Titus Pullo said:
You're absolutely right, fblack, PB won't catch all the cheats and hacks, at least not immediately.

Based on the tech info out there, it seems that the response time of the monitor of my MacBook Pro (Intel Core 2 processor, 2.2 GHz, NVidia 8600 GT with 128 MB...) is a shocking 25 ms!!!
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Wow 25ms really?! :eek: That is very, very slow. I'm surprised you didn't get any ghosting on the screen or tearing even. That's good intel thanks for letting us know about it. I wonder if that response time has improved with the latest Macbook-pro models? Probably not, my understanding is that the better quality panels for color reproduction are slower. Hmmm...interesting.
 
fblack said:
Wow 25ms really?! :eek: That is very, very slow. I'm surprised you didn't get any ghosting on the screen or tearing even. That's good intel thanks for letting us know about it. I wonder if that response time has improved with the latest Macbook-pro models? Probably not, my understanding is that the better quality panels for color reproduction are slower. Hmmm...interesting.
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What's the response time of a 20" Apple Cinema Display? Edit: 16ms... I just looked it up.
 
It's important to understand how much some people play games such as COD4, back in the day I was horribly addicted to computer games and although I can now control it better I still have played over 72 hours of COD4 in a few short months. This being said, many people are insanely good but some people may actually be cheating. Say something in public chat or to your team and see what their opinions of the player in question are, more heads = better opinions.
 
re. FPS cheaters

One of the moves that often still leaves me gob smacked is the "round-the-corner jump, shoot, and kill." The part that always either impresses me or gives me a feeling of deep suspicion is when someone jumps out of nowhere and is able to shoot and kill me with deadly accuracy, using just one shot.

I'm not denying that, with a lot of practice, such a move can't be manually perfected. I recently bought a Belkin n52te speedpad, which in my opinion is superior to using the keyboard because, amongst other things, it makes such moves easier to execute. However, while I can certainly jump around corners now and so surprise my opponent and then take him off balance by dodging rapidly into his flank, I do need to fire at least two times before I hit him. However, I've come up against some guys who can't possibly know I'm hiding behind the barrel around that corner, but nevertheless they jump and shoot--and I'm dead right away, sometimes from a head shot. Again, I'm not denying that practice can make perfect, but I'm suspecting that at least some of those players are using an aimbot. Don't you think?
 
One thing I miss in COD that was in MoH, was the ability to spectate and move around the map.

In COD, you're stuck in one location and if you're trying to watch and learn, or maybe follow a squad about the map, then once they're out of your immediate view, youre stuck. Pity that, it was a good tactic in MoH
 
Supersonic said:
One thing I miss in COD that was in MoH, was the ability to spectate and move around the map.

In COD, you're stuck in one location and if you're trying to watch and learn, or maybe follow a squad about the map, then once they're out of your immediate view, youre stuck. Pity that, it was a good tactic in MoH
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Umm no. In spectator mode, you can use w, s, a, and d to move around and q, and e to move up and down. I know that this works because I do it all the time.
 
TheSpaz said:
Umm no. In spectator mode, you can use w, s, a, and d to move around and q, and e to move up and down. I know that this works because I do it all the time.
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Interesting....that definatley doesnt work for me....I did think it was an odd thing to remove from the game but never mind...

Strange-o-rama....
 
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