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yellow said:
You know, I think another thing that should be taken into account is one's proximity to bottling plants, and what one becomes used to drinking. On my last foray to the UK, Coke tasted just plain WEIRD. As in, NOT RIGHT. But in the town I live in, we have both a Coke and Pepsi bottling facility. So my softdrinks are always "fresh", so I might be spoiled.

I've noticed a similar thing when I've been in Canada - Sprite in Canada does not taste the same as Sprite in the US. And I don't live near a bottling plant. I think they muck with the formulas a bit for the various markets, to better match the local palette. I seem to remember seeing a TV show where they talked about it; it wasn't a big secret or anything, but it wasn't widely known either.
 
2jaded2care said:
Oops, sorry iMeowbot, didn't mean to prove your point. ;)
No, no problem with the fun part of it. I'm just tired of seeing things like this written off as frivolous because they don't address one or two pet causes out of the limitless interesting, useful, and yes, even fun things there are to do in this world.
 
"The research is also the latest in the field of so-called "neuromarketing", which digs deep into consumers' minds in an attempt to work out what they like and why they like it."

that's pretty creepy.

I like a nice cold Coke from the fountain with my Chipotle burrito. I get it for free because I am a student.

But this goes farther than just Coke and Pepsi...

Ford and VW
Nike and Puma
Sony and Apple

you already have a feeling associated with each company in your head, before you even look at the product.

-cody
 
krimson said:
coke uses corn syrup (im sure pepsi does as well), which really isn't the same as sugar. If you drank original coke (made with sugar) and the new "classic" coke, you'd taste the difference.

Corn syrup a.k.a high fructos corn syrup is a type of monosaccharide.

As you can see from the definition, a monosaccharide is a type of simple sugar.

so.... cory syrup=sugar

If you look at the nutrition facts on the back of a food product, somewhere it will list the ingredients. Usually the ingredients listed first are more abundant in the product.

Right now I'm looking at the back of a can of Coca-Cola C2 (the low sugar version) and HFCS is the second ingredient listed. Carbonated water being the first.

And I'm sorry I don't know the original coke and "classic" coke, I never drink the stuff.
 
musicpyrite said:
Corn syrup a.k.a high fructos corn syrup is a type of monosaccharide.

As you can see from the definition, a monosaccharide is a type of simple sugar.

so.... cory syrup=sugar

If you look at the nutrition facts on the back of a food product, somewhere it will list the ingredients. Usually the ingredients listed first are more abundant in the product.

Right now I'm looking at the back of a can of Coca-Cola C2 (the low sugar version) and HFCS is the second ingredient listed. Carbonated water being the first.

And I'm sorry I don't know the original coke and "classic" coke, I never drink the stuff.

my point was in taste, not chemical makeup ;)
 
codycartoon said:
"The research is also the latest in the field of so-called "neuromarketing", which digs deep into consumers' minds in an attempt to work out what they like and why they like it."

that's pretty creepy...

Exactly.

And you just thought you liked using a Mac because it was a better computer? :)

The bit I didn't like was the bit about the major movie studios -- there's enough formulaic pap out there already...
 
krimson said:
my point was in taste, not chemical makeup ;)

Oh..... OK....

Maby somebody else learned something.....

I still wouldn't be able to tell you the difference between the two because I haven't tried either in several years....
 
musicpyrite said:
I still wouldn't be able to tell you the difference between the two because I haven't tried either in several years....

I'd say "Original Coke" is about as easy to find as "New Coke". I've not had an original coke since the New Coke debacle (or genius marketing move).
 
yellow said:
Must... drink.. Coca-Cola... Must.. drink... Coca-Cola...
Pepsi.. tastes... like.. crap...
The Olde Sugar-based Coca-Cola tastes much better than this corn syrup/lowest current bid sweetner crap we get these days.

Of course it's all about squeezing the best profit out for the shareholder, instead of delivering quality to the consumers. :(

Of course I wasn't in it for the sugar taste so I used to like the less overt taste of sugar in Coke.
 
MongoTheGeek said:
I like adding 3 tablespoons of milk to a a cup and a half of coke and watching the milk pull a lot of the coke stuff out of the coke.

Whats a cup and a half? Is it a recognised size in the states? I can taste the difference between Coke and Pepsi, I rather Coke, but if one is much cheaper than the other thats the one I'll buy. I really like Vanilla Coke, that stuff is so much nicer than the Cherry flavour!

I don't think we have Coke C2 here, Coca Cola has become less adventurous lately since the offical bomb of Dasani. No one bought it as it cost as much as Evian, Volvic etc, and then everyone found out it was actually slightly purified tap water, then worse still, it broke the laws on levels of bromate content and had to be pulled from sale across the whole country! Here's some more about it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3809539.stm and http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0304-04.htm)
 
cheekyspanky said:
Whats a cup and a half? Is it a recognised size in the states? I can taste the difference between Coke and Pepsi, I rather Coke, but if one is much cheaper than the other thats the one I'll buy. I really like Vanilla Coke, that stuff is so much nicer than the Cherry flavour!

I don't think we have Coke C2 here, Coca Cola has become less adventurous lately since the offical bomb of Dasani. No one bought it as it cost as much as Evian, Volvic etc, and then everyone found out it was actually slightly purified tap water, then worse still, it broke the laws on levels of bromate content and had to be pulled from sale across the whole country! Here's some more about it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3809539.stm and http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0304-04.htm)

Wasn't Perrier found to be plain, filtered, French tap water?

The packaged Cherry Coke is not like the soda fountain Cherry Cokes I remember. They didn't have so much carbonation, perhaps because they used cherry juice and that diluted it. There is a lot of difference between Coke and Pepsi. Pepsi is sweeter and Coke is more bitter and will dissolve teeth in eight hours.
 
Sun Baked said:
The Olde Sugar-based Coca-Cola tastes much better than this corn syrup/lowest current bid sweetner crap we get these days.

Of course it's all about squeezing the best profit out for the shareholder, instead of delivering quality to the consumers. :(

Actually, it's because back when they made the switch to corn syrup "ordinary" cane sugar was getting real expensive. No one is going to pay $3 for a can of Coke. They were actually really concerned that the switch was going to make it taste different and did a bunch of studies (both Coke and Pepsi), but discovered nobody could tell the difference. Obviously, if you have a product which people buy solely on taste, you don't want to change it and make it taste like crap so people don't buy it anymore. Which makes me wonder: do you actually have a bunch of "Old" Coke stockpiled that you've compared to the new stuff, or are you just making this up? Not to mention that half of the sweetener in Coke was corn syrup by 1980... you'd have to have a pretty old stockpile - I can't imagine anything that old tasting all that good.
 
Mr. Anderson said:
Given the trend here - showing that marketing and science can work hand in hand, makes you wonder if there will be a bit of growth in the R&D departments in all the major companies..... kind of scary, actually.

D

Why do more R&D when apparently, the only thing that matters is the brand?
 
EminenceGrise said:
Which makes me wonder: do you actually have a bunch of "Old" Coke stockpiled that you've compared to the new stuff, or are you just making this up? Not to mention that half of the sweetener in Coke was corn syrup by 1980... you'd have to have a pretty old stockpile - I can't imagine anything that old tasting all that good.
So you must be one of the people that think the cane sugar Coca Cola in the bottle tastes like crap.

Personally, I think it tastes better -- but haven't been drinking sugar colas during the past decade. So I don't feel the need to drive across the border to get it.

Of course this place is also down the street if I don't want to drive as far as Mexican border.

http://www.popsoda.com/info.html
 
OMGH, Where's Snapple??? Its funny how the best stuff on earth isnt even mentioned. Anyways, I agree its all in thier head, My step mother has been drinking pepsi all her life, and i switched it out with coke and she never knew, but you put it in her face, totally different situation. And yes, she really hated me for that stunt.
 
EminenceGrise said:
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Which makes me wonder: do you actually have a bunch of "Old" Coke stockpiled that you've compared to the new stuff, or are you just making this up? Not to mention that half of the sweetener in Coke was corn syrup by 1980... you'd have to have a pretty old stockpile - I can't imagine anything that old tasting all that good.

If you live in an area with a sizeable jewish population, coca-cola makes a special run of Kosher Coke every year around passover. Im lucky enough to live near a large population, so i stock up every year.

Dont have to drive to mexico, although, Sun Baked, try the mexican mercado's, they usually have some in the glass bottles. The lady running the lunch truck that serves our building has mexican glass bottle cokes, but I haven't been adventurous enough to get one.
 
cheekyspanky said:
Whats a cup and a half? Is it a recognised size in the states? I can taste the difference between Coke and Pepsi, I rather Coke, but if one is much cheaper than the other thats the one I'll buy. I really like Vanilla Coke, that stuff is so much nicer than the Cherry flavour!

I don't think we have Coke C2 here, Coca Cola has become less adventurous lately since the offical bomb of Dasani. No one bought it as it cost as much as Evian, Volvic etc, and then everyone found out it was actually slightly purified tap water, then worse still, it broke the laws on levels of bromate content and had to be pulled from sale across the whole country! Here's some more about it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3809539.stm and http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0304-04.htm)

Has the "low-carb" insanity hit the UK yet? ;)
 
the corn syrup thing is intresting...

here on coca cola bottles etc. there is still listed 'sugar' but on the next occasion i'll check it out again

boy i wish cherry-coke and all that other different things would be available here..from time to time they are testing out 'Fantas' with new flavours but that's it (vanilla coke , and coca cola light with lemon is available since last year )

from what i heard the mixture of coa cola is sweeter in the US is that correct ?
perhaps this explains the dominance from coca-cola over pepsi over here... my guess is that pepsi is too sweet for market here...
 
krimson said:
I eat Wendy's Biggie fries dipped in the Biggie Shake all the time.. it's sooo yummy!
and im not pregnant either ;)

My wife and I call 'em frostyfries. We've done that since we were kids. I think everyone does! Wendy's unofficial spokesman should make a commercial.
 
Frostyfries! that's great and so much easier than saying Fries dipped in Shake. Im gonna have to borrow that term :)
most people i've met have never tried it, and are usually disgusted at the thought, until they try it.

kinda like pepper/ketchup and fries
 
jimsowden said:
Cherry anything in my opinion.

I like to have cheery Coke or Pepsi occasionally. Enjoy the different taste. Still nothing better than getting fresh from the fountain, using the syrup.

It would seem that the research into reaction to a movie. Will be much more of a groundbreaking and important research. They will just have to decide on the cost versus saving ratio.
 
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