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All iPads Combined - Apple is killing iPad. New Models are Underwhelming

Leonard1818 said:
what I don't understand is carrying along the iPad 2. I mean, I do understand it from a business perspective... they want to sell MORE iPad Air models so they'll make the alternative an antequated piece of <hardware> to force you to buy the newest and spend the money.

I wonder if this is going to become a trend. Iphone 6 release they'll announce they're stringing along the iPhone 4s or something and killing off the 5, 5s, and 5c. What they'd probably do is iPhone 6 and 5c and THAT'S IT. We will see....

interesting move by Apple none-the-less
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Kill the second hand market and keep selling new devices.
 
incredibly underwhelming!!!

No A7X
No Fingerprint Sensor
No new display technology (igzo)
The only differentiating factor between Air and rMini is now the display (Air might have more screen real estate but rMini comes with superior PPI)

Enough said.
 
Don't be so sure, I will be getting the Air, it's only 1lb and thinner. Once people hold the Air they will buy it over the mini, if the mini was a lot cheaper then yeah people would jump on the mini Retina.

Actually I still see people buying the first gen mini for $299
 
Same specs?

I'd wait for a teardown. Wouldn't surprise me if the Air has more ram and a higher clock speed.
 
It looks like the product cycle is getting doubled in lifespan. Maybe we've hit the manufacturing ceiling?
 
Don't forget the Camera, still 5mp.

I was looking forward to an 8mp on the mini.

Lets just say it wasn't overwhelming;)
 
prism said:
No A7X
No Fingerprint Sensor
No new display technology (igzo)
The only differentiating factor between Air and rMini is now the display (Air might have more screen real estate but rMini comes with superior PPI)

Enough said.
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A7X and IGZO clearly weren't required to deliver the Air. Think people are forgetting the A5X and A6X were products of necessity as there was simply no way with that generation of GPU to deliver a retina display at anything approaching acceptable performance levels and battery life. IGZO (somehow) wasn't needed to delivery battery life and size so why move from what already works?

Fingerprint sensor would have been nice but it's easy to see why they didn't do it if there are indeed supply problems. Plus it's not as essential on an iPad as it tends to be on the iPhone, different typical user profile after all.

How on earth is the only thing between the Mini and the Air being the screen a *BAD* thing? Good god some people are never satisfied. Now it doesn't matter what you buy, you get the same fantastic hardware (and let's not forget that A7 is a monster and I suspect it may be clocked a bit faster in the iPad's) and can just focus on the form factor that's right for you.

Frankly Apple have delivered a really nice set of products that have very few obvious compromises. Was it predictable? Yeah, of course it is, you're on a rumour site and the tech itself was well known in advance. However go back about a month to before the iPhone launch for a moment. Okay, the next iPad will be almost as thin as a mini, knock almost a third off the weight and have a 64 bit processor with double the CPU and GPU performance from the iPad 4. Doesn't sound quite so bad does it?
 
koolmagicguy said:
iPad "Air" and iPad mini now have the same exact specs save only for size. And the Mini is $100 less.

Seriously, who wouldn't go for the cheaper of the two? Besides, the pixel density will be higher on the Mini meaning it will look even better than the iPad Air.

Sorry, but now that both devices have the same specs, who would be interested in the larger iPad Air?
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I suppose you have the smallest possible HDTV because its cheaper (with otherwise the same specs) and has higher pixel density?
 
smiddlehurst said:
A7X and IGZO clearly weren't required to deliver the Air. Think people are forgetting the A5X and A6X were products of necessity as there was simply no way with that generation of GPU to deliver a retina display at anything approaching acceptable performance levels and battery life. IGZO (somehow) wasn't needed to delivery battery life and size so why move from what already works?

Fingerprint sensor would have been nice but it's easy to see why they didn't do it if there are indeed supply problems. Plus it's not as essential on an iPad as it tends to be on the iPhone, different typical user profile after all.

How on earth is the only thing between the Mini and the Air being the screen a *BAD* thing? Good god some people are never satisfied. Now it doesn't matter what you buy, you get the same fantastic hardware (and let's not forget that A7 is a monster and I suspect it may be clocked a bit faster in the iPad's) and can just focus on the form factor that's right for you.

Frankly Apple have delivered a really nice set of products that have very few obvious compromises. Was it predictable? Yeah, of course it is, you're on a rumour site and the tech itself was well known in advance. However go back about a month to before the iPhone launch for a moment. Okay, the next iPad will be almost as thin as a mini, knock almost a third off the weight and have a 64 bit processor with double the CPU and GPU performance from the iPad 4. Doesn't sound quite so bad does it?
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You dont get it do you? The next air will have an A7X or A8, fingerprint sensor and IGZO, it is pretty obvious that marketing played a huge role in the decision making process of this iteration.

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Blackened said:
iPad Air has M7 co-processor and probably twice the RAM as mini retina
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Mini also has the M7 and frankly, there is no reason for the RAM to be any different between the two given that everything else is identical.
 
everyone is different. all cars serve the same purpose. bring us to point a to point b and yet we see different kinds of cars. small cars, big cars, medium cars.
 
Some people want a bigger screen and don't really mind that the ppi is marginally less. My 84 year old grandmother is getting this to replace her 6-year old Dell.
 
lamerica80 said:
Kill the second hand market and keep selling new devices.
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Well, in the short-term it's going to boost the 2nd hand market... I have a 32GB wifi-only iPad 3 right now. I believe I paid like $599 for it... If someone wants to buy a 32GB wifi-only iPad, they HAVE to buy a new iPad Air or buy my used one (since they're only offering the iPad 2 in 16GB new).

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pdawg said:
Did I miss something, or is the largest possible iPad Air only 16 G? Why would I go from 64 G to 16 G?
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The iPad 2 is only available in 16GB
 
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