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wouldn't that only happen if ComCast disbanded 21st Century Fox and rolled it into Comcast or another property?

hypothetically if they purchased 21st Century Fox and it became "21st Century Fox a division of Comcast" since the entity that had the rights still exists, they wouldn't revert back?


It’s still technically an accusation. Disney will most likely up the bid because the bigger get is the full distribution rights to Star Wars (1977) which Fox owns outright for all time. There’s also Avatar Land. The Marvel rights will eventually revert after a certain period of time has passed. It’s not worth buying to obtain rights with an expiration date.

If you want to make it so Disney has to pay royalties every time they want to release Star Wars..
 
Worse, here are a few examples:
  • Tech support hold times are over an hour
  • One month your bill will be $50, then the next it will increase to $150 with absolutely no notice and since they (at least in our area at the time) required AutoPay, you had not idea it was going to happen until they took the money (I wish I was making that one up)
    • You call to complain about this and they disconnect the call every time saying they "lost your call" and it is another hour or so to get a hold of anyone.
  • They implemented data caps.throttling on what were sold as "unlimited plans" with little to no notice
  • Refusing to cancel service when you cancel it
  • Giving priority bandwidth to their own services and to services that pay them extra money
The list goes on and on, seriously they are pure evil, do not let them anywhere near anything in your country, have protests, write your government, whatever it takes to keep them out.
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I would love to join that ISP
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They might still, no one has ever said that FOX is even interested in an all cash offer. An offer with Disney stocks would most likely prove more profitable in the long run than an all cash offer, especially since Disney would be getting all the Marvel properties back in their wheelhouse, it will ultimately mean Disney stocks will skyrocket.

FOX may entertain the idea for a bit, but I don't think they would seriously consider a deal with Comcast for the reasons I mentioned and I don't thing regulators would allow this one to go through because it would be way too many studios under the Comcast umbrella. Yes, Disney has a few, but Comcast has more.

WOW they sound repulsive and they are trying to buy SKY which is also truly repulsive. To me, they are all true scum and in reality, let's all just move on with our lives and simply don't think or worry about these fat cats. It's all business at the end of the day - it's capitalism at its most gross. You have a choice in life - either buy into it and get sucked in or be the captain of your soul, use your intelligence and vote with your wallet or not! These companies have only grown this huge because humans are such greedy, materialistic things at times.

It's simple in reality. Don't support them. If you hate their non ethics, non passion, non integrity, non empathy then don't buy into their services, products. Less is more for everything in life!
 
As DSLReports points out, Comcast’s overall customer satisfaction scores are still hot garbage. The company, fresh off an abysmal 54/100 rating in 2015 for its TV product, improved to 62/100 in 2016. That’s a significant jump, but remains well behind the 65/100 average, and companies like Verizon (70/100), AT&T (69/100), and DirecTV (68/100) are still mopping the floor with Comcast.

What’s perhaps most telling about Comcast’s public satisfaction score is that it’s actually worse than the scores the IRS received for its e-filing, small business, and self-employed programs. Yes, the notoriously frustrating and confusing process of filing federal taxes is actually less hated than Comcast’s TV service. You probably won’t be seeing that in a Comcast press release any time soon.

I’d be curious how many here don’t have a choice in cable ISPs. I live in a small town of 4500 and we have the choice between 2 cable ISPs plus a DSL provider. The competition is healthy. We have deals all the time to get people to switch and rewards like $75 off a bill if you can refer someone to their service. If the bill starts creeping up you can almost always get a discount if you just tell them you’ll switch because they know you can and will. It’s still a bit spendy, but I can’t imagine what prices would be like with a monopoly in a region.
 
“Superior”

$1 cash isn’t worth as much as $1 of Disney stock. Not on any planet, not with how that stock performs.
 
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Think of the most vile person you’ve ever had the displeasure of knowing. Then multiply that by infinity.

You will then have Comcast.
You are being way too kind, I really don't think words can sum up how evil they really are.
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Can’t Fox just say, nah we’ll take the other deal?
Yes they can and Fox has been very quiet about if they would even entertain such a deal as Comcast is proposing. Ultimately though the shareholders could force a vote on it if they feel that Fox isn't working in their best interests, but I seriously don't think a cash offer would be a better deal than what Disney is offering, especially not if looking long term.
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“Superior”

$1 cash isn’t worth as much as $1 of Disney stock. Not on any planet, not with how that stock performs.
Exactly, $1 of Disney stock will probably be worth $10 in 5 years if they succeed in buying Fox.
 
I’d be curious how many here don’t have a choice in cable ISPs. I live in a small town of 4500 and we have the choice between 2 cable ISPs plus a DSL provider. The competition is healthy.
I have to laugh at this when I'm in a town of 20000 (admittedly larger than yours) and have a choice between 22 ISPs with fibre and who-knows-how-many with DSL. Seeing a range of three described as "healthy" is amusing.
 
I hate Comcast so much... I really hope Disney gets this deal finalized. They need to get all the marvel properties under one roof.

Between the two companies I think Disney is in a better position to make the most of all those fox properties.
 
I'm really glad this is happening. A lot of people aren't thinking about how terrible it's going to be if Disney gets Fox. They're blinded by Comcast hate.
 
I'm really glad this is happening. A lot of people aren't thinking about how terrible it's going to be if Disney gets Fox. They're blinded by Comcast hate.
Honestly, I don't know why people hate Comcast so much. I have had their internet service for the past few years. I also just upgraded my TV plan to include all the channels and have Xfinity Home as my security system and finally got a DVR a few months ago.

I used to have DirecTV but my trees in my backyard blocked out my signal several years ago so I switched to Comcast.

I haven't really done any reading on this Fox deal but I doubt it would affect me much at all anyways.
 
Overall Disney isn't evil, they really are just trying to make money, which is not evil, Comcast on the other hand tries to screw over the customer every chance they get, that is indeed evil.

Comcast is pretty bad, but Disney are the ones who keep pushing for copyright term extensions, lest their precious Mickey Mouse become public domain.
 

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37 posts and not one hint of "where's Apple?" Why can't Apple put it's exclusive content aspirations + hoard of cash to use and buy Fox itself? Then Apple would own a chunk of Star Wars, some pretty desirable pieces of Marvel and a huge library of well-regarded media, rather than starting from scratch and making only new stuff.

If Comcast is beyond evil and Disney is not much better, certainly the Saint of all Saints could step in and save this particular day. They want exclusive content anyway (so much so, they are trying to make their own). They have more than enough cash laying around doing nothing (plus easy access to cheap debt... plus plenty of repurchased shares that could be included in a deal as if it's cash). The properties they could acquire are not exactly Planet of the Apps and/or Carpool Karaoke-level stuff.

If Beats was worth $3B to basically buy 2 guys and a little software, certainly Apple could rationalize throwing some cash at Fox and buying lots of expertise, studio properties and an 80-year library of great content already in the can.

What Apple realizes in iPhone sales for about 1+ quarter is enough cash to buy Fox. However, the ability for a gigantic corporation to buy another gigantic corporation by simply swapping some paper (shares of stock) could simplify a deal where Apple could acquire Fox and keep the depth of the cash pool at Apple still deep enough for the Execs to dive into it from the high, high board for their afternoon swims.

Besides, as soon as it would become an Apple company, what is generally viewed as a pretty high quality library of media would immediately become the finest media ever... and all media created and owned by other Studios would immediately become garbage that no one should ever waste time watching. To paraphrase a new potential Apple board member soon after this deal would go through: "Powerful, that Apple halo is." ;)

So again, where's Apple here? Why does this only have to resolve with Comcast or Disney?

Note: as an Apple consumer, I don't desire more distractions for Apple either. But they are trying to run into the content production business anyway. They probably need more expertise to make that happen. And starting with a big library of (some very well-regarded) content is probably better than starting from scratch.
 
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Oh great—so with Comcast owning all these networks we're only going to be allowed to watch those networks when using their internet because net neutrality is gone and they have a monopoly as an ISP in many regions.

Sorry, that would have nothing to do with net neutrality. The content owner could decide to sell streaming service only to people who used a particular service provider and that would be fine even under the previous FCC ruleNet Neutrality regulates the ISP side, regulating their interaction with other content people providing services over their network.
 
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Sorry, that would have nothing to do with net neutrality. The content owner could decide to sell streaming service only to people who used a particular service provider and that would be fine even under the previous FCC ruleNet Neutrality regulates the ISP side, regulating their interaction with other content people providing services over their network.
No, I was saying they would restrict access to watching anything but their networks. So no Netflix, only Xfinity streaming for those in monopoly regions!
 
No, I was saying they would restrict access to watching anything but their networks. So no Netflix, only Xfinity streaming for those in monopoly regions!
At the same time, Xfinity provides a Netflix app (among others) on cable boxes.
 
No, I was saying they would restrict access to watching anything but their networks. So no Netflix, only Xfinity streaming for those in monopoly regions!

Sorry, pretty unlikely, as that would be an anti-trust issue. Net neutrality is not the only protection. The FTC would prevent that.
 
Sorry, pretty unlikely, as that would be an anti-trust issue. Net neutrality is not the only protection. The FTC would prevent that.
We can only hope. Has it been tested in the courts? Things right now are more big-business friendly.
 
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