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I’ve used them and they’re horrible. I would never buy a heavy, safety ear protection looking headphones, stored in a bra case. Stick to your arguments and not attacking the person making their own comment.
No-one believes that you have braved Apple's currently rubbish, appointment-needing, window-shopping deterring, unfriendly, covid management system to try on a pair of earphones you've already decided that you don't like.

Let me guess, your Canadian girlfriend was with you?

Pics or it didn't happen.
 
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No-one believes that you have braved Apple's currently rubbish, appointment-needing, window-shopping deterring, unfriendly, covid management system to try on a pair of earphones you've already decided that you don't like.

Let me guess, your Canadian girlfriend was with you?

Pics or it didn't happen.
Could careless if you believe me. They’re just headphones, nothing special, nothing new, nothing better. Just expensive apple branded headphones.
 
Agreed. I am currently comparing the APMs against my H95s. :)
What are your thoughts @munishp ? Here’s where I’ve landed so far...

APM and H95 audio qualities are close enough equal, that personal taste in the color they each add will be the deciding factor, but it makes the APM a great value. Having said that, the lack of case that’ll protect these in my bag, and the ambient pressure from the ANC vs the pressure of the H95 is a downside. Once the pandemic calms down ill return to regular flying, which is why I am focused on ANC options and am willing to pay the premium for the audio quality bump over the Sony (trash quality to me) and Bose (better than Sony, but still muddied). Given the heavy focus on these as a travel headphone, the weight, size, and lack of case make the H95 far superior in that regard.

APM get a strong bump for how they fit within the  ecosystem, and I’m living exclusively in that ecosystem, so the H1 chip is valuable to me. That’s. Big plus for APM.

H95 wins in comfort for me. I had the Bowers and Wilkins PX7 but the noise canceling wasn’t as good and they were not comfortable on long flights. After a movie, they had to come off my head and hours of music were a no-go. I was done with those after a couple flights. I fear the same with the APM will be true, but I don’t have any opportunity to test that like I would in the past since I’m not flying until the pandemic is largely over.

Ultimately, it feels like audio quality is a toss-up for most, but I may prefer the H95 sound signature. Comfort goes to H95 for long use. Convince goes to APM by a long shot. The H1 is magic. Ability to travel well is H95 by a mighty long shot.

I’m a big  fanboy, and I want to love the APM, but I think these are going to miss the mark for an ANC due to the utterly useless case, weight, and ability to be on-ears for a full, long flight. UGH. I’m still torn, mostly because I want to love them, but I feel like the H95 is an overall better product for the traveler that wants ANC headphones on-ears for hours, then wants to throw them in a bag that will get tossed between Uber’s and hotel chairs.
 
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What are your thoughts @munishp ? Here’s where I’ve landed so far...

APM and H95 audio qualities are close enough equal, that personal taste in the color they each add will be the deciding factor, but it makes the APM a great value. Having said that, the lack of case that’ll protect these in my bag, and the ambient pressure from the ANC vs the pressure of the H95 is a downside. Once the pandemic calms down ill return to regular flying, which is why I am focused on ANC options and am willing to pay the premium for the audio quality bump over the Sony (trash quality to me) and Bose (better than Sony, but still muddied). Given the heavy focus on these as a travel headphone, the weight, size, and lack of case make the H95 far superior in that regard.

APM get a strong bump for how they fit within the  ecosystem, and I’m living exclusively in that ecosystem, so the H1 chip is valuable to me. That’s. Big plus for APM.

H95 wins in comfort for me. I had the Bowers and Wilkins PX7 but the noise canceling wasn’t as good and they were not comfortable on long flights. After a movie, they had to come off my head and hours of music were a no-go. I was done with those after a couple flights. I fear the same with the APM will be true, but I don’t have any opportunity to test that like I would in the past since I’m not flying until the pandemic is largely over.

Ultimately, it feels like audio quality is a toss-up for most, but I may prefer the H95 sound signature. Comfort goes to H95 for long use. Convince goes to APM by a long shot. The H1 is magic. Ability to travel well is H95 by a mighty long shot.

I’m a big  fanboy, and I want to love the APM, but I think these are going to miss the mark for an ANC due to the utterly useless case, weight, and ability to be on-ears for a full, long flight. UGH. I’m still torn, mostly because I want to love them, but I feel like the H95 is an overall better product for the traveler that wants ANC headphones on-ears for hours, then wants to throw them in a bag that will get tossed between Uber’s and hotel chairs.
Thank for the insight. For me the titanium drives, the built materials Palette, headband design, head fit and battery life were already a Big and definitive plus for the H95. As I use it mostly for music, I also favor more the neutral sound signature of B&O over the “visual media” profile of APM.
I was just surprised for your take in the ecosystem as the B&O are mfi rated. As I’m also something of fanboy myself “imbedded” (without plans to leave in the foreseen future) in Apple’s ecosystem, this was disappointing. Could you precise the misses you’re experiencing in this regard?
 
Thank for the insight. For me the titanium drives, the built materials Palette, headband design, head fit and battery life were already a Big and definitive plus for the H95. As I use it mostly for music, I also favor more the neutral sound signature of B&O over the “visual media” profile of APM.
I was just surprised for your take in the ecosystem as the B&O are mfi rated. As I’m also something of fanboy myself “imbedded” (without plans to leave in the foreseen future) in Apple’s ecosystem, this was disappointing. Could you precise the misses you’re experiencing in this regard?
This is really just about the H1. Device switching is so incredibly smooth with the APM and I’m frequently bouncing between my phone, iPad, or MacBook Pro. It’s not that the H95s are particularly hard, they just aren’t as seamless as the  devices with the H1.
 
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This is really just about the W1. Device switching is so incredibly smooth with the APM and I’m frequently bouncing between my phone, iPad, or MacBook Pro. It’s not that the H95s are particularly hard, they just aren’t as seamless as the  devices with the W1.

*H1 (and the H1 chips are one of the primary reasons I got these, after experiencing them in my AirPods, AirPods Pro.
 
This is really just about the W1. Device switching is so incredibly smooth with the APM and I’m frequently bouncing between my phone, iPad, or MacBook Pro. It’s not that the H95s are particularly hard, they just aren’t as seamless as the  devices with the W1.
Thanks!
By the way, you mean the H1 (W1 was on the 1st gen AirPod). I also enjoy the convenience on my AirPods, but personally, the lack of it it’s not a deal breaker, as long as you get Bluetooth 5.0 and the switch is not cumbersome.
 
So basically it’s a back and forth but one is almost doubly the price of others. Not to mention Bluetooth is limited and if you want better sound just get a pair that plug in. Bluetooth 5.0 in my Landrover still doesn’t sound nearly as good as plugging it in no matter how many tricks are up their sleeve.
 


At $550, the AirPods Max are quite a bit more expensive than noise cancelling headphones from other companies like Sony and Bose, many of which are highly rated. In our latest YouTube video, we compared the AirPods Max to the Sony WH-1000XM4s, the Bose NC Headphones 700, and the Sennheiser Momentum Wireless to see if they're worth the premium price tag.


All three of the competing headphones are available at $350 retail, but oftentimes, there are sales. With the Sony XM4's, for example, you can get them on sale for $280, which is a steal for the functionality. The Bose 700s are going for about $340 right now, and the Sennheisers are about $300.

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When it comes to design, the AirPods Max look and feel like $550 headphones thanks to the aluminum cups and the mesh ear cushions, and while aesthetics are subjective, they're arguably the most unique of the bunch. The Bose 700's have a classy, futuristic look and the Sennheisers have more of a retro flair. The Sony headphones are the most basic, but are overall fine.

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Sony XM4s

We think the AirPods Max are the best looking headphones of the bunch followed by the Bose and Sennheiser headphones with Sony coming in last, but it's also worth noting that the AirPods Max are heavy and are in fact the heaviest of the bunch.

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Bose NC Headphones 700

Comfort is also super subjective and is going to depend on each person's head shape, ears, and size. Most people have found the AirPods Max to be comfortable, but some find the weight to be unbearable. With their plastic design, the Sony headphones are the lightest of the bunch for those who want less weight.

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Sennheiser Momentum Wireless

We found the AirPods Max to be most comfortable, followed by the Sennheiser headphones, the Sony headphones, and then the Bose, which are also somewhat heavy and have smaller earcups. That said, it's all quite close.

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When it comes to buttons, Apple did a good job with controls for the AirPods Max with the Digital Crown and toggle for activating ANC, but we'll never understand why there's no power button or the strange case choice. The AirPods Max case is not protective, it doesn't look good, and it's all around the worst case that comes with any of the headphones.

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In terms of sound quality, the AirPods Max sound fantastic, but again, choosing one set of headphones over the other really comes down to preference. We thought the AirPods Max had the most balanced sound experience of the bunch. The Sennheiser headphones really did poorly compared to the others, but the Bose and Sony headphones both sounded great, though leaned toward being bass heavy. That said, all of the headphones except the AirPods Max have adjustable EQ settings so they can be tweaked to your liking.

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This will come as no surprise, but when it comes to Active Noise Cancellation, the Sony XM4's and the AirPods Max win out. Sony has always been the best at noise cancellation, and the AirPods Max are truly competitive. All of these options have solid ANC capabilities, though, and it's a close call.

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Our videographer, Dan, goes into much more detail on each of the different headphones, so make sure you watch the full video for a complete picture of the similarities and differences.

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All of the headphones we've covered are excellent options, and choosing between them will depend on your budget and your personal tastes. We think for most people, the AirPods Max may not be worth that premium price tag because there are other great headphones that are much more affordable available, but the AirPods Max are certainly at the head of the pack and when it comes down to it, we prefer them over the competing options.

Article Link: Comparison: AirPods Max vs Sony XM4, Sennheiser Momentum and Bose NC 700
Really feels like this article was written by fanboys looking to justify the Max. Even when saying Sony has the best noise cancellation they still somehow made it a tie.
 
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Help!!!

I’m trying to decide whether or not to buy the xm4. I’m not finding a lot of info regarding latency while watching video on iMac and/or iPhone. Can anyone here answer this? Mostly watch on iMac using Safari (many streaming services). Thanks!
I don’t have any issues using my iPhone, pad, or new Mac air.
 
Now compare these to the Beoplay H95 or the Bowers and Wilkins PX7! That’s the compare we need (and the more fair comparison for the AirPods Max).

There is no comparison to the H95 headphones. I picked up both the APM and then ordered the H95 based on a friends recommendation as the APM weren't very comfortable for me. The H95s crush the Airpods Max in every single way, losing only very slightly on transparency. The H95 build quality destroys the APM, the sound is better, the ANC is superior in my opinion because they don't create a huge amount of pressure like the APM do, and the case and accessories make the APM look silly.

The H95s are all metal and leather and not only weigh signicantly less, they are 1000 times more comfortable (at least for me) as I don't even notice I'm wearing them. I constantly felt the APM and they became really uncomfortable after only a couple of minutes of wearing.

I'm enveloped in Apple products but I have to give credit where its due and the H95s are in a different league than the APM, but they are also $250 more expensive so maybe its not a fair comparison. I could never go back to using my Sony XM4 or Bose QC 35II as its a night a day difference in every single way comparing just those two.
 
There is no comparison to the H95 headphones. I picked up both the APM and then ordered the H95 based on a friends recommendation as the APM weren't very comfortable for me. The H95s crush the Airpods Max in every single way, losing only very slightly on transparency. The H95 build quality destroys the APM, the sound is better, the ANC is superior in my opinion because they don't create a huge amount of pressure like the APM do, and the case and accessories make the APM look silly.

The H95s are all metal and leather and not only weigh signicantly less, they are 1000 times more comfortable (at least for me) as I don't even notice I'm wearing them. I constantly felt the APM and they became really uncomfortable after only a couple of minutes of wearing.

I'm enveloped in Apple products but I have to give credit where its due and the H95s are in a different league than the APM, but they are also $250 more expensive so maybe its not a fair comparison. I could never go back to using my Sony XM4 or Bose QC 35II as its a night a day difference in every single way comparing just those two.
The pressure is quite intense on the APM, yes.

I can get 20% off B and O products, so I’m thinking the H95s are going to be it for me...
 
Thanks!
By the way, you mean the H1 (W1 was on the 1st gen AirPod). I also enjoy the convenience on my AirPods, but personally, the lack of it it’s not a deal breaker, as long as you get Bluetooth 5.0 and the switch is not cumbersome.
Yes, thanks. H1! Too man new chips lol and yes, BT 5.1 in the new H95s.
 
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There is no comparison to the H95 headphones. I picked up both the APM and then ordered the H95 based on a friends recommendation as the APM weren't very comfortable for me. The H95s crush the Airpods Max in every single way, losing only very slightly on transparency. The H95 build quality destroys the APM, the sound is better, the ANC is superior in my opinion because they don't create a huge amount of pressure like the APM do, and the case and accessories make the APM look silly.

The H95s are all metal and leather and not only weigh signicantly less, they are 1000 times more comfortable (at least for me) as I don't even notice I'm wearing them. I constantly felt the APM and they became really uncomfortable after only a couple of minutes of wearing.

I'm enveloped in Apple products but I have to give credit where its due and the H95s are in a different league than the APM, but they are also $250 more expensive so maybe its not a fair comparison. I could never go back to using my Sony XM4 or Bose QC 35II as its a night a day difference in every single way comparing just those two.
Exactly this! I truly subscribe all your remarks. Now in Europe difference is “only” EUR 150...so H95 seems really a no brainer to me. I’m really disappointed by Apple’s offer.
 
There is no comparison to the H95 headphones. I picked up both the APM and then ordered the H95 based on a friends recommendation as the APM weren't very comfortable for me. The H95s crush the Airpods Max in every single way, losing only very slightly on transparency. The H95 build quality destroys the APM, the sound is better, the ANC is superior in my opinion because they don't create a huge amount of pressure like the APM do, and the case and accessories make the APM look silly.

The H95s are all metal and leather and not only weigh signicantly less, they are 1000 times more comfortable (at least for me) as I don't even notice I'm wearing them. I constantly felt the APM and they became really uncomfortable after only a couple of minutes of wearing.

I'm enveloped in Apple products but I have to give credit where its due and the H95s are in a different league than the APM, but they are also $250 more expensive so maybe its not a fair comparison. I could never go back to using my Sony XM4 or Bose QC 35II as its a night a day difference in every single way comparing just those two.
There is no comparison to the H95 headphones. I picked up both the APM and then ordered the H95 based on a friends recommendation as the APM weren't very comfortable for me. The H95s crush the Airpods Max in every single way, losing only very slightly on transparency. The H95 build quality destroys the APM, the sound is better, the ANC is superior in my opinion because they don't create a huge amount of pressure like the APM do, and the case and accessories make the APM look silly.

The H95s are all metal and leather and not only weigh signicantly less, they are 1000 times more comfortable (at least for me) as I don't even notice I'm wearing them. I constantly felt the APM and they became really uncomfortable after only a couple of minutes of wearing.

I'm enveloped in Apple products but I have to give credit where its due and the H95s are in a different league than the APM, but they are also $250 more expensive so maybe its not a fair comparison. I could never go back to using my Sony XM4 or Bose QC 35II as its a night a day difference in every single way comparing just those two.
A few things to throw in the mix - I really think that the Max’s were designed to be a great sounding one stop noise cancelling wireless audio, multimedia and voice calls set of headphones across all Apple devices, and they tick those boxes. The H95’s are by all accounts super premium headphones for music that sound great wireless and stellar wired, but feature for feature aren’t quite the same. Taste differs - but to me the Max’s are comfy and sound pretty darn good - for music AND Movies - spatial audio is amazing and will I’m sure be front and centre of the next Apple TV (it’s not just head tracking but surround) so I’m in.

I also am just not ready to go external DAC and wired so I’m judging them chiefly on their wireless merits - which is what Apple is really pushing.

Here’s where it gets spicy - with a decent case , perhaps the hardwire wire and APPLECARE + the Max’s match (perhaps even top) the price of the H95’s! £700 in the UK.

The audiophile might say sound profile above everything else. But demoing both via Brian Tong (I know it’s not 100% the same) - sonically it was closer than I would have thought - perhaps the H95’s had a little more native clarity and brightness. Again taste and usefulness of features differ. Settings can be tweaked. I’m sure the H95’s are ‘technically” the better cans if sound profile were the ONLY criterion.

But I had some B&O E9’s a few years ago and they DESTROYED the OG AirPods sonically. I loved the things - and they lasted with intermittent use less than 2 years despite care - the left bud gave up the ghost and the leather case flaked away. I mothered them a lot more than my Airpods which took a beating without the anxiety of the E9’s and lasted longer. So after burning £270 for less than 18 months worth of normal use - a £700 punt on B&O flagship gives me pause. Portable electronics are destined for accidents and knocks.

So with the Max’s (despite the taxes) AppleCare will allow me to use them without terror for the forseeable future, and that‘s quite a big deal, one that makes the contest a little closer!
 
A few things to throw in the mix - I really think that the Max’s were designed to be a great sounding one stop noise cancelling wireless audio, multimedia and voice calls set of headphones across all Apple devices, and they tick those boxes. The H95’s are by all accounts super premium headphones for music that sound great wireless and stellar wired, but feature for feature aren’t quite the same. Taste differs - but to me the Max’s are comfy and sound pretty darn good - for music AND Movies - spatial audio is amazing and will I’m sure be front and centre of the next Apple TV (it’s not just head tracking but surround) so I’m in.

I also am just not ready to go external DAC and wired so I’m judging them chiefly on their wireless merits - which is what Apple is really pushing.

Here’s where it gets spicy - with a decent case , perhaps the hardwire wire and APPLECARE + the Max’s match (perhaps even top) the price of the H95’s! £700 in the UK.

The audiophile might say sound profile above everything else. But demoing both via Brian Tong (I know it’s not 100% the same) - sonically it was closer than I would have thought - perhaps the H95’s had a little more native clarity and brightness. Again taste and usefulness of features differ. Settings can be tweaked. I’m sure the H95’s are ‘technically” the better cans if sound profile were the ONLY criterion.

But I had some B&O E9’s a few years ago and they DESTROYED the OG AirPods sonically. I loved the things - and they lasted with intermittent use less than 2 years despite care - the left bud gave up the ghost and the leather case flaked away. I mothered them a lot more than my Airpods which took a beating without the anxiety of the E9’s and lasted longer. So after burning £270 for less than 18 months worth of normal use - a £700 punt on B&O flagship gives me pause. Portable electronics are destined for accidents and knocks.

So with the Max’s (despite the taxes) AppleCare will allow me to use them without terror for the forseeable future, and that‘s quite a big deal, one that makes the contest a little closer!

All fair points. This is my first time ever owning B&O Headphones and I would have purchased the H95's much sooner had I known they were this nice and I would have stopped using Sony and Bose all together. I do really wish the APM would have worked out for me. There was nothing about them them that I didn't love outside of comfort. If a set of headphones is downright painful to wear after a an hour or so that's just not going to work for me. Outside of comfort, I thought they were truly fantastic.
 
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A few things to throw in the mix - I really think that the Max’s were designed to be a great sounding one stop noise cancelling wireless audio, multimedia and voice calls set of headphones across all Apple devices, and they tick those boxes. The H95’s are by all accounts super premium headphones for music that sound great wireless and stellar wired, but feature for feature aren’t quite the same. Taste differs - but to me the Max’s are comfy and sound pretty darn good - for music AND Movies - spatial audio is amazing and will I’m sure be front and centre of the next Apple TV (it’s not just head tracking but surround) so I’m in.

I also am just not ready to go external DAC and wired so I’m judging them chiefly on their wireless merits - which is what Apple is really pushing.

Here’s where it gets spicy - with a decent case , perhaps the hardwire wire and APPLECARE + the Max’s match (perhaps even top) the price of the H95’s! £700 in the UK.

The audiophile might say sound profile above everything else. But demoing both via Brian Tong (I know it’s not 100% the same) - sonically it was closer than I would have thought - perhaps the H95’s had a little more native clarity and brightness. Again taste and usefulness of features differ. Settings can be tweaked. I’m sure the H95’s are ‘technically” the better cans if sound profile were the ONLY criterion.

But I had some B&O E9’s a few years ago and they DESTROYED the OG AirPods sonically. I loved the things - and they lasted with intermittent use less than 2 years despite care - the left bud gave up the ghost and the leather case flaked away. I mothered them a lot more than my Airpods which took a beating without the anxiety of the E9’s and lasted longer. So after burning £270 for less than 18 months worth of normal use - a £700 punt on B&O flagship gives me pause. Portable electronics are destined for accidents and knocks.

So with the Max’s (despite the taxes) AppleCare will allow me to use them without terror for the forseeable future, and that‘s quite a big deal, one that makes the contest a little closer!
So, I have the B&O H9 (3rd Gen) and I love them. Comfortable and with great sound and excellent ANC. Those cost $500. I'm wondering how much better(?) the H95's sound?

And of course the Apple AirPods Max are intriguing at the $550 price point, especially because of the spatial audio and the thought of using them with Apple TV (though I wonder how well they will handle audio coordinated with video).

So far, all of my B&O products have lasted quite well. That's only 3 other (B&O) products I own - the original e8's and the 2nd and 3rd Gen e8's. Both are great little in-ear true wireless and sound fantastic (though, no ANC—yet).
 
though I wonder how well they will handle audio coordinated with video
The AirPlay protocol keeps everything in synch. Even non-Apple devices that utilize airplay won’t have a problem keeping the audio and video I’m sync. In the background, the audio is played just ahead of the video so that it takes into account the compression and decompression required. Such that, when the audio plays through the headphones, it matches what you’re seeing on the screen.
 
Has anyone tried the new Wyze noise-cancelling headphones for $50? I wonder how they compare.
I got an email from Micro Center this morning, usually I delete it (because it can actually be dangerous for my wallet! 😆) But this had a coupon for a free pair of wireless earbuds. Anyway, after looking at the ad, I saw the Wyze ANC headphones for $50.

Has NO idea they even made headphones - Personally I like the brand...few small indoor cameras here that have worked great for over a yr., 4 light bulbs also. I looked up some reviews on the headset dated late dec, early Jan. which all seemed pretty positive. Now I did want to stop at MC for a new CD writer on my iMac (LG, 23 bucks, cant beat that).

So I did go today...grabbed the Wyze headphones and wow, I am actually very impressed!! Now these are the FIRST true ANC headphones I have owned (I've tried the Bose, the insanely expensive Sonys at best buy and yeah...those are amazing, just crazy expensive), I am no expert at all this ANC technology.

Anyway, the active noice cancelation is way much better than I ever expected. Now right now, I am in my office with an air purifier on high which is a steady hum, TV as well and hear nothing except the music, 97-99% silence in between songs. if I place my hand over the right headset, then the music goes silent and I can hear the TV, hum of the purifier. - Double tap on the right ear brings up Siri and its pretty clear.

The Wyze app on the iPhone, you can change sound modes, have a custom EQ.

For me personally, the music quality is darn good for me, playing hip hop, to 80s pop, classic Zeppelin, it sounds great. (I know there are a ton of audio experts in here that may think otherwise...that's fine.)

Heck, for $50 I think it's worth it!
 
Larry Jordan reported that Sennheiser is looking to split off its consumer (audio, headphone) products:

“In our Professional and Consumer Divisions, we have four Business Units in total: Pro Audio, Business Communications, Neumann and Consumer Electronics. In all of these areas we see great potential for growth. At the same time, they are characterized by different customer groups, customer requirements, product life cycles and market dynamics,” says Andreas Sennheiser, Co-CEO of Sennheiser. “To be best able to exploit the potential in each of these markets, we are concentrating our own resources on the three business areas in the Professional division and are looking for a strong partner to invest in our Consumer business," adds Daniel Sennheiser, Co-CEO of Sennheiser. Talks with potential partners will start shortly. "


The way I read it they no longer want to use their own product development team for consumer products. Assuming that they find a new partner, that partner would take over product development. Unsure what that would mean for Sennheiser quality.
 
Larry Jordan reported that Sennheiser is looking to split off its consumer (audio, headphone) products:
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The way I read it they no longer want to use their own product development team for consumer products. Assuming that they find a new partner, that partner would take over product development. Unsure what that would mean for Sennheiser quality.
This is a surprising and unexpected turn of events. No telling what it means.
 
The Sony is bass heavy and they step on the vocals because of that. The balanced sound of the Airpods is simply more pleasing and they have a better soundstage too.

Oh and the Sony has tiny ear cups, to be fair, the Bose 700 have tiny ear cups as well. Yea your ears fit in them, but it’s like a Tiny house compared to the southern mansion sized cups apple gives you.
 
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