Comparison of Cameras Across iPhone Generations

[tbrinkma]

no they did not really question it at the time.

At the time there was not any plug like it that could perform those function universally. You had printer cables (bulky as hell) tons of com ports device that yessed used large bulky plugs.

Thunderbolt really does not bring much new to the picture. It is massive over kill for most devices that could use it. So much over kill that it is not worth the cost to build devices for it.

Thunderbolt is looking to be like firewire and we all saw how firewire worked out.

Everyone was deeply suspicious of a cheap and simple USB port replacing all their legacy PS2's and DB9's and DB25's and bulky Centronics cables. Oh, wait, never mind. Everyone was happy to have access to a fast hot-swap port that worked with nearly everything and didn't require $50 cables or only connect with a handful of thousand dollar devices. The problem with FireWire wasn't that it was developed by Apple. FireWire was technically superior to USB by all accounts and found a strong following in professional markets. The problem with FireWire was that few commodity manufacturers were willing to use it and it remained too expensive to become a universal port. If it had been developed by Intel that wouldn't have changed anything.

Clearly you two are suffering from nostalgia-vision. I worked retail when the iMac and USB on Windows hit the scene, and it was a royal pain for customers early on. The plethora of adapter cables to let your old printer run off a USB port, or to run a USB printer off a parallel port. Mouse and keyboard conversion dongles. They didn't all work with all device/computer combinations, either, so good luck finding the right one.

Back then a base-line USB keyboard ran $35+, and a basic USB mouse was $45+. Those fancy new USB printers? They didn't come with a USB cable for some unfathomable reason, so you had to buy one along with it, typically $25 or so for a 6' cable. Need something longer? Good luck, and pull out the credit card.

USB *got* cheap and ubiquitous, it certainly didn't start out that way, and on the Windows side it certainly didn't start out problem-free either.

 

[akbarali.ch]

gsm arena Camera compare shows iphone 4 better than iphone4S

Hi guys as we all know iphone4S's camera is way better than iphone4. Recently i went on to GSMarena to compare camera (They have nice webpage Tool ). To my surprise it seems iphone4 take sharper images than iphone4S.

Can someone conform this please, if it is, then its big let down. A very important factor for my decision to get iphone4S.

 

[marcusj0015]

What about a control pic from a very high quality camera? becasue tbh, the 4S even looks a bit off.

 

[akbarali.ch]

What about a control pic from a very high quality camera? becasue tbh, the 4S even looks a bit off.

I dont have any other Camera besides iphone3gs, iphone4 and samsung galaxy 2 (before someone picks at me for having 3 phones, i use i4 and 3gs & sg2 are use by 2 brothers)

But is'nt it surprising about the camera. Can please anyone conform this. I dont have iphone4S, if someone has both 4 & 4s it would be good to do some real world testing, but carefully done so.

 

[AllieNeko]

Hi guys as we all know iphone4S's camera is way better than iphone4. Recently i went on to GSMarena to compare camera (They have nice webpage Tool ). To my surprise it seems iphone4 take sharper images than iphone4S.

Can someone conform this please, if it is, then its big let down. A very important factor for my decision to get iphone4S.

Looking at their comparison tool, the iPhone 4S is a clearly superior image. The iPhone 4 looks artificially sharp (too much sharpening, which can be done in software) - but there's more DETAIL in the iPhone 4S images. Detail is what counts.

P.S. I found part of what's going on. Looking at pictures from other cameras - even the reference cameras- that "color poster" image looked like junk compared to EITHER iPhone image. It just is a bad image that the iPhone's sharpening and noise characteristics make look better. Switch to looking at the ISO chart. MUCH more realistic example of what's going on...

 

[davegoody]

I laughed so much I nearly wet myself

Here's some night shots from the original.

At the park

Having dinner

On the beach

Reminds me of the old "Paris by night" all black postcards.

TBH the iPhone 4 VIDEO is great, but photos are not so much.... Get my iPhone 4s today, so will hope that the photos are better. Either way I shoot on pro-level SLRs most of the time, so a phone cam is never going to be anywhere near as good.

 

[akbarali.ch]

Looking at their comparison tool, the iPhone 4S is a clearly superior image. The iPhone 4 looks artificially sharp (too much sharpening, which can be done in software) - but there's more DETAIL in the iPhone 4S images. Detail is what counts.

P.S. I found part of what's going on. Looking at pictures from other cameras - even the reference cameras- that "color poster" image looked like junk compared to EITHER iPhone image. It just is a bad image that the iPhone's sharpening and noise characteristics make look better. Switch to looking at the ISO chart. MUCH more realistic example of what's going on...

Here's another part of the image, i grabbed after i posted the last one. This again clearly shows details that iphone4 got but iphone4S seems to have smudged. As you say, software can be used to sharpen images, can you use photoshop and sharpen iphone4S slide and manage to get the details thats there in iphone4 slide.
(It might also a possibility that GSMArena guys did not take photos carefully enough from iphone4S, its just a thought)
Waiting....

 

[AllieNeko]

Here's another part of the image, i grabbed after i posted the last one. This again clearly shows details that iphone4 got but iphone4S seems to have smudged. As you say, software can be used to sharpen images, can you use photoshop and sharpen iphone4S slide and manage to get the details thats there in iphone4 slide.
(It might also a possibility that GSMArena guys did not take photos carefully enough from iphone4S, its just a thought)
Waiting....

As I noted, something is WRONG with the "color poster" image. Look at the ISO chart. The iPhone 4 image of the "color poster" looks better than the image from a DSLR... that obvious indicates a test problem (or a weird condition the iPhone 4 works well in) - presumably a lack of actual detail in the poster combined with possible lighting and autofocus issues.

Click on the ISO chart and look at their comparison tool with that and you'll clearly see the difference...

 

[akbarali.ch]

As I noted, something is WRONG with the "color poster" image. Look at the ISO chart. The iPhone 4 image of the "color poster" looks better than the image from a DSLR... that obvious indicates a test problem (or a weird condition the iPhone 4 works well in) - presumably a lack of actual detail in the poster combined with possible lighting and autofocus issues.

Click on the ISO chart and look at their comparison tool with that and you'll clearly see the difference...

Yeah, i guess their test itself is broken it seems, at certain point iPhone4 seems to beat even DSLR!, thats just not possible. I think they should've done it more carefully. Anyway thanks.

 

[AllieNeko]

Yeah, i guess their test itself is broken it seems, at certain point iPhone4 seems to beat even DSLR!, thats just not possible. I think they should've done it more carefully. Anyway thanks.

Exactly, but they also have images of an ISO test chart. Those results "feel" far more valid to me. But yes, the color poster image at least is a screwed up test. It's obvious the results aren't valid to more general photography. My guess is the lighting rig or finish of the poster or something is throwing off most of the cameras in a way it's not the iPhone 4...

P.S. in case you don't see the link - http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=4212&idPhone2=3275&idPhone3=3621

The results on that test image seem much more accurate.