competing phones to knock the iphone's socks off

[chox99]

Toshiba TG01 + WInMO 6.5 = .
As much as I hate WinMo. I think 6.5 or 7.0 on TG01 will be awesome.

 

[STEVESKI07]

push notifications are amazing im willing to bet that in 8 years other competitors will finally be at the level of push

Haha. I'm a huge fan of the iPhone, but saying this is just ignorant. At the level of push? Does this mean one level behind every other phone that can multitask? I don't want to get into this whole discussion, but just stop being a fanboy and actually encourage some competition. If there was no competition, Apple would sit back and never make changes to the iPhone.

 

[iphoneftw]

Haha. I'm a huge fan of the iPhone, but saying this is just ignorant. At the level of push? Does this mean one level behind every other phone that can multitask? I don't want to get into this whole discussion, but just stop being a fanboy and actually encourage some competition. If there was no competition, Apple would sit back and never make changes to the iPhone.

That is wrong apple would not sit back they would continually seek to better there product and generate revenue i want some competition so apple will have to work harder to get peoples attention. It's really a win win If technology move forward at other companies it will force apple to work harder and make the iPhone better but right now all other phone makers are playing catch up

 

[DiamondMac]

I said no but I wouldn't be shocked if someone eventually came along with a phone that is extremely impressive. Now, most here wouldn't admit it was great but I think the sales of it would say so.

I love companies that push Apple. I want everyone pushing Apple. Keep them on their toes.

Companies fighting it out means we win, imo

 

[iphoneftw]

I said no but I wouldn't be shocked if someone eventually came along with a phone that is extremely impressive. Now, most here wouldn't admit it was great but I think the sales of it would say so.

I love companies that push Apple. I want everyone pushing Apple. Keep them on their toes.

Companies fighting it out means we win, imo

we need some dang competition

 

[coolwater]

iTunes and Apple apps made iPhone untouchable. And, seeing not even Google can create another 'iTunes', no one will come close.

No doubt iTunes is the Apple's best creation; not all those hardwares. So, comparing hardwares is pointless.

 

[iphoneftw]

iTunes and Apple apps made iPhone untouchable. And, seeing not even Google can create another 'iTunes', no one will come close.
No doubt iTunes is the Apple's best creation; not all those hardwares. So, comparing hardwares is pointless.

agree 100% itunes is one of the features that make people buy and ipod/iphone because of the ease of use.

 

[moka]

 

[iphoneftw]

the bottom left one is hotter than my hardrive

 

[eezing]

Nobody can even make a worthy competitor for the iPod, let alone the iPhone. There's no way anybody will be able to compete in my opinion, at least not for quite some time.

ZUNE HD PHONE (pure speculation).

 

[iphoneftw]

ZUNE HD PHONE (pure speculation).

bill gates would be ashamed to own such a bad phone (realist point of view)

 

[Woz Beard]

I don't think anything is going to hurt the iPhone 3GS this year. Next year will be a different story. BB Storm 2.0, Palm Pre 2.0, anything with Android, etc. will be too much for Apple to handle IF they don't release a revolutionary iPhone 4.0 next year. I don't want an iPhone 3GLS (ludicrous speed for you Space Ball fans out there), I want something to knock MY socks off. I'm looking forward to the Pre 2.0 because there are a lot of things they're going to improve on from 1.0. Of course, all of this is moot if Apple comes out with a new SW update that includes background apps, flash, etc.

Stay tuned.

 

[iphoneftw]

That's a unique feature. Perhaps less so with the Pre.
thats part of what makes the iphone stand out
Storage? The iphone is not the first phone to have onboard memory. Some phones have infinate memory by the way, as you can keep plugging in microSD cards. Gosh, more "advanced" than the iphone there.
microsd cards are smart for a camera yes but for a mobile phone no. how many other phones out there have 16gb/32gbs of storage onboard?
What does that even mean? I'd say Opera have mobile browsers that are as "complete" as Safari. I prefer safari, but don't tell me it's the only decent mobile browser out there.
its blazing fast if u see the tests of javascript benchmarks what phone is in the lead? opera is a weak mobile browser id rather have netscape navigator
Quite possible on a Windows Mobile device thanks. Not as easy or as pleasant as on an iPhone (and the iphone's usability benefit shouldn't be under-estimated), but again quite possible.
you said it yourself its not pleasant its all about functionality u can buy a movie/tvshow and have it transfer your purchase rightback to your computer
I'd suggest that's a subjective thing. I'd also suggest that Sony-Ericsson and Nokia might have something to say about that.
yeah but consider how much you actually use the phone its almost a mini computer
That's one for Apple.
the problem with the app store is that there are too many lite versions if you could try whole apps before u buy there would be less apps so thats a downfall of the appstore
It might take a while for other people to "get it" about why Apple's product is so much better to use despite their products having a similar checklist of features, but there is no way 8 years of difference. Let's face it, the palm pre isn't a bad fist at catching up with Apple's phone and that didn't take that long to develop. not all phones in the market will take 8 years to catch up not but for most of them it will because most of the company are just mimicking whatever apple does (example appstores)

thats just my opinion but i respect yours

 

[apfhex]

It's been said over and over again, and yet naysayers and critics continue to ignore this: the innovation isn't in the basic features of the device, but how they are implemented. The specs on paper in and of themselves are not remarkable and never really have been. It's the fact that the iPhone does these features better than most other phones out there that makes it popular.

QFT. Excellent post.

I don't think anything is going to hurt the iPhone 3GS this year. Next year will be a different story. BB Storm 2.0, Palm Pre 2.0, anything with Android, etc. will be too much for Apple to handle IF they don't release a revolutionary iPhone 4.0 next year.

I bet Apple will have something reasonably exciting next WWDC, or at least something good enough to stay up there. But don't get me wrong, I want there to be competition. Phones have been too sucky for too long and I think it's a little sad that the first one to even come close to the iPhone — the Pre — only got there because they have ex Apple employees working on it. I DO think that if they address the hardware issues people have been complaining about and get a reasonable SDK and some good apps on their store, it'll do quite well. Especially if they come to Verizon and make a GSM version too. I'll stick with the iPhone because I love how well it integrates with my Mac, but if I were a PC person I might look at the Pre more seriously.

 

[Goona]

I don't think anything is going to hurt the iPhone 3GS this year. Next year will be a different story. BB Storm 2.0, Palm Pre 2.0, anything with Android, etc. will be too much for Apple to handle IF they don't release a revolutionary iPhone 4.0 next year. I don't want an iPhone 3GLS (ludicrous speed for you Space Ball fans out there), I want something to knock MY socks off. I'm looking forward to the Pre 2.0 because there are a lot of things they're going to improve on from 1.0. Of course, all of this is moot if Apple comes out with a new SW update that includes background apps, flash, etc.

Stay tuned.

And what makes you think any of those phones would be able to take on iphone 4.0, anyways we're still waiting for the phone to dethrone iphone, it's almost 3 years now, apparently we'll see it in 2010.

 

[Woz Beard]

And what makes you think any of those phones would be able to take on iphone 4.0, anyways we're still waiting for the phone to dethrone iphone, it's almost 3 years now, apparently we'll see it in 2010.

That's the thing. The iPhone 4.0 needs to be revolutionary. If it is, then it doesn't matter what the competition releases. If it's another 3GS, then I believe you'll see a massive drop in sales. Their app stores will be bigger, UI improvements, etc.

iPhone 2G had the LG Voyager.
iPhone 3G had the BB Storm, G1, SE X1, etc.
iPhone 3GS has the Palm Pre, new HTC handsets, SE X2, etc.

 

[DiamondMac]

That's the thing. The iPhone 4.0 needs to be revolutionary. If it is, then it doesn't matter what the competition releases. If it's another 3GS, then I believe you'll see a massive drop in sales. Their app stores will be bigger, UI improvements, etc.

iPhone 2G had the LG Voyager.
iPhone 3G had the BB Storm, G1, SE X1, etc.
iPhone 3GS has the Palm Pre, new HTC handsets, SE X2, etc.

4.0 doesn't have to be revolutionary or even close to it

As long as they keep upgrading the software and adding things (and we have countless threads with requests), I think most will be happy.

Revolutionary? Seems quite far-fetched

 

[iphoneftw]

4.0 doesn't have to be revolutionary or even close to it

As long as they keep upgrading the software and adding things (and we have countless threads with requests), I think most will be happy.

Revolutionary? Seems quite far-fetched

lol

 

[iphoneftw]

That's the thing. The iPhone 4.0 needs to be revolutionary. If it is, then it doesn't matter what the competition releases. If it's another 3GS, then I believe you'll see a massive drop in sales. Their app stores will be bigger, UI improvements, etc.

iPhone 2G had the LG Voyager.
iPhone 3G had the BB Storm, G1, SE X1, etc.
iPhone 3GS has the Palm Pre, new HTC handsets, S X2, etc.

This is exactly what I mean more and moree phones are catching up by mimicing the iPhone. It's definitly gonna take 8 years for all phones to be at the iPhones level that it is right now

 

[iphoneftw]

lol still no real major competitors yet

 

[littlewaywelt]

8 years ahead? How about years behind? How long did it take us to get basic cut and paste?

There are a ton of phones that do plenty of things Apple can't.
My ~4 year old Treo 700 WX is frankly, much more powerful than my iPhone 3g.

don't get me wrong...I love my iPhone. It's fast, simple, easy to use and reliable, but imho, WM is far more powerful and allows much more customization without having to jailbrake.

iPhone shines in media and fun apps. WM shines in business.

 

[OneMike]

There will be an iphone killer but as with the iphone I think it will have to go greatly beyond the phone.

In 2000 I had my first nextel and at the time the walkie talkie feature was the in thing. Helped expand beyond the business crowd.

After when the first sidekicks came out a popular feature that brought crowds in was the AIM integration. AIM in phones I could remember was web based for the most part, sucked and/or was an additional purchase.

Treo was hot around the time but more from a business point like blackberry. Regular users and kids had them but no where like today if nothing else for price. Browser still wasn't great but email at your hand meets PDA.

The thing that made iPhones hot was the must have factor of an ipod.

To be short I think the next best phone to knock off iphone will be the phone to take advantage of offering the best support for the next biggest thing.

Obviously there is more to everything then what I said and it's not true for everybody.

 

[iphoneftw]

That's the thing. The iPhone 4.0 needs to be revolutionary. If it is, then it doesn't matter what the competition releases. If it's another 3GS, then I believe you'll see a massive drop in sales. Their app stores will be bigger, UI improvements, etc.

iPhone 2G had the LG Voyager.
iPhone 3G had the BB Storm, G1, SE X1, etc.
iPhone 3GS has the Palm Pre, new HTC handsets, SE X2, etc.

phones are catching up but it will definitly take 8 years for every phone to be at the level of the iphone

 

[QuadCoreDad]

lol

LOL.. but comparing to the iPhone, will " the other phone " blend?

 

[QuadCoreDad]

lol still no real major competitors yet

N97 = Hyped up but still.. FAIL.
Touch Diamond / TD2 = Hyped up but lost its shine. FAIL.
Palm Pre = The hype is still there, but is dying off. Quite a FAIL.