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Components for Apple Television Set Reportedly 'Starting to Move in Small Quantities'

perealb said:
Unless Apple <.....> buys them up, iTV is not going to happen.
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Extremely unlikely. ITV currently has a remit as a Public Sector Broadcaster, and any such attempt to buy a PSB outright would attract large scale scrutiny from a number of UK government departments, from Culture, Media & Sport, to the Treasury (under the Business section), to the Competition Commission, etc. As a simple comparison, when News Corp tried to buy out the existing shares in Sky (which isn't even a PSB), that went through a number of hoops over months and months before it even got to the point where things went belly up due to the hacking scandal. A PSB has a whole host of extra safeguards, so the chances of ITV "simply being bought" by Apple aren't just slim, they're anorexic.
 
Not Retina

Those who keep saying that 1080p is retina obviously have never seen a 4K in person at 10' away. And 8K OMG.

Apple could be the first to release a 4K TV in volume and blow everyone away.
 
Gene Munster has been talking about the apple tv out of his behind for a long time, what gives us any indication that he isn't doing so now? Sure enough, it appears right now apple are indeed developing a tv but that doesn't mean Gene has started using his mouth instead and reliable sources.
 
Gaspode67 said:
Extremely unlikely. ITV currently has a remit as a Public Sector Broadcaster, and any such attempt to buy a PSB outright would attract large scale scrutiny from a number of UK government departments, from Culture, Media & Sport, to the Treasury (under the Business section), to the Competition Commission, etc. As a simple comparison, when News Corp tried to buy out the existing shares in Sky (which isn't even a PSB), that went through a number of hoops over months and months before it even got to the point where things went belly up due to the hacking scandal. A PSB has a whole host of extra safeguards, so the chances of ITV "simply being bought" by Apple aren't just slim, they're anorexic.
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Well, you know better since you're there. This just makes it more difficult for iTV name to happen. They could fight in court since they would be in different business. It would be a similar case like when Apple fought over the Apple name with Apple Records (also from UK). They ended up reaching an agreement. I've read somewhere that the people from iTV are not willing to do any agreement with Apple. So, we'll see how that goes.
 
Gaspode67 said:
Retina is just a marketing term. People always for get that and try and link it in to be a specific ppi figure. What it relates to is having the size of the pixel being less than the size resolveable by the naked eye at the typical use distance. By that definition, a typical 40" TV is "retina" at normal use conditions.
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That would be why I stated that at an approx. 8'+ viewing DISTANCE, 1536p likely would qualify as Retina quality as defined by Apple which does not imply any specific resolution, rather detection by the human eye.

And what of actual content? The current standard is 1080 lines for high def. No-one's making actual TV content in this mythical 1536 lines that you've conjured up.[/QUOTE]

I've watched many channels/shows in the past 5+ years on 1080p tv's that looked like crap until they launched HD versions of that content (eg Comedy Central) at which time we the end users had to do absolutely nothing except enjoy the new content in native resolution.

Point is, they'll get there if need be.

I'm gonna say that Apple doesn't need to care about any content beyond their or their developers control. However, by offering an "iDisPLAY" (get it? for gaming) with a higher than 1080p resolution, they can set a new bar for content resolution.

If ANY company can influence a new higher than 1080p/1536p "standard" in the broadcast industry over the next few years, it's Apple.

240 - 480 - 720/768 - 1080/1536... later on 2304 - 3072 - etc.

Let the necessary convergence (especially for Apple and it's hundreds of millions of computer and iDevice users, as well as computer and device users from ALL companies) between television and computer monitor/display resolutions begin at 1536p with Apple's new "iDisplay".

For the most part I've stopped differentiating between television and computer monitors for over 5 years when I first started referring to them all as "displays" after I started seeing more and more computer monitors arrive with tv broadcast signal input capabilities.

iDisplay. :)
 
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They just released an updated Apple TV, I don't see a TV set coming this year at all. It makes no sense.
 
JHankwitz said:
Your eye can't resolve pixel detail on a current 55" TV from 8 feet away now, so increasing the detail would not provide any improvement.
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You better call the major TV manufacturers and tell them to halt shipments of the 4K TV's being released later this year.
 
I feel Apple would be making a mistake to build such a product. There simply is too much competition in the TV market and a very small markup. Personally I have always been frustrated by the latest trend to build smart features into a TV such as Internet browsing and subscription services. If you have a device that gives you those features (PS3, XBox, Media Server, Apple TV) WHY would you want a TV with those features. You can move your box from set to set easily, upgrade your TV without having to pay the premium for the extra hardware… I like the component paradigm. But I have to admit that Apple seems NOT to, so who knows.
 
tdmartin102 said:
I feel Apple would be making a mistake to build such a product. There simply is too much competition in the TV market and a very small markup. .
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Would the same not have been said about the mobile market before Apple hit - Nokia, Samsung, HTC, Motarola ....
 
iAmUndefined said:
Those who keep saying that 1080p is retina obviously have never seen a 4K in person at 10' away. And 8K OMG.

Apple could be the first to release a 4K TV in volume and blow everyone away.
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Could...but they won't
A 4K TV is gonna cost at least $4k even a cheap one for a while.
There is no content mechanism for 4K - No real streaming codecs that are compressed enough - no discs even - RED have the best 4K deliverable codec Apparently 4K footage at less bitrate than a DVD!

Oh and technically 1080p is retina - depends on percieved viewing distance. At 8 feet I cannot see individual pixels..at 4 feet I can.

it's about the ratio of screen size...
At 8 feet
42" - 1080p is fine
65" - 1080p you can make out the pixels - 4K super sharp.
102" - I suspect 4K is fine.
so for 8K you are going to need a 400" tv befroe you can see the pixels at 8 feet!!!!

Look at this way... most digital cinemas project at 2k! And they look pretty sharp @ 30 feet and 40 Foot screens!
 
Revelation78 said:
OK, just because you can't doesn't limit me in anyway, but thanks anyways for playing. I know what I'm capable of - for instance I can't swim the English Channel.
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Are you seriously claiming to be able to discern two discrete pixels at 0.025" size (and a separation of a lot less than that) at a distance of 15'?* Sorry, but I don't buy that. What source are you running the screen from? What resolution image is being pushed?


* Yes, an individual pixel on the TV that you mentioned is approx 0.025inches in size. Simple pythagoras and knowing the pixel resolution of the screen gives that.
 
Gaspode67 said:
Are you seriously claiming to be able to discern two discrete pixels at 0.025" size (and a separation of a lot less than that) at a distance of 15'?* Sorry, but I don't buy that. What source are you running the screen from? What resolution image is being pushed?


* Yes, an individual pixel on the TV that you mentioned is approx 0.025inches in size. Simple pythagoras and knowing the pixel resolution of the screen gives that.
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Yes I can. My TV is pushing 1080P Blue Ray content. Yes I can see the pixels - if you want to doubt me, that's fine. I can't "prove it" over the internet, so you will either have to take my word for it or not...
 
Which TV sets have two DTT tuners for Full Picture-in-Picture (Full PiP), which requires at least two Digital Terrestrial Television (DTTV or DTT) tuners inside the TV set? The Full PiP feature is extremely useful for channel surfing during commercials (ie., very handy for bridging commercial breaks). Thus, waiting for commercials to end on one show while flipping through channels to see what else is on. No cable/satellite/TiVo/DVR involved; just the TV set. After image quality, Full PiP is the most important feature of a TV for many consumers.
 
Moonjumper said:
Apple will have to go something to beat designs like this. I hope they can!

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Last month, Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster, who has long been a proponent of an Apple television set, reported that Apple was investigating components for just such a product, contacting suppliers to learn about the capabilities of their various offerings.

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As shared by Business Insider, a new report from Jeffries & Co. analyst Peter Misek claims that things have now moved a step further, with his recent visit to Asia yielding reports of "small quantities" of various components being shipped to Apple's television display panel partners. Misek expects that commercial production of an Apple television set will begin in May or June, with a launch coming sometime in the fourth quarter of this year.Despite resistance from content providers, Apple has also been rumored to be pressing ahead to develop a subscription TV service for launch by the end of the year, in line with predictions for the launch of the television set itself.

In his report today, Misek has also raised his price target for Apple's stock from $599 to $699, boosting his iPhone sales prediction for the current quarter by over 5 million to 33.2 million units.

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will never happen, the profits margins are way too low
 
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