Isn't saying I already realized that good enough? Please read other peoples posts. I'm saying IF Apple did this.
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Isn't saying I already realized that good enough? Please read other peoples posts. I'm saying IF Apple did this.
This is 100% wrong. Neither of those reports point to evidence that a larger iPad will come in the near future. It is possible, but there has been no evidence to suggest so. Those 2 articles are just people saying they with for a larger iPad. There has been no parts leaks, no mentions in beta versions of OS X or iOS etc etc. This is wrong. Very wrong.
I repeat (repetition for the sake of empasis), there has been NO credible (as in part leaks or strings in beta OSes or the like) to suggest a larger iPad will come in the future. At the moment it's 100% wishful thinking and rumour. Nothing as pointed definitively to this. Only pointers to people wishing for this have been linked.
Feel free to prove me wrong with links to larger iPad part leaks or OS string leaks or similar. I'd like to see them. But as it stands there has been none. This I am saying so people are not fooled by the original article.
This person notices this too. And I realise others have said this too, but it's repetition for the sake of emphasis. And to get the staff here to listen and fix the article.
Wasn't there a windows tablet/laptop that did something like that, and I'm pretty sure it didn't sell well. The idea of having a full desktop OS has been tried before and except for a few very small niche markets has failed. That's why the iPad was successful, Apple saw that everyone else was messing up by putting a desktop OS on a tablet so they did it differently and made it a mobile OS.
Yeah I think you are correct. The only difference is apple could probably make this work. I guess what I was thinking was osx still requiring a keyboard and mouse and ios still remaining touch.
Total BS. Not gonna happen.
An ipad in a 12" MacBook Air form factor with the trackpad morphed into a home button though could be awesome. Why do these 3d renders keep putting the home button on the left side and camera on the right? Camera should be top centre.
Run full ios at a new resolution, Screen like two adjacent retina minis but 16:9 ratio. Run ipad apps at x2 and letterboxed. Launch with OSwide custom UI for new resolution including all apple apps that take advantage of the new resolution. Add ports that effectively are built in SD card and USB adapter cables, headphone jack and MagSafe power, (no thunderbolt since not intel), dedicated keys as per regular apple keyboard 802.11ac wifi and either 128 or 256GB and you're good to go.
Market a revamped time capsule with built in icloud sync to make direct wired connections to external hdds redundant.
An ipad in a 12" MacBook Air form factor with the trackpad morphed into a home button though could be awesome. Why do these 3d renders keep putting the home button on the left side and camera on the right? Camera should be top centre.
Run full ios at a new resolution, Screen like two adjacent retina minis but 16:9 ratio. Run ipad apps at x2 and letterboxed. Launch with OSwide custom UI for new resolution including all apple apps that take advantage of the new resolution. Add ports that effectively are built in SD card and USB adapter cables, headphone jack and MagSafe power, (no thunderbolt since not intel), dedicated keys as per regular apple keyboard 802.11ac wifi and either 128 or 256GB and you're good to go.
Market a revamped time capsule with built in icloud sync to make direct wired connections to external hdds redundant.
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Why would anyone spend their time making promotional advertisements for products that don't exist by companies they don't work for?
This whole thing is odd.
This whole thing is odd.
If the modbook wasn't insanely expensive, an absolute tank to drag around, an unreliable performer, and didn't require a stylus, it might have been. Apple obviously took a unique approach in popularizing the iPad as a simplified light-duty mobile device and it was great. They even went smaller and that was great too. But now to go larger:
1. A large-size iPad isn't going to be marketed as a portable device. It's going to be the kind of thing you use at a desk or on a couch, and spend some time doing some actual real creative work on. ...lending itself more to OS X than iOS.
2. The criticisms apple have discussed regarding OSX on a touchscreen can be experienced by using a screen sharing VNC app. But after you experience how useless it is on an iPhone-sized screen, then get used to what a slight hassle it is on an ipad Mini, and then try it on a full size iPad. You'll notice it improves considerably as the size of the display increases.
OSX on a 13" screen may be perfectly usable. It certainly wasn't the weak point of the original modbooks we tried out.
I think most people miss that small detail.
People also miss the point of the OS on a "pro" pad--an idea which has been developing for years. A pro iPad might merely expand iOS to be something fuller to become more like a desktop OS. On the other hand, they might trim off OSX and modify it to "fit" a pro desktop.
And, there is also the possibility that Apple will experiment with the pad form and trim down the Airbook to become a pad. If you look into an Airbook, it is mostly battery and casing. The motherboard is a sliver like in the iPads.
A Macbook Air could easily become a pad, a pad could easily become a desktop; it's just a packaging and marketing choice at this moment. Apple might also do nothing.
one of the worst concepts i have seen tbh. The bezels were different sizes which is quite amateurish and frankly the way it was used was not inspiring.
A way that osx could work as a desktop for touch is tap and drag for menu options and double finger drag from the top for notifications.
but people are right the majority of osx programs really arent optimised for touch, this would and will require a lot of work. If this is the direction Apple decides to go then for there to be any useful programs a complete redesign will be needed, this takes time.
But I would still buy one as Apple would do it right unlike this concept.
A way that osx could work as a desktop for touch is tap and drag for menu options and double finger drag from the top for notifications.
but people are right the majority of osx programs really arent optimised for touch, this would and will require a lot of work. If this is the direction Apple decides to go then for there to be any useful programs a complete redesign will be needed, this takes time.
But I would still buy one as Apple would do it right unlike this concept.
I'm pretty sure if MS gets Windows Pro improved stepwise to work more and more in the direction users want to the degree where then their touch laptops/tablets/convertibles start selling better and better and/or Android tablets continue to sell in larger and larger quantities than iPads, at some point Apple will do something about it, no matter at all what they say on the topic right now.
Apple before releasing the iPad mini acted as if it was the most hilarious stupid idea to release a tablet in that form factor, back when they didn't have one ready and the competition did.
Similar story with a larger phone and we already saw them changing their stance for that partially and probably will see em backpedalling from that stance way more this year.
Of course they would say its all nonsense until they have a good offering ready, that's how Apple has been doing it for many years.
Thing is, while something in the direction of an iPad with more pro features or a laptop/convertible with touch support will likely (have to) come from Apple at some point, this "concept" video is not a good visualisation for it.
A good concept video actually showing some nice concepts for how one could do something like that would be neat, this video is just doesn't take that very far.
Just adding a wireless keyboard and mouse and swiping around on the dock doesn't make mac OS touch friendly nor does it automatically make that a nice device to have/want.
In a way i feel like maybe that's a bit how it happened that windows rt/windows 8 pro was released in that form: Someone made a blinky metro startscreen which looks fresh at first glance, they said great concept and went ahead with it, without properly thinking and implementing it through what all else HAS to be done to make it really well usable with mouse and keyboard and touch.
Hence then it missing the most basic fundamental features users of either side would expect from such a hybrid OS/device,
like that control hit areas become larger when using with touch, or that when pressing an input textfield with the finger (no matter if on the desktop or somewhere else) it should then automatically bring up the onscreen keyboard or one should be able to use pinch to zoom anywhere or that one should be able to run metro apps on the desktop and be able to resize them freely and when using things with keyboard and mouse on a larger screen in workmode, suddenly fullscreen enforced apps are generally a way less good idea and people then expect to be able to do everything with an app/window they expect to be able to do with a window on their desktop OS.
Or also things like that noone in the windows tablet/convertible world has figured out an ideal way yet for what to do with the hardware keyboard so that it doesn't get in the way when using the thing like a tablet, but is ready and as good to use as a laptop keyboard when wanting to use it and one should not have to carry around additional separate pieces like a tablet and detachable keyboard.
Its neither an ideal solution to fold a always connected hardware keyboard to the back of the screen in tablet mode so that one feels the keys on the back when using it like a tablet, nor is a solution like the surface ideal where one has to carry around a detachable keyboard, no matter how thin it is.
Actually its bad that the surface keyboard is so thin, it would be much better if it was thicker (maybe by having a large battery in it), so that one could at least when its connected have it be as main weight center so that one could then angle the screen to any angle without the thing falling over. Just having an extra stand which one can only use in two angles is lame.
So yeah, i'm not against someone doing a concept video, it can be very cool when done well and when you think about it, many devices we now have are to some extend based on concepts previously presented in sci fie movies/series, but yeah, this concept video just ends where the good concepts parts should start to get thought about and be shown.
A proper concept should at least show some visualisation for how such problems could be tackled.
Apple before releasing the iPad mini acted as if it was the most hilarious stupid idea to release a tablet in that form factor, back when they didn't have one ready and the competition did.
Similar story with a larger phone and we already saw them changing their stance for that partially and probably will see em backpedalling from that stance way more this year.
Of course they would say its all nonsense until they have a good offering ready, that's how Apple has been doing it for many years.
Thing is, while something in the direction of an iPad with more pro features or a laptop/convertible with touch support will likely (have to) come from Apple at some point, this "concept" video is not a good visualisation for it.
A good concept video actually showing some nice concepts for how one could do something like that would be neat, this video is just doesn't take that very far.
Just adding a wireless keyboard and mouse and swiping around on the dock doesn't make mac OS touch friendly nor does it automatically make that a nice device to have/want.
In a way i feel like maybe that's a bit how it happened that windows rt/windows 8 pro was released in that form: Someone made a blinky metro startscreen which looks fresh at first glance, they said great concept and went ahead with it, without properly thinking and implementing it through what all else HAS to be done to make it really well usable with mouse and keyboard and touch.
Hence then it missing the most basic fundamental features users of either side would expect from such a hybrid OS/device,
like that control hit areas become larger when using with touch, or that when pressing an input textfield with the finger (no matter if on the desktop or somewhere else) it should then automatically bring up the onscreen keyboard or one should be able to use pinch to zoom anywhere or that one should be able to run metro apps on the desktop and be able to resize them freely and when using things with keyboard and mouse on a larger screen in workmode, suddenly fullscreen enforced apps are generally a way less good idea and people then expect to be able to do everything with an app/window they expect to be able to do with a window on their desktop OS.
Or also things like that noone in the windows tablet/convertible world has figured out an ideal way yet for what to do with the hardware keyboard so that it doesn't get in the way when using the thing like a tablet, but is ready and as good to use as a laptop keyboard when wanting to use it and one should not have to carry around additional separate pieces like a tablet and detachable keyboard.
Its neither an ideal solution to fold a always connected hardware keyboard to the back of the screen in tablet mode so that one feels the keys on the back when using it like a tablet, nor is a solution like the surface ideal where one has to carry around a detachable keyboard, no matter how thin it is.
Actually its bad that the surface keyboard is so thin, it would be much better if it was thicker (maybe by having a large battery in it), so that one could at least when its connected have it be as main weight center so that one could then angle the screen to any angle without the thing falling over. Just having an extra stand which one can only use in two angles is lame.
So yeah, i'm not against someone doing a concept video, it can be very cool when done well and when you think about it, many devices we now have are to some extend based on concepts previously presented in sci fie movies/series, but yeah, this concept video just ends where the good concepts parts should start to get thought about and be shown.
A proper concept should at least show some visualisation for how such problems could be tackled.
My MacBook Air lasts 15 hours on a single change.
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Yup, this is something I could see happening, and would love to see.
I don't see the point either.
The trackpad on all MacBooks does a marvellous job for general tasks on OS X. A mouse or a Wacom for precision work. My fingers simply lack the precision needed for the pro tools I use on OS X.
The trackpad on all MacBooks does a marvellous job for general tasks on OS X. A mouse or a Wacom for precision work. My fingers simply lack the precision needed for the pro tools I use on OS X.
That doesn't mean anything. According to Steve Jobs, neither a 4" iPhone nor an 8" iPad Mini were ever supposed to happen because the 3.5" and 9.7" models had the perfect size and nothing else would make sense. Apparently, there was a change of mind only a few months after his statement. And that was not the only time in Apple's history.
Apple makes money with the iOS ecosystem, OS X is only an afterthought. You don't have to be a genius to know where this is going.
There is no logical use for this. A 13" pad form factor to lay flat on the table? It can't stand up on its own. And the physical weight of a 13" display with laptop guts shoved inside is going to be too much to solely rely on a smart cover to support it standing up. Now if there was a lightning to mini display port and it could plug into the monitor behind the iPad in the movie then I could see a dual boot idea being attractive but why not just have a Mac mini or iMac at home? I love my iPad Air, but it will never replace a laptop for work functionality. I don't want to tote around wireless keyboards when I can tote around my MacBook Air and have a far superior keyboard and user experience for work productivity with almost near same physical size.
Guys,
the best move they could make is releasing something like the Panasonic Toughpad 4K Tablet with OS X. 19" screen perfectly usable for desktop use and Wacom support for pen input when needed. All this with plain OS X, of course. No need for touch optimization.