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Is a RUMOR ... And Apple isn't doing much of anything in the RELEASING COOL STUFF category...last thing announced was in October-November. Not much out there for he "shut up and take my money!" Crowd.
 
That doesn't mean anything. According to Steve Jobs, neither a 4" iPhone nor an 8" iPad Mini were ever supposed to happen because the 3.5" and 9.7" models had the perfect size and nothing else would make sense. Apparently, there was a change of mind only a few months after his statement. And that was not the only time in Apple's history.

Apple makes money with the iOS ecosystem, OS X is only an afterthought. You don't have to be a genius to know where this is going.

IMO those still are the perfect sizes IMO, the iPad air is great, the mini is too small, and the iPhone 5 is large and uncomfortable to hold compared to the 4 (the best iPhone I think).

And no, I don't really know where this is going, since every case you imply (OSX/iOS unification, ending of OSX, ending of non-touch inputs etc etc) is pretty much a terrible idea for Apple, long term.
 
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Rrrubbish.

Congratulations SET on producing a half-way decently made fake video of a non-existant product.

Do you take orders? I would like to have a concept video of a coffee machine running OS X. That would be about as truthful, but at least amusing.
 
aren't the "regular" iPads visualized in Vertical format by Apple?

I don't see this happening.
 
Is a RUMOR ... And Apple isn't doing much of anything in the RELEASING COOL STUFF category...last thing announced was in October-November. Not much out there for he "shut up and take my money!" Crowd.

It's a concept video from an analyst, that is quite a bit less than a rumor.

That being said, you're completely right.
 
Here we go.

Shouldn't Apple have already realized desktop based OS's are horrible on mobile devices?

They already have, that is why iOS exists. These people just haven't gotten the memo yet.

The only way we will see an OS X device running on touchscreen hardware is when it is not OS X, but OS XI (Or more likely some new name.) There is just way too much stuff that would be a pain to use on a touchscreen right now in OS X - tiny buttons in every single app, tiny menu items, support for only one touch point, on screen keyboard covering up content, etc. OS X needs a major overhaul before allowing touch, if it ever gets it.
 
Some folks like to go nuts and have fun with video editing software, oftentimes to show off their skills rather than to produce anything meaningful. I understand because I do the same thing on Photoshop sometimes when I get bored :D
 
Apple Has an Research and Development team to make all kinds of prototypes. I would not at all be surprised if they also had a Mac Pro somewhere running a flavor of iOS. That's how you do Research, and develop new products, by trying all kinds of variations. Just as an example, Didn't Steve Jobs say that Mac OS X had been running on x86 in their labs for a number of years BEFORE migrating to Intel? the R&D boys & girls wouldn't be doing their jobs if they weren't trying out all kinds of things. Most of these won't see the light of day though. (I doubt we will see OS X on a tablet... that would be copying Windows 8 and we've seen how well that has worked out for MS)
 
I love how the ÜberPad was propped up awkwardly against a real desktop.
Thats the problem with using a touch interface with a keyboard and mouse (which is a dubious "feature").

->You end up needing a stand.
But you still want to touch things and the pad gets wobbly so
-> You need a sturdy stand
But you get tired of working on a small screen
or want an additional monitor
-> So you get a desktop monitor

I say meh. This product really doesn't do anything well. Better off sticking with iOS and OSX.
 
If the Axiotron Modbook had been ultra-popular, then Apple might have shipped a touch-screen OS X device.
It wasn't, Apple didn't, and no it's probably still not a super-good idea.

http://www.modbook.com/modbookpro/

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Oh, and if Windows 8 had been ultra-popular, then Apple might have shipped a mashup of OS X and iOS.
It wasn't, Apple didn't, and yes it's probably still a stupid idea.
Just ask The Ghost of Steve Ballmer.

I would take the Modbook over THAT due to the accurate Wacom pen digitizer for professional reasons. iPad does not have pressure sensitivity except for some 3rd party pen manufacturers doing that as a 'go around'. Is it expensive? Of course since it's a full blown OS X system capable of running high end applications such as Photoshop or Corel Painter.

EDIT: This thing is ideal for creative professionals using the pen to visualize storyboards, illustrations, photo manipulation, etc. NOT with a finger. The Wacom Cintiq is another alternative but it's limited when it comes to the Android and Windows OS ( the latter is fully capable of running any high end software ).

After all, Steve ran Pixar and his people that worked under him did NOT use their fingers to make 3D animated films. He's the one that BLEW IT if he knew that creative apps were going to end up on the iPad forcing people to use fingers. He should have had the VISION to SEE that coming and anticipate the needed pressure sensitivity for such creative professionals. Now don't get into the argument of why he wanted it all to be about 'touch' and I completely get what he's trying to do but when it comes to precision work, the stylus pen beats out the finger.

And that's why Wacom is king of pressure sensitive tablets. I know because I happen to own the Intuos 4 tablet for digital creative work. The iPad does NOT. COME. EVEN. CLOSE. to the natural sensitivity and customization.

But no. Apple had to make it go thinner and thinner. So the only way for pressure sensitivity to work, the device will have to be thicker again and the company will have to backtrack and say " The NEW iPad is unapologetically THICKER! ".

So, in that sense it will not surprise me when tablets will become full blown computers. It's obvious here. From the PC, laptops came into the scene and started catching up. Laptops now have 'desktop' class capabilities. Soon, tablets ( and not just Apple alone ) will end up with 'desktop' class specs. It might not be today, but that day will come.
 
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Yeah I think you are correct. The only difference is apple could probably make this work. I guess what I was thinking was osx still requiring a keyboard and mouse and ios still remaining touch.

The way Apple makes things work that haven't before is by changing them to something else. If they tried to reinvent the iPad by copying what windows tablets had done for years and failed at they still wouldn't be successful. Just the fact that it is made by Apple might get it a few more sales than a lot of those older windows tablets ever got, but not enough that anyone would consider it to be a success.
 
If it would support pen sensitive pressure for drawing I would buy this tomorrow.


BTW I LOVE how people are saying this would flop. I remember when the iPad was only conjecture and rumor and everyone clamored how it was a bad idea.
 
It makes no sense to merge the operating systems and they never will. Rather, the physical keyboard will eventually be dropped a la Star Trek TNG.
 
Touch targets for mobile are very very different for click targets for desktop OSes.

#Fail.

Exactly.

If there has to be any convergence, then I'd rather see a big iPad Pro which is dockable so you just sit it into a stand and use a full-size keyboard and mouse. It could even run OSX when docked (so your documents and iOS apps are on the iPad, while OSX and OSX apps are on internal storage in the dock).
 
Touch targets for mobile are very very different for click targets for desktop OSes.

One way to merge the two paradigms is to use an iPad as the trackpad and CPU for an large external monitor. Essentially making the iPad into an arm64 Mac Mini-Micro and a smart Magic TrackPad all-in-one. Can a Lightning accessory drive a large enough monitor?
 
I hate to be critical of this company's work... But that really was a terrible video. The device was very generic looking. It didn't look particularly Apple-esque. No real interaction with the device was shown. The "demo" gave me no feel of what I can do on that device. It spent too much time on being a cool video than being a useful demonstration. And the effects looked amteurish.

Anyways, I still doubt that Apple will ever go that route. If you think about it, bringing OS X to a touch screen device would require changes to the basic way we interact with the OS. This would require a new touch layer or mode. This would be a kin to how Microsoft added Metro on top of Windows 7 in order to accomodate both touch and non touch devices, and we see how well that worked out. Its better to keep a distrinction between these modes than to try and blend them (in my opinion)...

One thing that I think would be more interesting to explore (though highly unlikely) is a MacBook type machine where when the screen is detached it turns into an iPad like device running iOS but while docked runs Mac OS X (x86 hardware located in the keyboard/base, arm hardware in the screen).

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Apple Has an Research and Development team to make all kinds of prototypes. I would not at all be surprised if they also had a Mac Pro somewhere running a flavor of iOS. That's how you do Research, and develop new products, by trying all kinds of variations. Just as an example, Didn't Steve Jobs say that Mac OS X had been running on x86 in their labs for a number of years BEFORE migrating to Intel? the R&D boys & girls wouldn't be doing their jobs if they weren't trying out all kinds of things. Most of these won't see the light of day though. (I doubt we will see OS X on a tablet... that would be copying Windows 8 and we've seen how well that has worked out for MS)

I would not be surprised if there was a MacBook air with an Arm Processor running the full desktop version of OS X somewhere on Apple's campus. (Not unlike project Star Trek, which you mentionned). With the improvements we've seen with the Arm architecture, and Apple's push for a 64 bit version, I could see them potentially migrating to that as a cheaper, more power efficient alternative to x86. Of course, then I'd have to buy all new applications again... Ugh...
 
If it would support pen sensitive pressure for drawing I would buy this tomorrow.


BTW I LOVE how people are saying this would flop. I remember when the iPad was only conjecture and rumor and everyone clamored how it was a bad idea.

BTW I love how a lot of people said the Surface would flop, and it did.
 
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