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Congressman Leading Tech Antitrust Investigation Says July Hearing Confirms 'Deeply Disturbing Behavior'

wood1208 said:
These politicians have screwed American companies in the name of anti-trust while Chinese companies are growing leaps and bounds with the help from their Chinese government. American politicians are the real problems for hindering the success of American ingenuity. Get rid of uninformed, moron politicians and America will be much better.
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It's more about companies that grown so big they prevent smaller companies from prospering. They just keep buying other companies. Small companies are the backbone of our industry and larger companies prevent them ever being really successful and be able to compete.
 
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-DMN- said:
No it’s not. Nothing wrong with native Apple applications.
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Perhaps, but that is why Apple created Claris years ago and pushed their own applications to a separate company.

Apple once again created their own applications because software developers weren't making any progress. Premiere Pro was all but dead on MacOS, and Adobe didn't really care to do more. Microsoft Office was equally behind the Windows version.
 
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shapesinaframe said:
If Apple is forced off their own App Store, they’ll probably just create a new “Apple Apps” app built into iOS/MacOS to list all their apps. Might actually help them get more people using their apps 😆
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No Big Cie. will be on Apple store and pay 30% if they can host the App for nothing on their store.
 
Anyone who has spent time reading into these issues even on a surface level will understand that yes, what these companies are doing, Apple included, is getting a bit out of hand.

But I don’t expect anyone here to realize that. Because you people can’t do research of your own or even think critically for a second. Yes it’s Apple’s platform but it doesn’t mean what they’re doing is right.

You are all so quick to bash literally every other single tech company, but can’t criticize Apple on one thing. Apple is starting to repeat the same exact mistake Microsoft made in the 90s and I’m sure you’ll all gladly **** all over them because it’s Microsoft. But apple doing the same exact thing? Nah, ya’ll dig extra hard and do the craziest backflips to defend them.

It’s a company. You can enjoy and use their products and criticize things you have issues with at the same time.
 
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crawfish963 said:
AT&T is larger, more valuable, and more diversified than Bell Telephone ever was.
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Southwestern Bell has come a long way since the break-up, consuming PacTel, BellSouth, Ameritech, and more.

They even complained that the original iPhone users were ruining their network,
 
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Realityck said:
It's more about companies that grown so big they prevent smaller companies from prospering. They just keep buying other companies. Small companies are the backbone of our industry and larger companies prevent them ever being really successful and be able to compete.
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Big corps always get lazy or inefficient after a while. Small companies can always compete. If they don't want to sell out, they don't have to. Happens all the time, like with Uber and Tesla.

Problem is the big corps get preferential tax treatment and other things from the government that small ones can never get. Like US bailouts, Ireland tax havens, defense contracts, heavy-handed regulations that raise the bar of entry, the Obamacare tax on self-employed individuals, and US states just paying Apple or Amazon to set up there.

Small corps can't lobby. Any government action that interferes with the market is probably in favor of a big corp.
 
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edgonzalez32 said:
Yes it’s Apple’s platform but it doesn’t mean what they’re doing is right.
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And here you are claiming what the developers are doing is right. It is Apple's platform, and Epic doesn't have rights. They have privileges. Just like driving a car or going out on a school night. They misbehaved and they should be punished. Their business isn't based on an unalienable right to make games for iOS. OK, so some out of touch judge told Apple they can't ban unreal games. Maybe they push out a system update that breaks unreal. Maybe Google introduces a chrome bug that redirects searches for Fortnite to Overwatch. Maybe Sony reverses course and no longer allows crossplay. Maybe Steam asks for 70% for online games that don't make their source-code available for commercial use. All of these things are reasonable because it's their platform.
 
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silentdevotion said:
It's amazing how I got attacked on here for stating the same thing, equality is about treating every developer fair. Apple is know to abuse this power, hopefully it brings better change to the App Store.
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Curious... what would you propose as better “change” regarding the App Store?

Apples apps taken off? Having to namely search for Apples apps otherwise they are hidden? Having a warning that tells folks which apps are Apples - like a California lead warning? Because we are taking about how companies develop a platform and then compete in it... how would they recommend Apple provide a service on their own devices? A separate Apple store? I’m honestly wondering where the issue is and how you would “fix it”.
 
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Rainshadow said:
Curious... what would you propose as better “change” regarding the App Store?

Apples apps taken off? Having to namely search for Apples apps otherwise they are hidden? Having a warning that tells folks which apps are Apples - like a California lead warning? Because we are taking about how companies develop a platform and then compete in it... how would they recommend Apple provide a service on their own devices? A separate Apple store? I’m honestly wondering where the issue is and how you would “fix it”.
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We can go back to the days of default apps that can't be changed or deleted.
 
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The disconnect between Apple's future and their market cap is fascinating.

Do people really look at Apple and think it's a sound investment? It's a company that receives 60% of its profits directly from a 13 year old product line that's had falling sales volume for years. It wants to grow in directions that are being questioned by multiple branches of multiple governments across the planet.

Or is this all passive investing?

What is it that lead Apple to this point? Are they totally oblivious to what happened to monopolies in the past? Didn't any lawyers come in and point out when AT&T was busted up, or when movie studios lost their ability to operate theaters? Or does Apple think they have enough money that they can win in court against the federal government (or drag the fight out long enough for the outcome to not matter?)

Does Apple realize that their brand is possibily their single greatest asset, and they've been steadily increasing the pace that they're dragging it through the mud?
 
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ArtOfWarfare said:
Does Apple realize that their brand is possibily their single greatest asset, and they've been steadily increasing the pace that they're dragging it through the mud?
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This whole thing reminds me of the Atari / Nintendo saga. Apple saved mobile devices but as the company grew developers started acting like they should have a say.
 
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For one, I think Google, Amazon and Facebook really abused their position and it needs to be looked at. Apple is by far the less worst of the 4, did it was anti-competitive at times, of course, every company that can, tries to.
 
Rainshadow said:
Curious... what would you propose as better “change” regarding the App Store?
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Permit third party app stores and refine the IAP requirements.

Imagine if Walmart had the same rules that Apple does. When you buy an iPhone from Walmart, every single iOS App purchased on it had a 30% fee that went to Walmart. That'd be insane.

At the same time though, Walmart isn't full of free products from companies hoping to make money off of IAP later. I'm not sure what the right balance to strike is, but a properly functioning free market can figure that out for us. Permit third party app stores and see what rules end up emerging at each of them.

I wonder if Apple will be permitted to keep the iOS App Store. They were the immoral idiots who didn't properly regulate themselves though, so they get what they deserve when the government comes and breaks them up. The government may determine that only third party app stores are allowed to exist from now on, just like movie studios lost the ability to own movie theaters.
 
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DummyFool said:
For one, I think Google, Amazon and Facebook really abused their position and it needs to be looked at. Apple is by far the less worst of the 4, did it was anti-competitive at times, of course, every company that can, tries to.
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Not all companies are immoral all the time. Sometimes they recognize the government is casting a spotlight on them, and they get their act together and regulate themselves before the government has to step in.

The video game industry did this, for example, adopting their age rating system before the US government got involved and gummed everything up.

Apple could have similarly fixed their monopolistic practices, but instead seems determined to fight everyone on it. This seems like a gross example of hubris on their part. Given the glacial speed that Apple moves at - WWDC came and went without any fix for the App Store monopoly - I think the government might just order the App Store be spun off into a separate company before Apple has a chance to fix it.
 
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silentdevotion said:
It's amazing how I got attacked on here for stating the same thing, equality is about treating every developer fair. Apple is know to abuse this power, hopefully it brings better change to the App Store.
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I stand with you! So many people on here blindly agreeing with the most valuable company on the planet. They don’t care about us. Only want our money. Never really understood why people stand up for soulless corporations.
 
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btrach144 said:
I stand with you! So many people on here blindly agreeing with the most valuable company on the planet. They don’t care about us. Only want our money. Never really understood why people stand up for soulless corporations.
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Because people who have worked for things generally side with people who have done the same. Epic can't say that. Apple can.
 
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