You understand that back then developers were barely making 30% for their software. And not the entire industry is charging 30%
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Why? Spotify has multiple platforms available. If they hook a new subscription via the web, Apple doesn't get a cut. Same with Sony, or XBox or Switch ( are they on switch)?
But can’t you sign up for Spotify on their website and use their payment system?
The difference is I have to go to their website, set up the account, put in my credit card info vs just downloading the app, tapping subscribe, double clicking the side button (I still don’t like that compared to Touch ID), and I’m done.
I’m sure Spotify gets a lot more subscribers through the App Store than through the website, even if there is a discount.
This. This is precisely why my mom, grandma, brother and myself use iPhones. We trust the App Store. The fact that I am on this site means I am different than them, so I can move to Android if things get messed up. But some of my family and friends were on Android and got a lot of bad apps, then moved to iPhone JUST for the locked down experience.
That is essentially what an iPhone is for a lot of people. And there are some here that want to take that away.
I agree. I currently just deal with companies I have trusted for years on Mac OS. Also some small developers but it's because I personally know them And use one-time payment numbers with them. Imagine when it opens up. You would need the Epic, Origin (EA), MS, UPlay, Steam, Stadia store for games.
Well, who would subscribe to Apple Arcade, if they can have Games like Cyberpunk 2077 elsewhere... 😁
I am sure Adobe and Affinity will have their own stores too.
And there you go! More subscribers through Apple's platform. Why won't Spotify do what Netflix did? They did the in-app purchase for a while and when they got big enough they stopped. They are big enough that people know to get Netflix via their website. Also funny how Spotify has an issue with fees to Apple but not to the New York Times. When you sign up for NYT they offer you Spotify as some discounted cost. You know the Times is getting a cut for the subscription plus a monthly. You know why... cause it is standard across the industry for decades!
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Who would be stupid to purchase Cyberpunk to play it on a mobile device.
The other thing is who’s to say those apps aren’t tampered with malware? Wasn’t there an issue recently with apps and a fake or expired certificate on macOS?
I’m running a 2011 mini so no recent apps affect me.
Agreed. Long term I believe this will be better for smaller companies and drive innovation. And I’m a freaking Apple fan boy who spend 7k in Apple products in 2020. Don’t ask lol
So, what, Apple won't be allowed to release, say, their Photos app anymore cuz there are other photo apps available on the App Store? They gonna have to stop developing Final Cut Pro because it's not fair to Adobe? What if I, as the consumer, WANT to use Apple's apps over other developers? Do I get a say in any of this? I mean, sure, stop Apple from bullying out other apps that do the same thing theirs do, but don't stop them from developing their own apps altogether.
Not that I agree that the line should be drawn here and really want to fence sit, the logic I guess would be:
If anyone creates a game streaming platform (not necessarily Microsoft) that's easy to use, has a secondary payment system and has unfiltered access to their own content, two things would likely happen:
1) They create streaming tiers and charge different amounts for different games / genres etc. Maybe they even charge game streaming on a game by game basis, effectively creating their own app store.
2) One of those genres eventually becomes an unfiltered porn channel. (I'm not saying this is a bad thing, just it runs counter to Apple's clinical intention for the App Store)
This is a wild extrapolation and Apple could and should deal with those kinds of issues as and when they come, but guess really they're just trying to be as intransigent as possible now to avoid headaches in the future.
But on topic ...
it's near impossible for Apple to run a platform and not engage in it, otherwise your new iPhone will be a blank screen with a single blue App Store icon with which you have to install a 3rd party app for any conceivable function. Either that or they fill the phone to the brim with their own software and get accused of being anti competitive anyway
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The act they want to pass looks great. Move all Apple apps to a separate entity/company. Let them complete with others on the App store with same 30% cut. Let people decide.
Don’t forget ATT / Bell was broken up. This is a good thing. We need to break up these tech monopolies. Especially on Mobile. And we need to break up cable internet monopolies. Break up power company monopolies preventing cities from installing LED lights...
Monopolies aren’t a good thing- we have countless examples of the Us breaking them up. We the consumers benefit greatly
Monopolies aren’t a good thing- we have countless examples of the Us breaking them up. We the consumers benefit greatly
I guess there will be some kind of EU VS Windows Media Player rule. Microsoft was at some point ordered to sell a version of Windows in the EU where a person could choose their preferred media player at install time. Microsoft only sold a few hundred copies of it in the first few years in the entire EU. Windows N is still available, but other than Wikipedia nobody knows about it.
Cant do anything when Republicans control the senate and the White House. If democrats get the super majority something will definitely be done about social media and responsibility of their users
Can you explain how Apple is a monopoly?
I’m not seeing it. If I want a cellular device (not a necessity), I can choose from many different brands and 2 OSs. If I do go with iOS, I don’t have to use Apple services. And I know many that don’t, even though Apple’s are sometimes seamless and easier to use.
Am I missing something? Maybe I’m not a power user so I’m not getting it.
That's political. All I will say is people hate Alex Jones because the people hate the hearing the inconvenient truth.
People/groups like Alex Jones, Paul Watson, Candice Owens, PragerU, Jacinta Price etc etc all deserve to have their say on the same platforms that the left-wing speech currently are on.
The fact that the mainstream platforms are trying to silence them is really speaking loud and clear. The silent majority are taking note of this.
Also what they want is totally off the rails too.
Remember when Jobs was pushing for council approval for the spaceship new Apple campus to be built? The council asked him, can you provide us all free WiFi? Like wtf? Seriously? So out of touch the bureaucrats are.
I honestly think these people don't know what's the right outcome. I'm sure they think they know it all, when in reality they have zero clue.
All of these kind of hearings should be based on independant expert opinion. People who actually know a thing or two about market regulation and global economies. It's no different to the global summits on health which are just a room of politicians and zero scientists or health experts in sight. Just a couple examples of many.
That's showing your political bias and totally ignoring the core issue here.
Also if you believe a democrat run US goverment, will magically fix the issues here, you are really dreaming. Neither side on their own will fix the issue.
The core issue is the rulings whould not be based on politicians opinions, regardless of which side of the fence they come from. The rulings should be based on expert opinion. In this case market regulation and global economists are the experts.
You haven't been here long have you?
Most of us here are very willing to point out all of Apple's flaws and mistakes over the decades.
Politically though this is a mostly one sided forum that think's their side is more perfect than God. But for Apple, yeah we all talk about Apple's successes and failures equally as much.
Wake up, look where these companies you are defending are producing their goods. They are doing absolutely nothing to strength the American economy, other than using their HQ location to advertise with „Designed in California“. Most of their money resides outside US, and they also don‘t have plans to transfer it to the US.