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I totally would expect that Apple would seed rumours in the channel to see where the leaks are coming from, and to freak out the competition.

They were looking for a new security person a few years ago. Perhaps they are using false rumours to just screw with people... It would be fun, and also a way, perhaps, to judge market acceptance of a proposed feature or new product.
 
Associate with an s5 must recharge before the end of the day. If bigger batteries are better then said friend would not have to carry a charger around.

Heavy cellular use does not deplete my 5s battery and it would last at least 36 hours on normal usage.

Its impossible to have heavy cellular usage on a 5S between charges for 36 hours. The least amount of power used while using cellular is on a phone call and the iPhone 5S can get around 9 hours with an extremely strong signal. That leaves 27 hours of absolutely nothing.

Your example with your associate is a little silly and I'm actually surprised you (knowing you from this forum) used it. If he used an iPhone he would still need to charge it, just twice as much.

How low on these charts does the iPhone need to be? Must we really wait until even the battery life is worst in class before Apple changes it? We are passed the point of people saying "PPI doesn't matter", "Megapixels don't matter", "Cores don't matter", "RAM doesn't matter" etc etc are we really at the point where we our saying "How long before the battery dies doesn't matter"?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/5
 
Its impossible to have heavy cellular usage on a 5S between charges for 36 hours. The least amount of power used while using cellular is on a phone call and the iPhone 5S can get around 9 hours with an extremely strong signal. That leaves 27 hours of absolutely nothing.

Your example with your associate is a little silly and I'm actually surprised you (knowing you from this forum) used it. If he used an iPhone he would still need to charge it, just twice as much.

How low on these charts does the iPhone need to be? Must we really wait until even the battery life is worst in class before Apple changes it? We are passed the point of people saying "PPI doesn't matter", "Megapixels don't matter", "Cores don't matter", "RAM doesn't matter" etc etc are we really at the point where we our saying "How long before the battery dies doesn't matter"?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/5

9 hours of cell phone usage is about the max. Heavy would be 5 hours. I've kept my paws off my iPhone when I was sick, in 25 hours I lost a few percent on wifi. I think it's doable.

My point about the associate has to do with the iPhone bashing and so called "smallish" battery on the 5s. A bigger battery doesn't always make for longer, extended usage, which is what I was getting to. A lot of complex factors go into how fast your battery depletes even including bugs in third party apps.
 
9 hours of cell phone usage is about the max. Heavy would be 5 hours. I've kept my paws off my iPhone when I was sick, in 25 hours I lost a few percent on wifi. I think it's doable.

My point about the associate has to do with the iPhone bashing and so called "smallish" battery on the 5s. A bigger battery doesn't always make for longer, extended usage, which is what I was getting to. A lot of complex factors go into how fast your battery depletes even including bugs in third party apps.

Increasing mAh (size in capacity and thus physically) is pretty much a perfect multiplication with how long it last short of some losses due to heat from usage which are there regardless of size.

If a bug in the software causes a battery to die in 2 hours it will cause a battery twice its size to die in 4 hours.

A bigger battery will always extend usage and standby time given the same variables the previous battery had.

I'm all for an efficient OS and efficient hardware but if my phone can only get 5-6 hours of usage I don't care about that stuff. Thats great they managed to get that much life out of a small (comparatively speaking) battery. Give me an efficient phone when it cost 10 dollars to charge it, until then get me one that last for a long time by whatever means possible.

Another thing about efficiency. How efficient is iOS anyway? iPad 4 should absolutely crush the Note 10.1 in every aspect of battery life. The iPad 4 has iOS 7 and it has a whopping 11,666 mAh battery. The Note 10.1 has inefficient Android whatever version with a tiny 8,022 mAh battery. But somehow in web browsing test the Note 10.1 beats the iPad? Hmmmm

Albeit some test are the iPad 4 easily wins, but if iOS was soooo much more efficient then that should be a no contest in any benchmark given the shear size of the battery in the iPad. I used those two as examples because similar screen size with the Apple device having a larger battery for a change.
 
Here you go. Excuse the quality it's from my iPhone.

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Hmm I think you're right. I'm dumb and haven't noticed this at all. Nice catch.

At the 36 second mark, he holds up the new front plate and a 5S and you can see how much smaller the bezels are in the Iphone 6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iEYhGcrgYc

Hate to tell you guys this, but as with all iOS devices, there is a little black border surrounding the display of the iPhone 5s, so the bezel looks a little bigger (since the iPhone 5s shown in the video is a black one), also the final iPhone 6 will most likely have an extra structure surrounding the display so the bezel of the iPhone 6 will also be a little bigger.

All in all, the bezel will be a little slimmer than previous iPhones, but just not that dramatic as shown in that picture.
 
Increasing mAh (size in capacity and thus physically) is pretty much a perfect multiplication with how long it last short of some losses due to heat from usage which are there regardless of size.

If a bug in the software causes a battery to die in 2 hours it will cause a battery twice its size to die in 4 hours.

A bigger battery will always extend usage and standby time given the same variables the previous battery had.

I'm all for an efficient OS and efficient hardware but if my phone can only get 5-6 hours of usage I don't care about that stuff. Thats great they managed to get that much life out of a small (comparatively speaking) battery. Give me an efficient phone when it cost 10 dollars to charge it, until then get me one that last for a long time by whatever means possible.

Another thing about efficiency. How efficient is iOS anyway? iPad 4 should absolutely crush the Note 10.1 in every aspect of battery life. The iPad 4 has iOS 7 and it has a whopping 11,666 mAh battery. The Note 10.1 has inefficient Android whatever version with a tiny 8,022 mAh battery. But somehow in web browsing test the Note 10.1 beats the iPad? Hmmmm

Albeit some test are the iPad 4 easily wins, but if iOS was soooo much more efficient then that should be a no contest in any benchmark given the shear size of the battery in the iPad. I used those two as examples because similar screen size with the Apple device having a larger battery for a change.

The point you made about the ipad vs note is the same point I'm making about the s5. All things being equal the s5 should outlast my 5s. In this case it doesn't, for whatever issue is with that particular phone.
 
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