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What's Consumer Reports?

A reviewing company that I think is horrible in terms of digital device reviews. They are super-biased against Apple. I'm not referring to this case, though, just the antenna thing and their opposition to Macs for no good reason. Calling CR wrong right now for this case would be fanboyism.

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CR needs to show that it is "working hard" and always looking out for consumers' interests. I have no complaints with the new iPad. Heat? Barely noticeable. The new iPad is simply awesome!

What about the charging thing? It's not really Apple's fault, but it may be a problem. If it's only an issue for those "pro" (loser) iPad gamers, whatever. Infinity Blade II uses all of the iPad's resources, but I don't think anything else does. Now, if it can't charge while playing a video, then we have a problem.
 
A reviewing company that I think is horrible in terms of digital device reviews. They are super-biased against Apple. I'm not referring to this case, though, just the antenna thing and their opposition to Macs for no good reason. Calling CR wrong right now for this case would be fanboyism.

Consumer Reports has given Macs very high ratings. The MBP have been at the top of the pile. The only negative press they have given Apple is the about the iPhone antenna.
 
I'm pretty sure this one is more realistic than the antenna issues. The antenna issues were total BS, and I lost all of my respect for CR at that point, but I think they're actually right here as long as they don't overinflate the story like before.

No, I don't think there is enough information yet to be able to say that this is any less fantasy than the antenna gate problem. You see, my partner and I have been using our iPads almost nonstop since Friday and we are nothing but amazed and enthralled with this amazing product. I have conducted FaceTime chats for long periods of time while charging in the cradle. No charging issues whatsoever. Watched plenty of YouTube videos and played some FPS games - have noticed the unit gets very slightly warm but nothing to even give a second thought.
 
...if there are any actual owners in here, have you used your iPad 3 while plugged into a WALL SOCKET and found that it did not charge during use?

Yes- as I said earlier, I've been using the standard Apple 10W iPad wall charger. It charges during use- barely. Less than 5% per hour.

As for the warmth- when in my leatherette portfolio case, it gets fairly warm. When not in the case, the air circulation keeps it cooler, although still perceptibly warm. It's never been what I would call "hot." But definitely a different experience than the iPad 2.
 
No, I don't think there is enough information yet to be able to say that this is any less fantasy than the antenna gate problem. You see, my partner and I have been using our iPads almost nonstop since Friday and we are nothing but amazed and enthralled with this amazing product. I have conducted FaceTime chats for long periods of time while charging in the cradle. No charging issues whatsoever. Watched plenty of YouTube videos and played some FPS games - have noticed the unit gets very slightly warm but nothing to even give a second thought.

But have you tried doing something really intensive like Infinite Blade II while charging? I mean, at what point in terms of processor usage can it not charge? I don't care about the heat problem as much as this.

Also, you can't use your personal experience and your friend's to call BS on Consumer Reports. I called BS only when I had heard enough people say that there was no antenna issue (after trying it myself a few times). What if about 1/4th of the units are defective, and you and your friend just got mildly lucky?

I'm going to go try it out ASAP, half because I want to see how much of a problem it is, half because it looks AMAZING. That retina display must be beautiful!
 
I went to the CR article about not recommending the iPhone and said that I don't recommend Consumer Reports. Really, someone who doesn't release reports as his job would be more honest than a media company that just wants attention.
They are anything but a "media company".
But you would know that if you spent more than 30 seconds researching them.
I would trust their assessment over a paid labs testing any day of the week.

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http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/aboutus/adviolation/why-it-matters/index.htm
 
But have you tried doing something really intensive like Infinite Blade II while charging? I mean, at what point in terms of processor usage can it not charge? I don't care about the heat problem as much as this.

Also, you can't use your personal experience and your friend's to call BS on Consumer Reports. I called BS only when I had heard enough people say that there was no antenna issue (after trying it myself a few times). What if about 1/4th of the units are defective, and you and your friend just got mildly lucky?

I'm going to go try it out ASAP, half because I want to see how much of a problem it is, half because it looks AMAZING. That retina display must be beautiful!

Antenna gate started the same way and you would see an overwhelming number of negative posts in forums like these, which would lead anyone to believe that was a huge problem. it wasn't. In fact it affected fewer than 1% of iPhones. I'm pretty confident that this issue will prove to be much the same.
 
They are anything but a "media company".
But you would know that if you spent more than 30 seconds researching them.
I would trust their assessment over a paid labs testing any day of the week.


http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/aboutus/adviolation/why-it-matters/index.htm

They are a media company because they produce magazines and articles on sites. Not the same as a news channel or something, but still technically a media company.

Also, are you really going to trust their "we play fair" statement? Fox's slogan is "Fair & Balanced", but all I see is anti-Obama slurs and even conspiracy theories on their channel.

Also, .org means nothing. Anyone can buy that. The biggest pirating site is a .org (thepiratebay.org).
 
OK, let's face -- Apple totally blew it this time! They did not take into account the possibility that some of the new iPad users will want to run GPU intensive games for more that 15 minutes at a time (get a life, losers!!!!). Expect an iOS update within a couple of weeks that will throttle your gameplay to 1/2 the fps you get now. Problem solved! Meanwhile, the rest of us keep enjoying our IPad 1s 1 & 2s. I really can't see what all the fuss about the retina redisplay is, not without my reading glasses (disclaimer: I have been to an Apple Store, have seen the new iPad, and left unconvinced).
 
While this is a little bit of a bummer, I'd probably be willing to tow a nuclear reactor behind me if that was what was needed to power this retina display. I just love this display.

Also, I'd like to know what brightness setting they ran it at. This is key, and it surprises me that CR would leave out this important bit of info. According to DisplayMate:

"... the display normally consumes about 50-60 percent of the total Tablet power"

"...the running time at Maximum brightness in our tests was 5.8 hours, 20 percent less than the iPad 2's 7.2 hours. But at the Middle brightness slider setting, which is closer to typical user settings, the running time was 11.6 hours..."

It's likely that CR cranked the brightness to max and then ran the most intensive game they could to evaluate worst-case conditions. That's fine, but they should have stated it outright.

They may just find that an intensive game at 50% brightness still allows for charging, or at least maintaining battery levels.
See here: http://gizmodo.com/5894445/the-best-tablet-display-guess-who


Exactly. Just based on the experiences of Macrumors posters, it seems like the issue goes away when screen brightness is 50% or lower. That CR wouldn't mention what screen brightness their iPads were set at renders their conclusions sort of useless ... and a bit irresponsible.

Not saying Apple can do no wrong, but clearly this heat issue is being blown out of proportion.
 
People Still Read Consumer Reports?

Consumer Reports, IMO, is a total piece of crap. Companies have their hands deep within Consumer Reports' pockets, if you'd like a biased review look no further than CR. Just go out of business already or give credit where credit is due, the New iPad is amazing...The display just makes my knee's weak and all they can focus on is "it gets hot"


Last thing - When your at the top, like Apple is, everyone wants to take you down.
 
It's good to see the defense force is out strong already. We wouldn't want anyone to say something bad about your new purchase, even if we all know it to be a fact, just deny it and then it's not true, right?

5 minutes after the iPad 3 launched there were people on forums commenting about how warm it got just syncing with their PC. But now days later I'm supposed to believe this is all a bunch of fiction cooked up by consumer reports because they hate Apple. lol

You may not care that your iPad 3 gets warm or even hot, but some of us don't want a tablet that gets hot. My iPad 2 has never even felt warm to me, and I won't buy another iPad that isn't the same. This is why you don't buy these thngs the day they come out, because then you find yourself on a forum defending unfortunate things like this, because you didn't wait to see how the product actually turned out.
 
I would just like to say Congratulations to Apple for the really impressive iCloud backup feature. I had my previous iPad 2 using iCould for backup.
When I started with the “New” iPad (3) my USB Power Adapter was the item that was warm, and of a little concern.

The New iPad was a little warm on the first use, but then I thought about what it was doing.
After entering my info, the iPad was doing the following. It downloaded 100+ Apps, Downloaded 1300+ photos, Downloaded 400+ Songs, downloaded dozens of books, etc. It even downloaded 100’s of Docs (from an App) stored in iDisk.
You get the picture. It restored almost every imaginable setting on the device. Even a lot of apps that had stored data was restored!!

Anyway, I was very impressed! Such a high processor usage a large amount of data transfer is not the norm. The new iPad has been great, and the heat is not an issue for me.
From what I gather from this thread, the consensus to me seems to be that the new iPad is great, but perhaps the USB Charger is a little strained under heavy use. Great product! Now... Please put Siri back in it like the iPhone.
 
My ipad 1 can't charge under heavy loads as well.

I think consumer reports maybe over playing this. The ipad 1 had charging problems when under high stress as well.
 
Consumer Reports, IMO, is a total piece of crap. Companies have their hands deep within Consumer Reports' pockets, if you'd like a biased review look no further than CR. Just go out of business already or give credit where credit is due, the New iPad is amazing...The display just makes my knee's weak and all they can focus on is "it gets hot"


Last thing - When your at the top, like Apple is, everyone wants to take you down.

How do you feel about their Mac reviews where they rate them at the top of each category? Is that biased too? Is that trying to "take Apple down"?
 
CR report: “it felt very warm but not especially uncomfortable.”

CR on CNBC: “hot enough to be uncomfortable at least.”

Ok, CR, which is it?

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How do you feel about their Mac reviews where they rate them at the top of each category? Is that biased too? Is that trying to "take Apple down"?

I personally wouldn't use a CR report as a basis for any purchase.
 
CR report: “it felt very warm but not especially uncomfortable.”

CR on CNBC: “hot enough to be uncomfortable at least.”

Ok, CR, which is it?

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I personally wouldn't use a CR report as a basis for any purchase.

You missed the point.
 
How do you feel about their Mac reviews where they rate them at the top of each category? Is that biased too? Is that trying to "take Apple down"?

They put Apple computers at the top? Last time I checked, they put the Macs low, but that was a year or two ago. Also, Apple isn't at the top with PCs, at least not in terms of overall market share (but in terms of quality, I think they are). Now, if you talked about college student market share, I think Apple has like 95%. At my high school, everyone in my classes with a laptop is using a MacBook (or Pro) except for one kid in one of my classes, who has an HP.
 
I'll wait for the newer ipad or maybe even the newest ipad. By then, maybe charging will be a feature.:D
 
I have an iPad 3 for gaming.
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:p

Hopefully, this is at most a problem just for people who play Infinity Blade II.
 
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