Consumer Reports Finds New iPad Gets Warm, Can't Charge Under Heavy Loads

[AZREOSpecialist]

OK, let's face -- Apple totally blew it this time! They did not take into account the possibility that some of the new iPad users will want to run GPU intensive games for more that 15 minutes at a time (get a life, losers!!!!). Expect an iOS update within a couple of weeks that will throttle your gameplay to 1/2 the fps you get now. Problem solved! Meanwhile, the rest of us keep enjoying our IPad 1s 1 & 2s. I really can't see what all the fuss about the retina redisplay is, not without my reading glasses (disclaimer: I have been to an Apple Store, have seen the new iPad, and left unconvinced).

Or turn down the brightness from "torch mode" to "normal human mode" and the issue is resolved.

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It's good to see the defense force is out strong already. We wouldn't want anyone to say something bad about your new purchase, even if we all know it to be a fact, just deny it and then it's not true, right?

5 minutes after the iPad 3 launched there were people on forums commenting about how warm it got just syncing with their PC. But now days later I'm supposed to believe this is all a bunch of fiction cooked up by consumer reports because they hate Apple. lol

You may not care that your iPad 3 gets warm or even hot, but some of us don't want a tablet that gets hot. My iPad 2 has never even felt warm to me, and I won't buy another iPad that isn't the same. This is why you don't buy these thngs the day they come out, because then you find yourself on a forum defending unfortunate things like this, because you didn't wait to see how the product actually turned out.

Glad you're not getting one.

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So, it's OK if an Apple product can only be used if you dim the screen to 50%?

No, you can use the screen at 100%. Who said you can only use it at 50%? Maybe you should sharpen your reading skills?

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But what brightness do they use to display it in the stores?

Irrelevant. You don't have to contend with that kind of overhead fluorescent lighting at home.

 

[Tech198]

pure hype

Media will do anything to get people's attention.

I picked up my new iPad few days ago, and after a NextByte rep. if he heard about these... He replied "he had a few come back, but nothing serious"

Having said that, i've yet to play Infinity Blade II and charge at the same time.

Still... when you think about it, this would be good jump for the media to ward people off and get Android instead.

I've never even felt my new ipad get even remotely warm either at the side or near the corners, so i dunno what that is about.

I'm glad I never pay attention to the media.. until it happens to me

 

[diamond.g]

Or turn down the brightness from "torch mode" to "normal human mode" and the issue is resolved.

Unless you are outside...

 

[BiggAW]

Electronic devices put out heat. Deal with it.

 

[bawbac]

What I don't understand:

All of the measurements I've seen were done with the iPad radiating in free air, where the heat is greatly lessened.

I would like a magazine to do a test where the iPad is laying against someone's skin, with a thermometer between.

If that trapped area got to around 109F or above, then you would begin to see undesirable effects like the Toasted Skin rashes that doctors report.

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Another downside of extra heat is that it affects total battery lifetime. An extra ten degrees will take weeks or months away from it.

Sometimes using logic and performing scientific tests that will substantiate and validate a defect are frowned upon by sheep.

 

[bobob]

Unless you are outside...

Okay, let's get this scenario straight - - you're outside, with your new iPad plugged in, playing continuous graphic intensive games...


(Are you also on the planet Mercury, by chance?)

 

[lamina]

Are you charging it using the iPad charger?

Of course.

 

[bobob]

At least one good thing will come out of "heatgate" - - we can count on all reviewers to publish precise temperature readings for every future handheld devices under full load/worst case scenario.

We can see exactly how hot each Android tablet and phone gets compared to iPads and iPhones.





(Yeah, right!)

 

[dan2012]

For me, the iPad doesn't even charge under a "light" load. If I leave the screen brightness at about 80% and turn on the iPad The Weather Channel app, it actually loses its charge. That's nowhere near as heavy of a load as Infinity Blade II. Anyone else have this issue?

Wifi is on, not a LTE iPad.

Same here. I've been playing Angry Birds Space HD while plugged in and it continues to lose charge.

 

[thetoad30]

So now your definition of real world is simply making stuff up. Books? the vast majority of your interaction is simply reading whats on the screen, meaning everything but the back light is idle. You aren't heavy scrolling for 5 hours non-stop. Graphs? Again, calculating graphs takes mere moments, the rest of the time you're looking at them. It's an iPad, not a supercomputer you aren't going to be doing anything that takes hours of calculations. If you're using an app with real time graphs that are constantly updating, you aren't going to be doing it for 5 hours straight.

No only are these examples you've provided not going to be used the way you're suggesting and not put the load on you're pretending they would, but you still have the option of plugging it in. Since it will be iPad will be idling most of the time anyway, it will still receive a charge. So if we convert your make-believe real-world scenario to actual real-world, we have a situation where you'll have 5 hours of battery life after the power from the wall runs dry.

Not to mention 10 hours is not the max, 10 hours is with scren at 50% browsing. In Class, you also have an instructior and lecture. Where your ipad is either doing light load if you're note takeing or no load at all if you're listening. 10 hours is very achievable. Especially considering the reviews I've read said that 10 hour mark is pretty spot on.

Still waiting for you real-world scenarios where this is an issue. You clearly haven not provided it.

You seriously read what you want to.

Interactive books, magazines, etc. You know, the kind that use... GRAPHICS. Again, use your brain.

Graphs, meaning you look at them, change them, interact with them. Things like the MRI graphics and health charts that Apple put in one of their commercials. If you can't grasp the imaginative portion of this post instead of taking everything I've typed literally, well then I'm sorry you have such limited brain function, and I'm done having a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

And yes, you can still plug it in, while it still loses battery power. So way to use circular reasoning.

So I'm still waiting for you to use your brain, and to start thinking about the possibilities that the iPad was designed and marketed for by Apple itself.

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Sometimes using logic and performing scientific tests that will substantiate and validate a defect are frowned upon by sheep.

Especially the Apple sheep. It's one thing to like a brand, it's another to be blindly loyal to it.

 

[B777Forevar]

It seems that under extremely heavy processor usage, the iPad is unable to draw sufficient power from its USB connection to both power the device and charge the battery simultaneously.

It's called innovation!

 

[Hyper-X]

Odd, I guess people can't figure out that a 500mA standard USB port can't charge the iPad while in full use. I'm not surprised at the additional load the new iPad is putting on the 10watt AC charger, IMHO I think it needs to be upgraded for this unit but it does do the job for now... but I wonder how long before all the extra stress on the charger forces me to look for a replacement.

As far as the heat issue on the new iPad, not a big deal. Yes I noticed it but again not something I can't fix. A simple back cover will insulate the heat from your hands, fingers and laps.

 

[2IS]

You seriously read what you want to.

Interactive books, magazines, etc. You know, the kind that use... GRAPHICS. Again, use your brain.

Graphs, meaning you look at them, change them, interact with them. Things like the MRI graphics and health charts that Apple put in one of their commercials. If you can't grasp the imaginative portion of this post instead of taking everything I've typed literally, well then I'm sorry you have such limited brain function, and I'm done having a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

And yes, you can still plug it in, while it still loses battery power. So way to use circular reasoning.

So I'm still waiting for you to use your brain, and to start thinking about the possibilities that the iPad was designed and marketed for by Apple itself.

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Especially the Apple sheep. It's one thing to like a brand, it's another to be blindly loyal to it.

You're right. This problem is so real world that despite the millions of iPads sold, we aren't seeing thousands of complaints along the lines of "wtf my iPad died while plugged in" I guess everyone uses their iPads in ideal conditions and not real world right?

You really shouldn't suggest people use their brain when you're the one making the most retarded claims in this thread.

I'm still waiting for you to explain why "real world" issues aren't actually happening in the real world.

I'll tell you why, it's because they're non-issues but I'd like to hear your reason as to why it hasn't been an issue outside of threads like this.

 

[BiggAW]

I'm guessing the average iPad user charges overnight once or twice a week, and is perfectly happy with battery life.

 

[thetoad30]

You're right. This problem is so real world that despite the millions of iPads sold, we aren't seeing thousands of complaints along the lines of "wtf my iPad died while plugged in" I guess everyone uses their iPads in ideal conditions and not real world right?

You really shouldn't suggest people use their brain when you're the one making the most retarded claims in this thread.

I'm still waiting for you to explain why "real world" issues aren't actually happening in the real world.

I'll tell you why, it's because they're non-issues but I'd like to hear your reason as to why it hasn't been an issue outside of threads like this.

Some people just don't have thought processes and can't think for themselves. Keep listening to what Apple tells you. Ignore all other voices in your head.

 

[2IS]

Some people just don't have thought processes and can't think for themselves. Keep listening to what Apple tells you. Ignore all other voices in your head.

Classic reply from someone who has nothing to back their claim up other than their own misguided opinion. So you can't explain why these so called "real world" problems aren't actually happening. That's what I thought too. Next time you decide to think for yourself, think a little harder.

 

[diamond.g]

Okay, let's get this scenario straight - - you're outside, with your new iPad plugged in, playing continuous graphic intensive games...


(Are you also on the planet Mercury, by chance?)

Hey it could happen!

 

[TheBronx]

Some people just don't have thought processes and can't think for themselves. Keep listening to what Apple tells you. Ignore all other voices in your head.

Give up the dramatics, man...

 

[jacobj]

Today, for the first time, one of my friends returned an Apple product. Hundreds of products bought amongst them all and this one gets returned. It probably means nothing, but it was surprising.

 

[BiggAW]

Hey it could happen!

For a marathon 10-hour gaming streak, without even a bathroom break!

 

[bobob]

PCWorld.com did a comparison test with the temperature of other tablets:

Not so hot: New iPad heat levels comparable to Android tablets

Does the new iPad run hotter than other tablets?

To answer that question, we took our trusty thermometer in hand and ran a series of tests that pitted Apple’s latest tablet against the iPad 2 and two popular Android tablets—the Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime and the LTE version of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. Our results are likely to be reassuring to any potential iPad purchasers. Though the new iPad did run hotter than the iPad 2, the difference wasn’t great. And in repeated lab tests of the new iPad, we could not replicate the disturbingly high temperatures that some sources have reported. More important, the new iPad was not dramatically warmer than either the Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime or the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE, even though its battery has a substantially higher milliampere-per-hour (mAh) rating than theirs do (11666mAh for the new iPad, versus 7000mAh for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and 6930mAh for the Transformer Prime).

 

[TheBronx]

PCWorld.com did a comparison test with the temperature of other tablets:

Not so hot: New iPad heat levels comparable to Android tablets



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the overblown non-issue is finally at rest? haters, time to latch onto something else! hehe

 

[thetoad30]

Classic reply from someone who has nothing to back their claim up other than their own misguided opinion. So you can't explain why these so called "real world" problems aren't actually happening. That's what I thought too. Next time you decide to think for yourself, think a little harder.

So where's your data then, chief?

...crickets...

Oh yeah, that's what I thought.

I've routinely pointed out that Apple commercials themselves were what I was pointing to. And other's on this forum have posted their data for not charging. But once again, you'll just think what you want, say my "opinion" is "retarded", and move along. Whatever makes you happy. If you want to have the delusion of the Apple cult following, then so be it.

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the overblown non-issue is finally at rest? haters, time to latch onto something else! hehe

Not even close! Did you or anyone else read the article? The OP especially?

They aren't even using the same game. They didn't reproduce anything - they did their own test, which might be valid depending on how the game utilizes the GPUs and CPUs. They don't even tell you where they measured the temperature "on the back". It's a big device for point-temperature measurements.

At the very least they could have tried to reproduce the test CR did and that would have either told us they have a few bad iPads out there, or they have a problem...

Where is the science anymore these days? Logic and brain use are out the window...

 

[TheBronx]

Not even close! Did you or anyone else read the article? The OP especially?

They aren't even using the same game. They didn't reproduce anything - they did their own test, which might be valid depending on how the game utilizes the GPUs and CPUs. They don't even tell you where they measured the temperature "on the back". It's a big device for point-temperature measurements.

At the very least they could have tried to reproduce the test CR did and that would have either told us they have a few bad iPads out there, or they have a problem...

Where is the science anymore these days? Logic and brain use are out the window...

So CRs test is the standard for testing these things? Why do they have to duplicate CR's test? CR's test required playing a graphic intensive game for like 5 hours straight plugged in or something didn't it? hehe, sorry, I know you want that to be the normal use conditions of the iPad so you can get your point across, but its not!

Further CR themselves have made a follow up where they say:

At this point, we don't believe the temperatures we recorded in our tests of the new iPad represent a safety concern. As we said in our initial post about the iPad's heat issues, the tablet felt "very warm but not especially uncomfortable if held for a brief period."

We've concluded in the past that a laptop that heats up to 120 degrees or more could damage bare skin over time. While laptop heating was a problem during the infancy of the product, we discontinued our heat tests several years ago when typical temperatures came down to 110 degrees Fahrenheit or so.

In addition, a tablet computer is used differently from a laptop. Most people don't keep it sitting on their laps for long periods, but rather hold it in their hands, switch the location of their hands while holding it, and change the hand they're using to hold it. So you're probably not touching that one hot area for a prolonged period.

So again, it's an overblown non-issue that was clickbait which worked for CR. While you were busy yelling about apple sheep, you failed to realize that you were becoming a CR sheep! hehe

 

[linux2mac]

So CRs test is the standard for testing these things? Why do they have to duplicate CR's test? CR's test required playing a graphic intensive game for like 5 hours straight plugged in or something didn't it? hehe, sorry, I know you want that to be the normal use conditions of the iPad so you can get your point across, but its not!

Further CR themselves have made a follow up where they say:



So again, it's an overblown non-issue that was clickbait which worked for CR. While you were busy yelling about apple sheep, you failed to realize that you were becoming a CR sheep! hehe

Totally agree. I finally got my hands on the new iPad this past weekend and I did not notice a heat issue. Further,

Wired Also Tests Heat of New iPad, Finds It Middle of Tablet Road
http://9to5mac.com/2012/03/26/wired-also-tests-heat-of-new-ipad-finds-it-middle-of-tablet-road/

"The third-generation iPad reached just 94 degrees Fahrenheit in its hottest rear chassis location (slightly below, and to the right of, the Apple logo when the tablet is held in portrait mode). Ninety-four degrees is not an uncomfortable temperature in one’s hands, and it’s also well short of the alarming 116 degrees publicized by Consumer Reports,"