Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed

[yansun]

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It’s worth noting that although the iPhone 6 has the same profile design on the edges as the 6 Plus, the fact that it’s shorter makes harder to achieve the moment necessary to cause the flexion like in the 6 Plus."

In the scenario they are speaking of? ...

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Not sure why you are giving more credibility to a blog that has existed for 1 day, than Consumer Reports. Anyone can make a blog post, it's not more credible than linking to a forum post here.

Maybe because I do not blindly believe someone just because he "has" a "good" reputation. Did CR also tests where they did not distribute the pressure evenly but concentrated on a certain spot near this "weak spot" is assumed to be?

 

[Derpert]

I-Rage.

Lol

 

[H2SO4]

That's not unique to Apple and I don't see anything wrong with that. If you measure everything by thickness, there won't be a need for the word thin



It's like saying you can't use the word dark because there isn't such thing as dark. Dark is absence of light. Or you can't use the word cold because there isn't such thing as cold. Cold is the absence of heat.

I promise you. It is marketing speak. Of course there'll be a need for the word thin even if you measure by thickness.
Look;
I have two phones, one is 6mm thick and the other is 7mm thick. Bring me the thin one.
Dark means low OR no light.
Cold means no OR low heat.
They have deliberately set upon the word thin for marketing purposes. Now they are reaping different 'benefits'.
When somebody asks me my age I may say for example that I’m 63 years old. Next time some one asks your yours, tell them, 'I'm X years young' and see how they look at you.
They'll either assume you're having a joke or trying to 'market' yourself.

 

[Max(IT)]

You just proved that people won't always treat their phones well, which seems to be the #1 solution to bendgate. Im very happy that your phone is well, however.

That's quite different than trying hard to destroy it by pulling and pushing its frame with your hands

 

[subsonix]

Because I do not blindly believe someone just because he has a "good" reputation. Did CR test where they did not distributed the pressure evenly but concentrated on a certain spot where this "weak spot" is assumed to be?

All cases have weak spots, that's why they are all treated equally by applying the same force in the back.

 

[nia820]

Why do I have to watch people who somehow find the phones to break them but I still haven't gotten my own phone that I ordered that I actually want to USE

lol

Ditto.

I feel physically ill when I watch iphone 6 drop test.

 

[yansun]

All cases have weak spots, that's why they are all treated equally by applying the same force in the back.

In which way this contradicts the assumption of the article I quoted?

 

[mdlooker]

I put my iP6+ in my pocket all the time. When I get in my car, I take it out. When I sit at my desk I take it out. If I go on the subway, I'll take it out. The ONLY possible way I can see bending my phone, will be at an amusement park riding some roller coster or high impact ride.

Point here is to acknowledge what it is in your lifestyle that may cause your phone to bend. If you want/like a thin phone and what it has to offer, there may be things you need to do care for it. We do it all of the time. Perhaps there are jeans that bleed more than others when they go through wash cycles thus rendering one lighter than the other but you very well may get that pair that bleeds more because you like it more. Guess what you're going to do.. care for it more

 

[Max(IT)]

I wonder who's buying this guy's phones.

Yep, the web is literally full of "casual users" trying hard to destroy expensive devices to demonstrate an Apple flaw. I'm a little bit suspicious about who's paying their bills.
Maybe not so casual those users...

 

[macgabe]

I'm hoping that the bender guy, the blender guy, the deepfreeze guy and the dropper guy will now use their youtube profits and maybe raise a little kickstarter cash and buy a Rolls Royce Phantom (only 450 iphones?) and drive it into a concrete wall at 25 mph, with them all sitting in it with go-pros strapped to their foreheads and one on the wall. Maybe Red Bull will sponsor them? In the name of science.

 

[subsonix]

In which way this contradicts the assumption of the article i quoted?

It doesn't, but then you should also ask for similar tests on all other phones, something no one has suggested.

 

[Max(IT)]

This may be why it's been noticed more. Strong enough? Maybe.
But a significant difference to the iPhone 5 which people were used to up to this point.
Relatively speaking the phone is weaker. I can understand how people would be disappointed that the old one bests the new one in some respects.

Strong enough is the only point you should consider. Is there something stronger? Sure. But we are speaking about different design, materials, thickness and weight, so who care?

Strong enough to use it every day is what we need

 

[BvizioN]

I promise you. It is marketing speak. Of course there'll be a need for the word thin even if you measure by thickness.
Look;
I have two phones, one is 6mm thick and the other is 7mm thick. Bring me the thin one.
Dark means low OR no light.
Cold means no OR low heat.
They have deliberately set upon the word thin for marketing purposes. Now they are reaping different 'benefits'.
When somebody asks me my age I may say for example 63 years old. Next time some one asks your yours, tell them, I'm X years young' and see how they look at you.
They'll either assume you're having a joke or trying to 'market' yourself.

But do people really care? Most people do try these phones in the Apple Store before they buy them, or have an idea about the device. What difference would it make if the device has got the thickness or "thinnest" that Apple claims and people are happy with it? I can't see someone splashing over £539 just because Apple used the word thin!

And let's not forget that competition is using the same tactic all the time.

 

[Rogifan]

What's amazing to me is is in these bend tests the screen never breaks and the phone appears to still work. I'll bet any money there were/are more 4/4S's with cracked glass (front or back) than we'll ever see 6 /6 Pluses get bent (or have cracked screens).

 

[H2SO4]

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It’s worth noting that although the iPhone 6 has the same profile design on the edges as the 6 Plus, the fact that it’s shorter makes harder to achieve the moment necessary to cause the flexion like in the 6 Plus."



Wrong conclusion.. .....Wrong hypothesis .

Iphone 6 bends easer than iphone 6+

But both are strong enough for sane individuals ( not the Canadian tester dude or those who think that is sane use )

Strong enough. Thinnest and lightest phones on market . Those are facts.

Everything else is the lowlife undignified competition trying their damn best to save their neck through disinformation.. And keeping this line of conversation alive to maximize damage !

On that note.. Good night.

Too much bs here.

Ok so let's see.
Thinnest and lightest phones on the market. This is easy to prove and I don't doubt it. This will not be opinion as the figures can't lie.
Strong enough? Now this is a matter of opinion. Yours may quite legitimately differ from others.
The rest about the competition is pure Kool Aid.
As for keeping the thread alive you do realise you are part of the problem of course? If you wish to minimise media fallout damage you can do so by not ever posting back unless you have what you believe to be irrefutable evidence to silence those Fandroids.

 

[MSofNJ]

Looks like the YouTube bend hack has been rendered irrelevant. Now that he no longer has any credibility with the iPhone community, his acolytes have been pretty much reduced to fauning Fandroids. Kind of like Sarah Palin at a NeoCon convention.

 

[trifid]

So go buy a Moto X.

No one is forcing you to buy an iphone. You are totally free to enjoy whatever phone you want.

If you find extreme joy in your Moto X and that you can try to bend it as hard as you want, then good for you. Everyone is different.

Others who like the iPhone 6+ for its features will continue to enjoy it, and most will do so without bending as well.

No one is better than the other. People just want different things.

I'll be the first to admit my Macbook Pro is not the toughest laptop out there. People working in the military or in rough environments may not want to use it in the field. They might want a Panasonic toughbook. Does it make the toughbook better? Only to satisfy their wants and desires.

So go enjoy your different wants and desires. And we will do so with ours. But let's stop with crediting the less reliable (and what some is just outright nonsense) over the credible and reliable.

I already own an iPhone 6, I don't want a Moto X, I just want Apple to make it more durable, if it takes #bendgate to raise awareness and get Apple's attention, then it's a good thing. Look at the iCloud celebrity scandal, Apple took immediate action fixing a vulnerability, giving email notification, pushing 2-way authentication, etc.

And there are multiple sources claiming that Apple knew about some of these security risks for 6-12 months. It took a scandal to get action.

 

[yansun]

It doesn't, but then you should also ask for similar tests on all other phones, something no one has suggested.

This is first of all about the vulnerability of the iPhone to bending, but I really don't mind any test. So please let us test them all and let us test them in the same way! Happy?

 

[Max(IT)]

Actually not, as the guy at Imgur noted, the 3-point bending test is not able to detect the i6 Plus weak spot it clearly has at the volume button cutouts

http://www.solidsmack.com/culture/apples-bendgate-explained-iphones-bending-probably/

This *New* video from Unbox Therapy show how easy is to bend the i6 Plus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3Ds6uf0Yg&list=UUsTcErHg8oDvUnTzoqsYeNw

Did you realize how ridiculous that explanation is? They are putting an insane force on a single point, maybe the weakness point of the frame, just to demonstrate that it bends! What has that to do with NORMAL USAGE of a phone????
Are you keeping your phone with two hands while two thumbs are pushing hard near the volume buttons?! To do exactly WHAT?!?

AH YES, I almost forgot: to demonstrate that Apple is crappy....

 

[H2SO4]

But do people really care? Most people do try these phones in the Apple Store before they buy them, or have an idea about the device. What difference would it make if the device has got the thickness or "thinnest" that Apple claims and people are happy with it? I can't see someone splashing over £539 just because Apple used the word thin!

And let's not forget that competition is using the same tactic all the time.

Ok so does that mean it is or is not marketing? Which do you believe?
Again. Marketing is one of the most powerful tools a company has to get you through the doors. If it wasn't worth the millions of pounds that every company spends they wouldn't do it.
Trust me. Within Apple the marketing machine looks at 64 bit, they look at weight, they look at thickness and a whole horde of other things, then they will do their best to capitalise on those that work best for them OR that BEAT THE COMPETITION.
If it's the thinnest phone expect to see them emphasise it.
It it's the only 64 bit expect to see them emphasise that too.
Now have a look at the page for the Six on store.apple.com
They don't stop the descriptions at 'great CPU' or 'thin phone’. They gush about it for ages.

THEY WANT YOUR MONEY!
When they push marketing too far we get threads like this.

 

[Kariya]

There you go. Case closed.

Can't wait to see what the naysayers come up with next.

 

[jm001]

I contend that there have been more iPhones bent by bloggers looking for attention than have been bent in real life usage

UPDATE: Sales of the iPhone 6+ quadruple that of all the Android makers combined and helps iOS capture back 70% of the smartphone market as people flock to buy the phones just to bend them.

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There you go. Case closed.

Um don't you mean case bent?

 

[Max(IT)]

you assume they bought them in the first place. For all we know CR contacted Apple to 'apologize' for that whole antenna thing (i.e. refusing to recommend the phone even after the details about how other phones had the same issue) and offered to do this test as an 'impartial' group and Apple gave them phones to destroy.

Do you have proofs of that correlation?

 

[Lictor]

Do you realise how much 90lbs force is? I can't even lift 90lbs using both my arms and you think you may apply that kind of force to your phone in your pocket?

Errr... Come on, you really can't lift 90lbs with both arms??? That's only 40kg! My bike with the 5kg of locks and bags weights around that much and I'm still able to carry it daily up the stairs for the night.
Besides, we have videos of guys bending it with their fingers... Either these guys should compete for Mr Universe or it's actually not that hard to exercise 90lbs... There is a difference between lifting a weight and just exercising strength for a very brief time!

And we're not talking about bending it with your arms, but with your hip flexor - if the phone is in the front pocket of your pants, it's bend when you flex your leg from the pressure between leg and hip. You certainly can exercise more than 90lbs with your hip flexor, that's the strongest muscle in the human body and if you couldn't you would be unable to walk or to climb stairs...

Note: Yes, I'm aware that force is not measure by a unit of mass but in newtons... But since consumer reports has chosen to use that unit in its scientific report...

 

[Max(IT)]

I can't wait until iphone 6s issue. #screenbrokejumpingwithhighheelsgate

Best joke of the thread