I bought three 6's (one for myself, my wife, and my mother) and two out of the three are bent. The two that are bent were kept in our pockets. The only one that is still flat was kept in a purse. We didn't even know they were bent because all three of us have cases on them and didn't realize it until I took them out of the cases to show someone what they looked like with no case.
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Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed
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Half the force.... but still a force that you are not going to apply to any phone!
Unless you don't intentionally want to bend it....
HTC one is even less resistant, but nobody is whining about it on the web
Yeah, I've been through exactly this point before. You put your phone in your pocket just like 99.9% of all the rest of us, and you are absolutely right that the phone wouldn't in the direction shown when you put it in your front pocket just as you and the vast majority of the rest of us do.
This broken phone still WORKS
Consumer Reports did a great job but two comments might get overlooked from the great picture
1) the screen did NOT break
2) the phone still WORKED after being broken that badly
The hysterical press should take a Chill Pill
Consumer Reports did a great job but two comments might get overlooked from the great picture
1) the screen did NOT break
2) the phone still WORKED after being broken that badly
The hysterical press should take a Chill Pill
Omg it is not JUST 90 pounds!!!
It is a lot of force applied on it, those 90 pounds!
Do you know something about physics?!?
Even though I do have a very smart pocket, it's probably not aware of weak spots in iPhone. I'll concede to that
However, under prolonged use, if you have the phone in your pocket in lots of different situations, there can surely be occasions when the phone gets pressure to very specific points.I don't have any stakes in this btw - I've been owning nothing but Apple products since the early 2000s (just tried out a Samsung for a couple of months, not going back). And I considered upgrading the to 6 plus from my 4S when it was released a couple of weeks ago. However, I have been having the feeling for the last couple of years that Apple is no longer making products that "just work", like Steve said. That has always been the reason I've stuck with Apple. And I really think Apple fanboys are doing a huge disservice to Apple by not demanding the best from them, and make up excuses in stead.
You don't know about Samsung. They tested just a single model over how many? 1000?
Let's see pictures, or video...
I have an iPhone 6 that I got on release day, and I have carried it in my pocket every day, including in my back jeans pocket for two of those days. I've sat on it for a minimum of three hours, total in the last week. In the very flimsy leather case. No bending.
A lot of people don’t have direct experience of death or a broken bone but they’d probably like to avoid both. It’s nice to have experience but it isn’t always essential. In addition my/your experience will be different from those of others.
Personally I’ve done enough physics and electronics without being an engineer to know that most things we do are approximations that point toward a probable outcome.
What someone should do, and consumer reports are one of the only nationwide independent, (though not necessarily unbiased), organisations with the resource to do so, is put pressure guages on the phone to measure what forces act where as I’m pretty sure that the phone in this guys pocket wasn’t subjected to pressure in the middle like they showed.
Lictor I think, correctly pointed out that the leg area will exert significantly more pressure than the arm/hand. It is also significantly less sensitive to the amount of pressure exerted than an arm so it’d be much easier to bend an item with your lower body strength whilst not thinking that much force has been applied.
So. A definitive.
Was the phone in a front or rear pocket?
Was the glass facing in or out?
Was the whole phone in the pocket or did some of it protrude like that bloody camera?
Only once we understand and agree on the above can we make a fair test whether you are a Fanbois or Fandroid.
Since the story first broke I’ve learned that a lot more people carry phones in their back pockets than I thought, (the vast majority are women), and they seem to not care whether the front or the back faces out. Also a lot of people apparently never sit down with their phone in pocket, (that, I don’t believe though).
Hello?
That is what EVERYONE calls it. That is not some isoteric latin term applied to describe scientific processes. Now if they had nattered on about "elastic deformation" and "plastic deformation", maybe it would be appropriate to explain further.
Where does CR find their journalists?
Although to be fair, at least the "engineering" staff at CR did a better job with this investigation than in many of their previous "investigations". Maybe they are trying to get back into Apple's good graces after doing that hack job on the iPhone 4 and 5.
Really
What is interesting here is that the Note 3 stands up better that all no one is talking about that here all phones are bendable at some point mass produced anything is possible. I still have to wait till nov for my 6plus not cool.
What is interesting here is that the Note 3 stands up better that all no one is talking about that here all phones are bendable at some point mass produced anything is possible. I still have to wait till nov for my 6plus not cool.
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That fork analogy is the best way to summarize how dumb this whole issue is (and how dumb the media-starved sensationalists are).
Bombproof? You might want to look at the video again. You know, the video done with calibrated machines, by an organization that does this for a living.
Truly unbelievable how far people would go. My first thought was why would he not just try bending a Samsung note 3 rather than the Motorola but I now saw your post.
I have no dog is this foolish fight. Just had to show this old thread of Consumer Reports not recommending the Iphone 5 because of what they deemed to be a large problem. If you look through this thread, it's obvious the hatred thrown Consumer Reports way because of their recommendation.
I just find it interesting. I will be getting an IPhone 6.
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/14/consumer-reports-holds-strong-on-iphone-4-non-recommendation/
I just find it interesting. I will be getting an IPhone 6.
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/14/consumer-reports-holds-strong-on-iphone-4-non-recommendation/
These days the word premium is governed in the main by two things. Brand and cost. There are other criteria but those two are the ones the average consumer thinks of most.
With regard to the 5C I don’t think plastic was an issue. I’d actually say that Apple must have spent significant time assessing tactility. It has far and away the nicest feel of anything plastic I can remember handling.
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http://www.cultofmac.com/297938/weakspot-theory-shows-bendgates-quite-dead-yet/
What a great article. That makes sense to me. I think long time iPhone owners (3/4 series) never thought twice about putting their phone in their front pocket. Starting with the 5 series we began hearing about bent iPhones and had to start being more careful with them, and now this. Even Consumer Reports says the 6 series is not as robust as the 5 series.
No matter what you believe, make no mistake this issue will hurt Apple's bottom line. I'm convinced they will sell fewer phones because of it.
I think it's clear at this point that the 6 series is weaker than the 5 series, which in turn is weaker than the 4 series. So over the 5 years, durability seems to be headed in the wrong direction - and while size is a factor, engineering and choice of materials also play a role.
While I don't plan to put my iPhone 6 in a situation where it might bend under stress (I love this thing), I truly do sympathize with people who acquired a very expensive piece of hardware and treated it like past models, only to discover that their new iPhone is more like some kind of delicate flower and is now beginning to resemble a banana.
Having said that, I would be shocked if Apple engineering isn't conducting their own further testing right now with an eye to making some changes to that weak pivot spot if it turns out to be the issue. And if it is, someone at Apple will ask "How the heck did we miss that?"
What a great article. That makes sense to me. I think long time iPhone owners (3/4 series) never thought twice about putting their phone in their front pocket. Starting with the 5 series we began hearing about bent iPhones and had to start being more careful with them, and now this. Even Consumer Reports says the 6 series is not as robust as the 5 series.
No matter what you believe, make no mistake this issue will hurt Apple's bottom line. I'm convinced they will sell fewer phones because of it.
I think it's clear at this point that the 6 series is weaker than the 5 series, which in turn is weaker than the 4 series. So over the 5 years, durability seems to be headed in the wrong direction - and while size is a factor, engineering and choice of materials also play a role.
While I don't plan to put my iPhone 6 in a situation where it might bend under stress (I love this thing), I truly do sympathize with people who acquired a very expensive piece of hardware and treated it like past models, only to discover that their new iPhone is more like some kind of delicate flower and is now beginning to resemble a banana.
Having said that, I would be shocked if Apple engineering isn't conducting their own further testing right now with an eye to making some changes to that weak pivot spot if it turns out to be the issue. And if it is, someone at Apple will ask "How the heck did we miss that?"
I wouldn't hold my breath. On the Internet anyone can claim anything. Particularly Apple haters.
omg. it amazes me how people in the third world kill/stab people to get their hands on an iphone. and in western countries people are breaking them for just to see what happens! if only they knew how valuable that commodity is in other parts of the world.
It amazes me how SAVAGE some people can be in 3rd world countries over a PHONE
All I can say is lucky for you. My mother's phone is way worse than mine, and I didn't take photos while I was at her house yesterday. Mine is only very slight and I can live with it, I'm just going to be super vigilant from now on to not put any pressure on it. Hers on the other hand, is very noticeably bent with the glass slightly pulling away from the frame, and we have an appointment at the Genius Bar on Tuesday (earliest available). I'll get some photos before we turn in the bent phone.
Trust me when I say I was a non-believer as well, until I saw it with my own eyes. And it was a shock because, like I said, we all have cases on them and while in the case they looked fine. It wasn't until I pulled them out of the cases that the, "OH, *****" moment happened.
Im not sure. As I said earlier as much as I do think they cheaped out on it, the percieved lack of strength is not what would keep me from buying it. I reckon there plenty that think the same.
I honestly don't know (and don't want to test it on my iPhone) but am more than happy to assume you are correct.
I appreciate your thoughts and the civil discussion we had.
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