Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed

[rdlink]

I don't doubt your post, and I'm willing to give JDookie the benefit of the doubt and believe his story as well. But both are anecdotal reports that don't by themselves say much about the propensity of the iPhone 6 or 6 Plus to deform in pants pockets. The real question is whether the iPhone is unacceptably susceptible to deformation when carried that way. As I've said in other posts, this is very difficult to test scientifically, despite the best efforts of Apple and Consumer Reports - there are so many variables, including body shape and - ahem - firmness, tightness and thickness of the pants material, phone orientation in the pocket, and so on.

My guess is that while this is a problem for some iPhone 6/6 Plus owners, most will be just fine if they carry their devices prudently.

Very good post, and more or less my point, also. I think that the tests run by Apple and CR are pretty conclusive that this phone, while not a Abrams tank, is not a dainty flower, either. At the very least the tests show that bending these phones would require some pretty high pressure in the pocket, and I can't imagine someone not feeling it and saying to themselves, "Ouch. I need to get that phone out of my butt or thigh!" But that's just me. I have nerve endings in my skin...

 

[TallManNY]

If the phone is straight in the photo, how is there light coming from between the ruler and the phone.


Here's a photo of my THREE iPhone 6 boxes complete with the ruler from the photo and my username, etc.

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Step one to proving that you weren't lying accomplished. I'm rooting for you Dookie for the whole faith in mankind stuff. But I'm also hoping you are lying because you are certainly providing evidence that the phones are fragile.

I've ordered my iPhone 6 and plan to keep it in the front pocket of jeans often. Maybe in case, but I was thinking a fairly slim case. And anyway cases are plastic and flexible, so I doubt they add much bend protection. Your cases seem to have not.

 

[NY Guitarist]

This is just an example of a first world problem taken advantage of by publicity hounds.

 

[craznar]

Some people here would even deny that there could be the possibility of bending iPhones in "normal" use ...

The problem is - define normal use.

When I got my first mobile phone in the early 90s, normal use was treating it like crap.

When I got my first smart phone almost a decade ago, normal use was treating it with more respect.

'Normal use' for an item is really dependent on what that item is.

The iPhone 6+ is a wafer thin large phone, the 'normal use' for it can't physically be the same as the iPhone 4s. It just isn't physically possible.

Reason and logic have to enter this equation somewhere.

 

[fmcarv]

Consumer Reports: iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus Not as Bendable as Believed

Step one to proving that you weren't lying accomplished. I'm rooting for you Dookie for the whole faith in mankind stuff. But I'm also hoping you are lying because you are certainly providing evidence that the phones are fragile.



I've ordered my iPhone 6 and plan to keep it in the front pocket of jeans often. Maybe in case, but I was thinking a fairly slim case. And anyway cases are plastic and flexible, so I doubt they add much bend protection. Your cases seem to have not.

I'm very curious about his trip to Apple on Tuesday.

If this is true this guy holds 2/9 of all bent phones so far in the whole world.

Unique!!

 

[rish]

I was being sarcastic buddy ;-)

Understood. Eyes tired from the sheer force I had to generate to bend two IP6's. Knackered as we say. #

 

[Will do good]

I bought three 6's (one for myself, my wife, and my mother) and two out of the three are bent. The two that are bent were kept in our pockets. The only one that is still flat was kept in a purse. We didn't even know they were bent because all three of us have cases on them and didn't realize it until I took them out of the cases to show someone what they looked like with no case.

You are so full of it. How much did samsung paid you for posting lies? SHow us the 2 bend iPhone, newbie!

 

[rsocal]

Monday you will see a phone used by a 60 year old woman who's phone bent under normal use. Plain and simple, you just have to wait until Monday when I am around the phone again to take the picture.

The picture of the boxes is in response to cmaier who doubts I actually bought three.

For the love of God, please go away!

 

[KellydenAdel]

The iPhone 6+ is a wafer thin large phone, the 'normal use' for it can't physically be the same as the iPhone 4s. It just isn't physically possible.
.

most of the people in this thread are intellectual children



that level of SIMPLE LOGIC escapes their 'brains'

 

[H2SO4]

I had no clue it was like this here. I'm use to forum members working together to find solutions to common problems, not live in denial and attack people for bringing them up in the first place. This is absolutely insane.

Yep. There are always differences of opinion and that’s fine but here can at times be like a religious fanatics forum. Man that seemed like a co-ordinated attack.
You should grab a gum shield before Monday.

LOL, really though. Before you post on Monday pretend you are a rabid fanatic and try and prove yourself a liar. When you have difficulty doing so, only then is it the right time to post your evidence.

 

[calzon65]

Interesting analysis, but unfortunately the iPhone 6 is at the BOTTOM of the list along with the HTC One (M8). Based on Consumer Reports’ analysis, it looks like the LG G3 can withstand 44% more bend force than the iPhone 6 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 can withstand 66% more bend force than the iPhone 6. Regardless if the iPhone 6 is of sufficient design, it is still a huge difference.

Of course there are other types of tests besides a strict “bend from the middle/back of the phone” test, but never-the-less, this seems bad for Apple. I can see LG and Samsung using these or similar tests against the iPhone 6, setting up a kind of “durability” fight/campaign. I think I will hang on to my iPhone 5S

 

[Roller]

I don't see any bend whatsoever.

It will be fun to see what Apple says to you....think they will laugh!

But please do a little video of your visit to the Apple genius

I think some people here are being unfair to JDookie. I agree that the phone in the pic he posted doesn't look bent (it's hard to tell if the light along the edge indicates a small bend), and I'm sure that if I held the device myself I wouldn't notice anything wrong. But he said that he'd unbent the phone. I take him at his word when he says that the phone that was bent the most isn't available to him today and that he'll post a pic of it when he can. If he doesn't deliver on that promise, then you'll have grounds for complaint.

I like the video that someone posted a bit earlier in the thread that concluded that Apple should have considered making the iPhone 6 a bit thicker, which might have allowed for more structural integrity and a higher capacity battery. I'm willing to bet they'll pay more attention to this with the iPhone 7, which I'm sure is already on the drawing boards. But as I've said before, the majority of iPhone 6 users will be fine with the device as it is.

 

[Piggie]

Let me first state that I have no idea who made this picture. Saw it in a few other spots and REALLY wanted to post it here for a few reasons..

This is going to be fun.......

Thank you for posting that, and yes, it does seem to be exactly as show here in this image.

A natural weak point, and I am 100% sure, after a few weeks you could sample many iPhone 6+ models taken from the general public who are just using their phone as normal, check them out and find many have a small amount of bending.

The phones will still work fine, and these people won't care as they won't know.

When it comes time for people anywhere and even on these forums to buy a 6+ second hand from someone, it will be VERY interesting to see if, does it have any bends? will be a question, or people will be checking phones for bending before selling.

I'm sure when you receive your 2nd hand phone from a private seller, some are going to find a bend in it, and we will see how people react to this.

Definitely the thing this phone is going to be remembered for and an aspect that will be checked for in the reselling of them between people.

 

[stewy]

If you think this is going to silence the bend gate morons you're wrong. these dumbasses are going to keep bitching and making fun for years.
there is no silencing senseless apple haters, especially since it seems to be hip nowadays.

The reverse is also true... nothing will ever silence the android haters that think that Apple invented the rectangle.

 

[rsocal]

Very good post, and more or less my point, also. I think that the tests run by Apple and CR are pretty conclusive that this phone, while not a Abrams tank, is not a dainty flower, either. At the very least the tests show that bending these phones would require some pretty high pressure in the pocket, and I can't imagine someone not feeling it and saying to themselves, "Ouch. I need to get that phone out of my butt or thigh!" But that's just me. I have nerve endings in my skin...

Finally, some common sense applied!
Thank you!

 

[craznar]

IOf course there are other types of tests besides a strict “bend from the middle/back of the phone” test, but never-the-less, this seems bad for Apple.

It isn't bad for Apple - it isn't bad. It just is.

It is just the laws of materials science.

TO be honest, I got my 6+ after several days of Bananagate, and I was expecting a whispy little feather. Turns out the thing is damn solid.

However, ya'canna'change the laws of physics.

 

[Spoolx]

I love my iPhone 6, probably the best phone I've ever had. The fanboys in this thread though are pathetic.

The phone bends.

 

[fmcarv]

I love my iPhone 6, probably the best phone I've ever had. The fanboys in this thread though are pathetic.



The phone bends.

Have u tried it?

Photo?

 

[yansun]

Yep. There are always differences of opinion and that’s fine but here can at times be like a religious fanatics forum. Man that seemed like a co-ordinated attack.
You should grab a gum shield before Monday.

LOL, really though. Before you post on Monday pretend you are a rabid fanatic and try and prove yourself a liar. When you have difficulty doing so, only then is it the right time to post your evidence.

You must be a Samsung spy too!

 

[AppleScruff1]

Nobody will sit on it twice.

Especially if they sit on one of the points.

 

[H2SO4]

And not saying you have to agree, My whole point was that you have to take these new users' posts in the context of who you know them to be (i.e. we don't have any clue), just like you would in the physical "real" world. It isn't a blind bias to new users, taking the attitude that they can't have their say or provide input.

Unless I'm mistaken, I think we've agreed on things in the past, and also disagreed, so on this we have slightly differing views, big deal.

I actually personally feel that this unbox therapy guy is riding a dangerous wave for his week of fame - his videos contain several troubling inconsistencies and if it were found that he wasn't using genuine Apple devices or using pre-stressed or doctored devices, he could be in real legal trouble if Apple decides to press the issue.

It simply troubles me that the most respected international news agency in the entire world, CNN, reports that it is virtually impossible to bend the phone like that with your hands, and this guy first uses all his strength in the original video to bend it about 30 degrees, and then basically bends it in half like a stick of butter in the follow-up.

Don't really get a good gut feeling about that if you know what I mean...

What I mean is that even organisations such as CNN at best get things wrong sometimes and at worst, lie through their teeth, (I thought the BBC was the most respected BTW?).
It’s an old case but I direct you again to how Consumer Reports lied about the Suzuki Samurai.
I’m in management now and even in my company I see some cover ups going on and such fantastic use of semantics that make you ashamed.
Some guys you feel you can trust even on an Internet forum but end of the day we are all probably complete strangers.
It seems as if people are defending family members or friends here rather than some company who generally doesn’t even give half a **** what an individual thinks.
Your friend or brother may do something for you purely out of the goodness of their/his heart, hell a total stranger might do that too if the conditions are right.
But Apple will only do something for you if they get your money first or at the very least think they’re going to to get it at some stage. You try and get something else from them without the smell of money in the air and it’s all about the middle finger.

 

[saleheim]

Have u tried it?

Photo?

The Wired review was clear enough:

'Like a lot of people, I have a bent iPhone 6 Plus. It’s almost imperceptible, but it’s there: a slight warp right at the buttons on the side. Put the phone screen down on a table, and it wobbles.'
http://www.wired.com/2014/09/iphone-6-plus-review/

 

[H2SO4]

The problem is that Antenna gate was a myth, the science, the engineering all showed what was happening - however people like watching videos of people playing tricks. The same situation exactly is happening here - videos of people in uncontrolled situations.

So - I'm not defending Apple no matter what, however I am asking for actual evidence, nothing more nothing less.

Is that really to much too ask for ?

What do you mean exactly by the underlined part please?

 

[kas23]

I agree, bendgate has been a non-issue from the start.

What's ironic are all the people who are endlessly praising Consumer Reports right now. Remember when the iPhone 4 came out and CRs gave it a relatively poor rating due to Antennagate? Despite CRs historical high praise of ever other Apple product, remember all the CR bashing going at that time? It's ironic the board has taken a 180 since then.

 

[calzon65]

The problem is that Antenna gate was a myth, the science, the engineering all showed what was happening - however people like watching videos of people playing tricks. The same situation exactly is happening here - videos of people in uncontrolled situations.

So - I'm not defending Apple no matter what, however I am asking for actual evidence, nothing more nothing less.

Is that really to much too ask for ?

I think the science behind trying to prove or disprove "Antenna Gate" if far more complex than the extremely basic and easily replicate able science behind Consumer Reports' bend tests.