I've already got 3 security updates and my phone updated a week ago.
I'm running may 24 kernel with may 1 patch.that is not out of date.ive been getting an update every month or 2 with my phone.
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I've already got 3 security updates and my phone updated a week ago.
I'm running may 24 kernel with may 1 patch.that is not out of date.ive been getting an update every month or 2 with my phone.
Congratulations.... now what about the other 99.999% of the Android user base??
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Okay, so you seem to concede the security thing. That's smart. You call the "Apple implements it later but better" as "trope", yet there are countless examples of where this is true.
Finally, I'm not sure how you think listing a bunch of attributes speaks to any specific capability that's missing. However, I can answer your list and demonstrate how you're not missing anything with the items you mentioned.
1. Headphone jack - Blutooth, or if you really need to, simple adapter that comes in the box.
2. Back button - Top left hand corner has a software back button to switch back to previous app. Not to mention the various gestures available to accomplish the same.
3. App tray - What about it? iOS has one.
4. Home screen customization (widgets, etc) - Widgets in notification screen. One swipe access, lack of clutter like on Android.
5. File system access - For what? Each app has access to files. There's iCloud drive as well. iOS 11 on iPad gets a files app.
6. Mouse support - Useless on a smartphone.
7. Split-screen Multitasking - Useless on a smartphone. iOS has this on iPad where it makes more sense.
8. Themes - Wow... I guess you have me there. There is no functional value in this, but I guess you have to look pretty.
9. MicroSD card support - Do you also miss the poor performance, worrying about what you're storing and where you're storing it? How about the higher likelihood of file corruption, etc. Security concerns, etc?
10. Multiple User Support - Not very meaningful on a phone, but I would agree the iPad should have this feature.
11. Wireless Charging - Useless. It's slower and very particular about how it's lined up, etc. It's also not magic, Apple has this on their watch.
12. App switcher button - Do you mean like double clicking on the iPhone's home button?
13. Notifications light (on Sammy devices) - explain what you perceive to be the benefit here over standard iOS notifications.
This thread and your post is about the Galaxy s8 not Android in general.nice goal post move bud.
Nah. CR sucked from a tech standpoint in the 1990s too.
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CR lost credibility with me circa 1988 and it had nothing to do with Apple.
That entire post made me cringe and apparently, everything on that list is "useless". Poor guy is in his own little world.
Much worse is the 99.999% of iOS users who updated frequently but got their private orifice pictures leaked all over the internet by iOS/iCloud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud_leaks_of_celebrity_photos
Well, IP68 is not designed for that kind of depth. So it is logical it would fail at that depth. The only thing it proved is that Iphone survived the deep water test is due to fluke since in the controlled test I posted Iphone 7 didnt survive whereas S8 did.
From this test we can conclude that Iphone is quicker in opening games whereas S8 is quicker in apps.
But this is just about "opening" app.
What about using them? This is from years ago and nothing has changed much in Iphone wrt to the lethargic speed when scrolling through your data/pages. I dont even want to go into the slow and convoluted steps you need to do to change app settings or navigating back to apps which were opened in a workflow sequence.
You want to play the sensational (and security paranoid) game. How about this that said "hundreds of millions IOS devices affected".
https://blog.lookout.com/xcodeghost
If it is uncredible, then why see it all over the place that ios is worse than Android. Some of those studies go back quite a number of years ago.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ios+vs+android+stability+app+crash
Or take a look at this data on vulnerabilities. @techconc may be interested in this as well.
Overall iOS has more vulnerabilities than Android. It is not just recent times but goes quite far back as well. So all the iphone users should at least be awared of the reality instead taking in the myth that iphone is "safe" without questions.
IOS: http://www.cvedetails.com/product/15556/Apple-Iphone-Os.html?vendor_id=49
Android: http://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224
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Leaving out the personal comments, you can plainly see Android more than double the critical vulnerabilities than IOS for a period of about 1.5 years. It's not about the absolute number, it's about the criticality index. The myth that android is safer is absolute rubbish according to these statistics. You should at least be aware of the reality of the situation instead of the myth that android is "safe" without questions. I take more crashes over less critical vulnerabilities any day. And if you expand the time period, Android pulls far ahead of IOS in the measure of criticality.Since you have a symptom of denial, maybe let me help you to "elevate" your pain
If it is uncredible, then why see it all over the place that ios is worse than Android. Some of those studies go back quite a number of years ago.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ios+vs+android+stability+app+crash
Or take a look at this data on vulnerabilities. @techconc may be interested in this as well.
Overall iOS has more vulnerabilities than Android. It is not just recent times but goes quite far back as well. So all the iphone users should at least be awared of the reality instead taking in the myth that iphone is "safe" without questions.
IOS: http://www.cvedetails.com/product/15556/Apple-Iphone-Os.html?vendor_id=49
Android: http://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224
http://www.cvedetails.com/cvss-scor...15556&startdate=2016-01-01&enddate=2017-06-15
http://www.cvedetails.com/cvss-scor...19997&startdate=2016-01-01&enddate=2017-06-15
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It's a good thing google is immune to this type of thing.
http://thehackernews.com/2017/03/gmail-yahoo-password-hack.html
I didnt say android is safe/safer. I just said iOS is not safe as well.
Vulnerabilities are vulnerabilities. If you want to micro analyze, then yes, critical ones are more worrisome. But then I can go further and ask - how easy is it for hackers to exploit those critical vulnerabilities? What are pre-conditions? If a critical vulnerability can only affect few users then it may not be as sever as a middling vulnerability that can potentially affects thousands (or even millions) of users.
One other factor is about open-ness of OS. iOS is a pretty closed system. No source code of iOS is available publicly whereas Android source code is available openly. This means many more people can scrutinize the Android source code and find vulnerabilities. No such QA with iOS so don't be surprised that there are many more nasties lurking in the iOS source code undiscovered.
I think stability is also very important since it directly impacts the usage (or user satisfaction) of the phone. With all the reports on app stability, I think we can dispel the myth that iOS is more stable.
Context in analyzing vulnerabilities is important, not just the sheer number. If one is going to cite vulnerabilities, let's cite all the dimensions. You can find the answers to your question in cve. Probability of occurrence, ease of attack and damage/impact. For what ever reason android has twice the percentage in the red zone. With the android marketshare there is no such thing as a few users.
ios from all accounts is more stable; vulnerabilities is one part, crashes are another...so that myth is a fact.
So what are you implying? That iOS with half the critical but overall more vulnerabilities is safer than android? You can go ahead and think that if you want to. But if you ask me it is just cold comfort.
To the users, if apps keep crashing, they just view it that the "phone is unstable". It doesnt matter whether it is the fault of the app or OS.
LOL. No joke, but it was a typo. I meant 20 hours. If I forget to plug it in at night, it's dead or nearly so in the morning.
I was complaining because my wife can get nearly 3 days out of her old iPhone 5S (assuming no GPS, WIFI, or bluetooth) which she inherited from me when I switched to the S7. Her sister has the 6S Plus and it definitely needs charging more than the old 5S. But half a day? No way. Easily 24 hours with her 6S Plus.
You can make up your own determination, but you can't fight the facts. Android has more critical vulnerabilities than IOS.
Out of the world of possible things to happen due to critical vulnerabilities not getting patched timely; getting a bank account hacked, or a denial of service or whatever leads to the view the "phone is unfit" to the purpose. I can only speculate some people didn't like the apps crashing and went to android, while others didn't like being a victim of a zero day vulnerability on their mobile phone and went to IOS; so there's that aspect of it.
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What is fact is that Android has more KNOWN critical vulnerabilities (but fewer vulnerabilities than iOS). Like I said, because iOS is a black box, who knows how many critical vulnerabilities that are not known or how many that are known but concealed by Apple. So you are putting your entire trust in Apple to do the right thing by protecting its users first over its reputation and lifeline (iOS/iphone).
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The tens and tens of millions of consumers who bought iphone and contributed to apples revenue, do not care one whit, about a "black box" or not.
And yes, I put my trust in apple, not google. But you can ignore your own data and independent reporting (cve) and believe there is somehow a cover-up at apple. While, at the same time, dissecting source code is not easy and google is easily obfuscating facts. And, btw, your "closed source" comments apply to Microsoft and windows as well.
I love when people like this dude love to tell me what Im going to say in the future. Priceless.
But, comparing the 2018 iPhone to the 2018 Galaxy S8 is just a bit different then comparing a new model to a 2017 phone......right? Following along now?
The black S8 looks and feels exactly like a jet black iPhone 7. It just has a bigger screen.
The copy can never be better than the original.
Depends where you are. Apple is not present in all parts of the world, and where they are not, the service by their Authorised Agents absolutely sucks, it's like time travelling to the '70s. Samsung on the other hand is EVERYWHERE, with consistently great customer service, free screen replacements, etc.
& just *what* original are you referring to here? The iPhone 7 - which, let's face it.. is basically a 6+ with minor technical changes.
If so, then one could argue that the S7/S7 Edge took that design before hand.
Apple hasn't made an original device since the iPhone 4. Period. End of conversation.
Since then, their software, services, quality, feature releases and hardware updates have been a bad joke - coincidentally all happening shortly after Tim Crook came in control.
Oh.. and the fanbase has become insufferable. It's like 1985-1997 all over again - except this time, Apple products in that period were respectful to some degree. Now? A baited breath, year in, year out with no real technological advancements but a CEO whom believes in a Liberal approach to everything but his prices.
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No, I don't concede the Security thing. I'm agnostic on it. It's just not the reason why I choose Android, which was my point.
The "Apple implements better later" IS a trope. They've done it sometimes, yes. But that doesn't mean that they ALWAYS do it better, although it is ALWAYS later. That is why it is a trope. It isn't always better. And there's still a lot that's NOT there.
Regarding the list, it seems like you're not paying attention.
I'm not interested in debating it. I point out what I'd miss, or have to have a workaround, jerry-rig, whatever on an iPhone.
I USE everything on the list. It's all MISSING from iOS, period.
I don't care if you're happy with iOS's limitations. I choose to use something without them.
I follow it just fine. The two phones in question are 6 months out of sync. One is always newer than the other, but it will be a different story when the iPhone is the newer than the Galaxy. Then it won't be comparing the newest phone to one 6 months old.
Well for me I don't put any trust in any. I know both google and apple are software enterprises. And there are always bugs/vulnerabilities when three are millions of lines of code at play. And both platforms can't escape from these nasties even though they have implemented their security measures.
To say one o/s is safer than the other is just naive. The cve data showed that iOS is also full of vulnerabilities. Plus iOS also has its fair share of exploits like the icloud photo leaks, xcodeghost, location info leaks, emoji text crash etc.
Lesson is the most secure os becomes insecure depending on the action of the user. e.g jail break iOS or side load apps in android or ignoring certain basic security etiquette. If users don't do all these then both o/s platforms should be "secure enough" for any usage scenario.