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'Consumer Reports' Smacks Verizon iPhone Over Antenna Issues
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Someone has a differing opinion than you. Make fun of them about something that has nothing to do with their argument. They are old farts. Age-ism.
I love the fact that they exist to give their own valued opinion. I've been buying Apple for 10+ years.
Fanatics are annoying.
I love the fact that they exist to give their own valued opinion. I've been buying Apple for 10+ years.
Fanatics are annoying.
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The weird thing is, a lot of the complaints about this are mostly in the US. The iPhone 4 is being shipped worldwide, so why aren't we seeing the same level of complaints from other countries?
Also note that this issue crop up in weak signal areas. Since Verizon always claim that they have better 3G coverage than AT&T, I would think that Verizon iPhone 4 users shouldn't be much affected by this.
Also note that this issue crop up in weak signal areas. Since Verizon always claim that they have better 3G coverage than AT&T, I would think that Verizon iPhone 4 users shouldn't be much affected by this.
It doesn't matter what any of you think about Consumer Reports. The fact is, Apple cares what they say about their products.
oh maybe CR is just not taking all the bs Apple is shoving down the throats of consumers? who said CR has to agree with apple with anything?
Consumer Reports is Dumb
This is one of the many reasons why I no longer read or trust Consumer Reports.
This is one of the many reasons why I no longer read or trust Consumer Reports.
You guys just blow my mind. Myself and hundreds of thousands of people have experienced this issue, even in high signal areas! I must tell you that I love the iphone, but the fact that so many of you "fanboys" on here are ignoring the fact that there is a problem just blows my mind! Apple was even lying to us about how many bars we had with our iphone to begin with! But still the fanboys crawl from underneath their Apple beds and brush that off as well.....LOL that is why I love reading fanboys replies.....Steve Jobs himself could come to your house and slap you in the face and you would still say, "Oh he never came to my house and did that".......
Yep, it's a poor design. No question.
But the fact is I have not dropped any calls on my Verizon iPhone whereas I did on my 3Gs with AT&T.
So in the end isn't that what matters - dropped calls? CR even acknowledges that the reports of call drops for Verizon are lower. So if the phone works as a phone, regardless of the antenna issue, what's the big deal?
But the fact is I have not dropped any calls on my Verizon iPhone whereas I did on my 3Gs with AT&T.
So in the end isn't that what matters - dropped calls? CR even acknowledges that the reports of call drops for Verizon are lower. So if the phone works as a phone, regardless of the antenna issue, what's the big deal?
It's interesting to see so many people take issue with Consumer Reports directly, saying how insignificant they've become and how unqualified they are to test electronics.
CR consistently ranks Apple at the top of their articles on computers, both portables and desktops, and has been doing so for many, many years.
Based on the logic of these posters, maybe the public should take a closer look at offerings from Dell, HP, etc...
CR consistently ranks Apple at the top of their articles on computers, both portables and desktops, and has been doing so for many, many years.
Based on the logic of these posters, maybe the public should take a closer look at offerings from Dell, HP, etc...
Consumer Reports only touched the Android phones on the sides. The antennas on most if not all of those phones don't touch the sides -- attenuation would only take place if the phone was touched on the back. It's safe to say Consumer Reports is biased. They've lost all credibility this past year. Remember that time they had a huge section on tablets, and only mentioned the iPad once, in the intro, saying it was the "most popular and well known?" Then they went on to talk about all the great things about upcoming tablets that aren't even out yet and will be out god knows when, and refused to mention the iPad.
I can squeeze my Verizon iPhone as hard as I can and will still keep a call. At most I'll drop one single bar.
I can squeeze my Verizon iPhone as hard as I can and will still keep a call. At most I'll drop one single bar.
I've never owned a phone that kept its connection when you cover the antenna.
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LOL you are spot on.....suckling at the Steve Jobs teet, all of the fan boys are aren't they!
It's a thread about Consumer Reports. Should you really expect people not to post and share their opinions about them? And more to the point, a person's decision to share their view about Consumer Reports does not necessarily reflect how much they personally care about the organization.
On a side note, it is worth observing that the extent to which you care about these other members' opinions, in choosing to post in complaint about them, is relatively comparable to your comparison above.
As for their complaint, there is some legitimacy to it. You're defending Consumer Reports for being consistent, but they're not holding other phones to the same signal attenuation standard (clearly) as plenty of other phones (including some of their top recommendations) can easily duplicate the same issue. Additionally, if a company is wrong, or it does turn out that they've exaggerated a claim, the responsible thing to do is amend the report, not to dig in and preserve a lie or fiction. I'm not referring specifically to the iPhone 4 in this case (you absolutely can attenuate it by stifling it with your hand) but some consistency should not be commended.
Edit: I can agree with one thing. It is reasonable to hold the iPhone 4 on Verizon to the same standard the hold the iPhone 4 on AT&T. Any issue someone has with their handling of the iPhone 4 on AT&T aside, it would be pretty silly to hold each device to a separate standard.
Two notes:
1) Consumer Reports has often touted Apple as a leader in computer reliability, says the iPod is far away the best MP3 player, etc. They are not Apple haters. They have an issue with the antenna issue here, that's all.
2) This is not about making headlines. If there findings were: Verizon iPhone doesn't have antenna issues like the AT&T version -- it would still be news. In fact, it would likely be bigger news.
1) Consumer Reports has often touted Apple as a leader in computer reliability, says the iPod is far away the best MP3 player, etc. They are not Apple haters. They have an issue with the antenna issue here, that's all.
2) This is not about making headlines. If there findings were: Verizon iPhone doesn't have antenna issues like the AT&T version -- it would still be news. In fact, it would likely be bigger news.
I think that they are biased against all of Apple's products EXCEPT Mac computers and maybe iPods.
That's because no one is stupid enough to put the antenna where your bare hand holds the phone....please tell me you're not going to give me the Steve Job's you're holding it wrong excuse that I know you believed when all of this came to light are you?
I really like Consumer Reports for many product areas, but their electronics testing is done by tech nerds using special equipments and test patterns. A lot of features are covered to the extent they exist or not. They say the Blue-Ray player has Netflix streaming, check, but they never mention whether the interface is glitchy, image quality tends to be poor etc. That is my experience with the Panasonic Blu-Ray player that I bought based on their recommendation. Software is quite poor. They did not mention Canon DSLR's auto-exposure problems in non-flash low light conditions a few years ago, either. (My wife's cousin had that one.) Nikon I got turned out much better, but I guess the geeks don't test in real world scenarios.
They would have more credibility if they said, "Use it with a bumper or case so that you get better reception than other phones. Otherwise, you may run into problems." By the way, did they test the antenna in a Faraday cage again? That is not how antennas are tested, but that is how they did it the last time.
They would have more credibility if they said, "Use it with a bumper or case so that you get better reception than other phones. Otherwise, you may run into problems." By the way, did they test the antenna in a Faraday cage again? That is not how antennas are tested, but that is how they did it the last time.
Consumer reports is a joke. I stopped listening to them when they said "the iPhone 4 is the greatest smart phone in the world, we cannot recommend the iPhone 4."
Please.
Please.
Why doesn't consumer reports do a real world test and record when each phone loses reception and how often they drop calls in fringe areas instead of this lab testing?
If the iPhone 4 is only dropping calls where the 3GS or competing phones don't even have service, how could they recommend any of those if they don't recommend the iPhone 4?
If the iPhone 4 is only dropping calls where the 3GS or competing phones don't even have service, how could they recommend any of those if they don't recommend the iPhone 4?
That's not what I wrote. It is not what I believe now or what I believed in the past.clg82 said:
Back to the ignore list you go.
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