Control Center - Wifi and BT, DO NOT disable the radios

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  1. aeppert macrumors newbie

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    Per the attached PSA, toggling Wifi and BT do NOT turn off the radios in Control Center. They simple disassociate. So if you assume you are turning them off for power conservation, that is definitely not the case.

    I hope this is changed as it is definitely NOT an appropriate new feature. Disabling should be disabling, not a vague "disconnect and stay on".

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208086
     

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  2. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-toggles-in-control-center-is-stupid.2060979/
     
  3. techspin macrumors 6502a

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    Toggling airplane mode on then off also toggles on the Bluetooth icon even if it wasn't on before.
     
  4. hotrod98 macrumors newbie

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    This is just silly and needs to be fixed.....
     
  5. dannyyankou macrumors G3

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    Am I the only one who likes this feature? Sometimes I turn WiFi off in one building, then when I get home I forget to turn it back on and I’m wondering why the internet is so slow lol.

    Now it just connects automatically to known networks when you move around. You can still turn it off completely in settings or with Siri.
     
  6. hlfway2anywhere macrumors 65816

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    Probably because doing so has a minuscule effect on battery life and people who do that are probably the same people who ‘quit’ apps obsessively too.
     
  7. bruinsrme macrumors 603

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    Wow, good to know.
    I simply assumed it turned them off
     
  8. aeppert thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Disabling BT absolutely helps battery life.
     
  9. hansenc macrumors 6502

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    I've enjoyed this feature in the beta. Also if you turn Airplane mode on but then turn wifi and bluetooth back on it remembers this preference. Wish the watch allowed you to turn on Airplane mode and mirror on the iPhone but left bluebooth on so you still had control.
     
  10. ssspinball macrumors 6502

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    Then disable it in Settings.
     
  11. hlfway2anywhere macrumors 65816

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    no it doesn’t. not using any Bluetooth devices does. but Bluetooth being on and inactive or even connected to a Bluetooth LE device has very negligible effect on the battery life of the phone. fortunately the new control center lets us proactively disconnect from connected Bluetooth devices while still leaving the phone discoverable in case we decide to reconnect. and for those obsessive folks who constantly toggle features on and off and “quit” their apps in the switcher, Apple still provides a way to scratch their itch.
     
  12. Feenician macrumors 601

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    Count me as another that much prefers the new behavior.
     
  13. KGB7 Suspended

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    That is a sily "innovation". Who would want to disconnect from wifi on purpose?? Thats just crazy talk.

    OMG, im relevant now. People are talking about me. I feel so loved.:p
     
  14. jigzaw, Sep 20, 2017
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    jigzaw macrumors 6502

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    I really really dislike this. Leaving wifi on all the time when you're in public is a very bad habit for security. I'm also constantly turning wifi and bluetooth on and off depending on what I'm doing.

    Actually think I'm going to hold off on updating to 11 on my 6S Plus for now because of both this issue and the fact that the new control center is unwieldy and and unintuitive. I have 11 on my iPad Pro now and love a lot of the new features but totally hate the new control center as an overall experience. A grid of uniform squares doesn't lend itself to fast half-conscious taps like the old version did. Also, it enters you into the App Switcher and tosses Control Center to the far right of the screen, so it's no longer possible just to swipe up and tap something and then let the Center drop back down. That was all very intuitive and fast and now it's taking you to a whole other screen. You really have to focus on it and use 3D touch/long touch to do basic things like turn on Night Shift.. it's just too much.

    EDIT: after some more use of the iPad.. eh, maybe I'll get used to the layout of the Control Center, but I still am annoyed at the inability to quickly toggle wifi and bluetooth on and off. Seems like a step back.
     
  15. Jayson A macrumors 68000

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    You shouldn't be turning off bluetooth or wifi. They're not affecting your battery as much as you may think. My bluetooth and wifi are on 24/7 and my phone lasts days on a single charge.
     
  16. x34 macrumors 6502a

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    sure, if not weeks! LOL
     
  17. Jayson A macrumors 68000

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    I'm serious though. I can go 2 days without charging my phone and I certainly don't turn off bluetooth or wifi and I use bluetooth audio in my car to and from work. Not weeks obviously, but I get plenty of life out of my battery throughout the day.
     
  18. jigzaw macrumors 6502

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    Ok, so after all my whining above, I was sounding to myself like a grumpy old man so I'm doing more reading and think that I could get used to this. I do hope they eventually include an optional switch in Settings to control whether the Control Center toggle turns wifi/bluetooth all the way off or just disconnects. I'll give it a shot in the real world and see what I think, but honestly I am so habituated to turning off wifi every time I leave a home or work because I don't want my phone trying to connect to every Starbucks I walk or drive by. I've always read that leaving Wi-Fi on at all times in public is a real security hazard and opens the door to hackers. So.. yeah, I might still be digging into the Settings to turn the thing off and on all the time and that doesn't sound fun.

    I'm going to give the new C.C. layout a chance and try customizing it, especially since there are so many other features to 11 that are compelling. On my iPad, I will say the new way of typing numbers is fantastic.
     
  19. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    There shouldn't be any security threat unless you are connected to some WiFi network that is compromised and you are doing something on your device that could give away some private information or something like that.
     
  20. jigzaw macrumors 6502

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    Ok here's another question regarding this wifi/bluetooth thing. They still appear "on" or "off". So when I turned bluetooth "off" it disconnected from my AirPods. Ok, so that was expected. But since bluetooth is still officially on, why would you turn the C.C. switch back to "on" again? What does that do? I just did that thinking it would force-reconnect to my Airpods or something and nothing happened.. Not sure what the "on" or "off" statuses for Wifi and bluetooth are supposed to signify now...?

    Does having them in "off" mode mean they won't seek or connect to anything?
     
  21. kucharsk macrumors regular

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    The semantics are slightly different; from the online manual (https://help.apple.com/iphone/11/#/iph59095ec58)

    Disconnect from the current Wi-Fi network.

    Tap [​IMG]. To reconnect, tap it again. To see the name of a connected Wi-Fi network, press [​IMG] (touch and hold the button on devices without 3D Touch).

    Because Wi-Fi isn’t turned off when you disconnect from a network, AirPlay and AirDrop still work, and iPhone joins known networks when you change locations or restart iPhone. To turn off Wi-Fi, go to Settings > Wi-Fi. (To turn on Wi-Fi again in Control Center, tap [​IMG].)

    Disconnect from Bluetooth devices.

    Tap [​IMG]. To allow connections, tap the button again.

    Because Bluetooth isn’t turned off when you disconnect from devices, location accuracy and other services are still enabled. To turn off Bluetooth, go to Settings > Bluetooth. To turn on Bluetooth again in Control Center, tap [​IMG].​
     
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