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Controversial but Beautiful – What controversial object/person do you find beauty in?

Serial killers. There's some sort of odd attraction to the mystique they obtain by commiting things that most people never do. Jeffrey Dahmer pre-murders...ugly and boring. Jeffrey Dahmer post-murders...fascinating.
 
Abstract said:
Hair "down there" on women.
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Kind of expanding on that, what about hair elsewhere on women, like underarm hair and leg hair. I should hope most women have the same attitude devilot has about it, that they do it for themselves and not society at large or for their partners. Besides, I don't mind leg hair on women at all, I'd be a hypocrite a few months out of the year if I did. Besides, it gets to a point where its rather soft...


Anyway, back on topic. Some other things:

Blood
Body modification, even (and especially) when its taken to the extreme. I find it facinating.
BDSM
The Citroen SM
Some of the culture of the 1950s (US)
Emo boys
Coffins
 
vniow said:
Kind of expanding on that, what about hair elsewhere on women, like underarm hair and leg hair.
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Never minded a little leg or arm fuzz, long as it's not too thick. Even had a friend who had a little fuzz on her tummy that was visible. It was kinda cute. Guess it's a Euro thing. But too hairy, and it looks too much like a dude, and even those of us gay friendly and secure in our manhoods get a little uncomfortable. I don't even like my underarm hair, and though I'm not going to get a Brazilian or anything, but if I'm going to clean myself up, I'd like the same of my partner.

Down there is up to them, I'm just happy to be invited. :D

Blood
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Edit: Yeah, I'm just not going to go there after all... TMI.
 
devilot said:
That's working from the assumption that women are managing their pubic hair for the sake of men, I think that comes across androcentric.

Can't a woman decide for herself, independent of a partner (who might not even be male), if she prefers her body hair to be one way or another?
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MarkCollette said:
Damn straight! :) Maybe I've been single too long, but I realised that I have to look at my body way more than anyone else, so whatever I do to it, is inevitably more for me than anyone else.
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We do almost everything for the sake of the opposite sex, and sex, so I don't really buy it that in some westernized countries, where the men prefer that area shaved, just happen to have women who also prefer shaving it; while in the majority of the world, where men don't give a hoot if it's shaved or not, the women don't care either. Coincidence?

And I find it strange that you do acknowledge what I said to be true about men desiring it because of man's desire for youth, and then agree with what Devilot said. It's a very recent cultural phenomenon for women to shave there, and it just happens to coincide in a society where men started to prefer "shaved"?
It's sort of like men preferring large breasts, and women getting breast implants. Some women may have gotten breast enhancement because it makes them more confident, but if big breasts wasn't somewhat linked to men's desires, I doubt it'd be an issue for women at all.

Or maybe I'm wrong and some women started shaving down there, which then became a desirable trait that men looked for and preferred. I don't think so, but we'll never know, I guess.
 
I really think people's faces, especially older ones with character wrinkles...are incredible.

Beyond that...I think freckles in odd places are 'cute'. And I love seeing old, seaport stuff...like old scrubbed up boats and piers. I guess that's not very controversial :rolleyes:
 
bartelby said:
And the DS. Beautiful cars!!
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Another vote here for the DS - beautiful cars indeed.

And like Abstract, I also have a preference for hairy muffs - within reason, of course.
 
World Trade Center

I always thought the World Trade Center was gorgeous. Almost the perfect skyscraper(s), IMO.

Of course, now, it's completely controversial. Some saw it as a symbol of everything that was wrong with America/The World (I think some ****** called it our Tower of Babel).

(OT:There's a building that looks quite similar, built by the same architect, in Chicago. Used to be the Amaco building... now I think it's the Aon Center. It's (.)(.) too.)
 
solvs said:
I don't even like my underarm hair, and though I'm not going to get a Brazilian or anything...
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:confused: I was under the impression that what I'd be calling (and getting) a "Brazilian" you're not quite able to get as well... I sort of assumed you identify as a man and have male bits, too.

Abstract said:
We do almost everything for the sake of the opposite sex...
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Er, so how do you explain lesbian women or bi women (who are with female partners) shaving?

Abstract said:
It's a very recent cultural phenomenon for women to shave there...
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Perhaps it has gained popularity in recent times, but how would you explain women who have been waxing or shaving for hundreds of years, or even contemporary young girls who experimented?

Abstract said:
It's sort of like men preferring large breasts, and women getting breast implants. Some women may have gotten breast enhancement because it makes them more confident, but if big breasts wasn't somewhat linked to men's desires, I doubt it'd be an issue for women at all.
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I don't think the breast issue is a great analogy. Larger breasts have been seen as a symbol of fertility for years and years-- not just sex objects for hetero men.

Abstract said:
Or maybe I'm wrong and some women started shaving down there, which then became a desirable trait that men looked for and preferred. I don't think so, but we'll never know, I guess.
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*shrug* I experimented with shaving long long long before I even anticipated being kissed much less showing my vulva to anyone. And to this day, my boyfriend wishes I would grow my hair out more but I prefer to do my own thing.
 
devilot said:
*shrug* I experimented with shaving long long long before I even anticipated being kissed much less showing my vulva to anyone. And to this day, my boyfriend wishes I would grow my hair out more but I prefer to do my own thing.
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I think that's the best policy. We should all shave what we want to shave. :eek: ;) :D
 
red hair

and oh yes.... shaved (or whatever gets rid of the hair)

To those who suggested it... it has nothing to do with a young thing fantasy... its just a preference.

one more for the list:

Vampires (the nosferatu kind)
 
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