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Controversial but Beautiful What controversial object/person do you find beauty in?
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Mmm, by conventional standards there is certainly "pretty red hair" and "unfortunate red hair" -- the light, frizzy, carrot-toppy kind paired with really pale skin. But red hair + freckles is just too adorable.
But it is beautiful.
I'm not denying that...
Mmm, by conventional standards there is certainly "pretty red hair" and "unfortunate red hair" -- the light, frizzy, carrot-toppy kind paired with really pale skin. But red hair + freckles is just too adorable.
What about red hair, freckles and pale skin?
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I can't really speak for women, but I can kind of regurgitate what some have told me. Basically, women are competitive with each other. In some ways they're competing for us, but in other ways it's really just about ranking themselves. So, when they get breast implants, and other little sexy things, there's only so much you can attribute to them trying to impress us guys. For example, my best friend is a girl, and she tells me about how girls sometimes look each other up and down and act all bitchy to each other in the girls' washroom. There's no guy there they're competing for, they're just trying to demoralise each other.
Plus, even when they're trying to get our attention, there's kind of a feedback loop, and it's not all straight forward. For most guys, we see the shaved thing first, and possibly come to like it, and then maybe later ask for it. So, it's already being done, before we're aware of it. Are women projecting our potential desire for it, and thus bothering to do all that work? Do they just like the look on themselves? Or some combination?
Ahh, but I like looking young, virile and healthy. Sure, I want women to see me that way too. But I derive satisfaction from it, in of itself. So, that's how I can acknowledge both of your points. I guess the point at stake is, to what degree do we do these things for ourselves, and to what degree do we do it for others. And I bet that's a very complex and ever changing situation to assess.
But again, we probably shouldn't discount the desire in a woman to not have her oral interrupted by their partner stopping, and coughing up a fur ball
Again, can't speak for the ladies, but I've observed that women construct a notion of acceptability by consensus. For any trend to take hold, one of the more adventurous types will give something new a whirl, or maybe one of the more klutzy ones will stumble onto something
, and if it generally works out, that will capture the imaginations of others, until a tipping point occurs, where that new behaviour is accepted and expected amongst the group. Eventually, the consensus spreads far enough, and becomes entrenched in popular culture enough, that the behaviour is de facto assumed. (Not that I know what de facto means, but it made me feel smart using it ) Anyways, I assume it's the same with shaving.Fracking nuke it from orbit
Ok, what ever the male version is. I really don't want to know, lest I get drunk some night and get one. Like I wish I didn't know what a Prince Albert was.
Count me in on the red head thing. Can't believe there are people who don't like such things. But apparently the guys from South Park find "gingers" creepy, so you know, whatever.
Like I wish I didn't know what a Prince Albert was.
I know, right? That's one place where I don't want no gender parity! I think female genital piercings can be really cute and fun, if someone wants them (but of course it's totally their thing), but PA sounds painful for everyone involved!
Of course she can...why on earth not? This can be a preference focus for many people. Others may have no opinion at all. In cases where it is a matter of importance, it may not be the person who has primary ownership and management that sees it as such. I would love to be a fly on the wall, when a heated argument over this subject erupted (maybe once).
A lady once asked me to have a 'sculpture job' done, in the shape of a heart, and dyed red. I laughed. When she repeated the request, I suggested she get a mohawk. Somehow, that relationship just never worked out.
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I don't think he's beautiful, but he is controversial and interesting: Albert Speer
EDIT: and also, the Nuremberg Party Rallies. Extraordinarily well-staged, and masterful in their artistry and execution.
I don't think you are going to do too well writing a philosophy paper if this is the approach you take.. asking MR forum members. Philosophy isn't quite sociology, y'know . You should be reading Heidegger - or, my favorite Derrida on Heidegger's aesthetics (summary: Heidegger found 'Being' in a painting of peasant shoes which D. then finds Nazi ideology like blood and soil etc.). And of course, since you are wondering about beauty, you must read Kant on aesthetics - and the sublime. In fact, come to think of it, if you are interested in the ugly being beautiful, you should be reading Lyotard... Do some research, dude!
Me, I love Yoko Ono. She's a little old for my tastes now, but she has a beautiful mind!
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. You should be reading Heidegger - or, my favorite Derrida on Heidegger's aesthetics (summary: Heidegger found 'Being' in a painting of peasant shoes which D. then finds Nazi ideology like blood and soil etc.). And of course, since you are wondering about beauty, you must read Kant on aesthetics - and the sublime. In fact, come to think of it, if you are interested in the ugly being beautiful, you should be reading Lyotard... Do some research, dude!Me, I love Yoko Ono.
She's a little old for my tastes now, but she has a beautiful mind!yt
