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Homepage has changed lots of times within a single month before SJ's passing, and not just when new products were released.
https://web.archive.org/web/*/apple.com
I remember downloading Corel Painter 9 and being totally baffled.
This is the best post I've ever read on MacRumors.
This is the best post I've ever read on MacRumors.
I have to comment a little, as I used to use Bibble as raw conversion tool before moving to Aperture two three years ago, and still have After Shot Pro v1 on my machine. To be clear, Corel bought Bibble and Aftershot Pro was developed from it.
I moved to Aperture because I needed the cataloguing my stuff, and this clearly was not Bibble's strength. I haven't looked if they developed that side in
ASP.
Where is ASP is nice is that they have allowed developers to create plugins that really work in raw space and are non-destructive. So no tiff-creating there. There is lots of plugins around, some free, others cheap. Perspective corrections etc.
Aperture's ability to brush in effects is superior to ASP among other things, but I really think that Corel has now a real chance to come to playground and evolve.
I moved to Aperture because I needed the cataloguing my stuff, and this clearly was not Bibble's strength. I haven't looked if they developed that side in
ASP.
Where is ASP is nice is that they have allowed developers to create plugins that really work in raw space and are non-destructive. So no tiff-creating there. There is lots of plugins around, some free, others cheap. Perspective corrections etc.
Aperture's ability to brush in effects is superior to ASP among other things, but I really think that Corel has now a real chance to come to playground and evolve.
Only part of that which enticed me was the part about HDR (although apparently not available for Mac yet). I think for Lightroom to be offered as a complete photography suite, it needs to be able to offer HDR and photo-merge (panorama) functionality. I'm not upgrading to a CC subscription purely to use Photoshop CC for those two functions, they should be included with Lightroom as I feel they are the two Photoshop tools which photographers would want to use most.
Crap UI
I went to download the trial. Wow. Not even retina-ready, and the UI looked like something I last remember CorelDraw ca. 1994. Horrible. I could never use this crap. The UI of LightRoom isn't much better either. I guess I'll stick with Aperture until it ultimately breaks or a better app comes around from someone, or Photos can do what it does.
I went to download the trial. Wow. Not even retina-ready, and the UI looked like something I last remember CorelDraw ca. 1994. Horrible. I could never use this crap. The UI of LightRoom isn't much better either. I guess I'll stick with Aperture until it ultimately breaks or a better app comes around from someone, or Photos can do what it does.
Like vultures from the sky all these photo editing software companies are swooping down at prospective Aperture-abandoners...Time to keep an eye out on the photo editing section of the App store for impending sales!!
Sorry, "Aperture abandoners"? I think you'll find its apple abandoning its very strong core photography users, like myself. I could say to myself that my 20k plus photos are fine sitting in an old version of Aperture and never update (unless i get a new camera and its RAW files won't be supported, but i know whats coming next. A heavy handed move by apple that will say that Aperture won't work on Yosemite, so i'll be stuck with outdated OS on an iMac i purchased 6 months ago OR i have to find one of the competitors that gives the easiest transfer of my files, ratings and folders. I shouldn't have to be forced to do this, and this is what apple is doing by pulling the rug from under my feet.
C3P0: Obi-wan sir, you need to get out of the Jundland Wastes more often. Beggar's Canyon seems to have formed a kind of walled garden.
Really though, negative response on MR, specifically to non Apple products, is so often indicative of a product worth checking out. I look forward to doing so for ASP2. It is unfortunate Corel never released the Draw Suite for Mac though. Certainly one thing I miss about the old PC days. Via VM just doesn't cut it when one gets used to OSX.
I'm sure some people will, but I'm kind of sad about this myself too. But hey, I'm using Yosemite right now and thank goodness Aperture is still working. I was glad to hear they weren't planning on abandoning Final Cut Pro X.
I'm pissed too... Aperture was supposed to set the standard and be for PRO users. Seems like Apple is now trying to erase the line between pro and casual users by mixing everything into a few apps and the pro users are taking a big hit for this move. Pro apps existed by themselves for a reason, not for tweens to edit selfies and YouTube vlogs about random stuff. Save that for iMovie/iPhoto. Ugh.
Corel??? They are still in business??? Man...
Well, with Aperture, I was wondering when this would happen to be frank. Sad that I now know for sure that Apple has killed one of its VERY successful application creation, that pioneered the RAW management and editing tool. I was a VERY happy customer since its inception but ever since Aperture 3, I didn't really see much improvements and frankly, started to lag behind others in terms of rendering and features. Though I must admit, it still trumps others in terms of UI tidiness and speed. It's still capable for some older cameras but my recent purchase of Leica M made me think hard of switching because Aperture just couldn't handle the moire issues from the ultra sharp images.
So I gave Lightroom a try and subscribe to their deal (Photoshop and Lightroom CC at that reduced price package). I am happy to say that it performs brilliantly. All files are clean and crisp. I had done a comparison between the two in my blog if any of you wants to see the comparison. The blog was written before I made the switch last year. Now I am happy and know that Adobe WILL continue to develop LR and of course PS for a very long time. Just that I need to learn from scratch for LR.
My blog is http://talktog.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/blog-adobe-lightroom-5-vs-apple-aperture-3-5/
It's not too specific but it highlighted my concern between the two softwares.
Apple, I am a little disappointed in you
J
Well, with Aperture, I was wondering when this would happen to be frank. Sad that I now know for sure that Apple has killed one of its VERY successful application creation, that pioneered the RAW management and editing tool. I was a VERY happy customer since its inception but ever since Aperture 3, I didn't really see much improvements and frankly, started to lag behind others in terms of rendering and features. Though I must admit, it still trumps others in terms of UI tidiness and speed. It's still capable for some older cameras but my recent purchase of Leica M made me think hard of switching because Aperture just couldn't handle the moire issues from the ultra sharp images.
So I gave Lightroom a try and subscribe to their deal (Photoshop and Lightroom CC at that reduced price package). I am happy to say that it performs brilliantly. All files are clean and crisp. I had done a comparison between the two in my blog if any of you wants to see the comparison. The blog was written before I made the switch last year. Now I am happy and know that Adobe WILL continue to develop LR and of course PS for a very long time. Just that I need to learn from scratch for LR.
My blog is http://talktog.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/blog-adobe-lightroom-5-vs-apple-aperture-3-5/
It's not too specific but it highlighted my concern between the two softwares.
Apple, I am a little disappointed in you
J
I personally don't like Lightroom due to the clunky 'who the hell designed this?' interface. I actually went to Lightroom but found it so horrible compared to Aperture I found no use for it, despite the extra features. So continued with Apple's product.
The first major RAW tool I used was Capture One. That's not initially intuitive but its 'recipes' concept is fast and powerful for pro workflows. May well return.
Bibble (Aftershot before being bought by Corel) I nearly adopted as it was just so damn speedy and responsive. In fact, I can't actually say why I didn't go with it and went Aperture. Probably because it didn't have as much publicity.
One thing that's a bit ambiguous - Apple say Photos replaces iPhoto AND Aperture. Does this mean, at least eventually, the built-in App will be suitable for pro-level work? It's not clear.
The first major RAW tool I used was Capture One. That's not initially intuitive but its 'recipes' concept is fast and powerful for pro workflows. May well return.
Bibble (Aftershot before being bought by Corel) I nearly adopted as it was just so damn speedy and responsive. In fact, I can't actually say why I didn't go with it and went Aperture. Probably because it didn't have as much publicity.
One thing that's a bit ambiguous - Apple say Photos replaces iPhoto AND Aperture. Does this mean, at least eventually, the built-in App will be suitable for pro-level work? It's not clear.
That is my hope for Photos .... Having used the new photo app in IOS 8 I like the fact the correction is super dumbed down (what the average user, like my wife wants) and also allows you to adjust brightness, black point, exposure, contrast etc... independently like I want. If Apple can accomplish a simple to use interface for Facebook users, and Aperture power as needed that would be great.
At the risk of sounding naïve:
http://techcrunch.com/2014/06/27/ap...ture-and-transition-users-to-photos-for-os-x/
So you could still use Aperture on Yosemite. Probably. After that, though...
I think that's what Apple wants us to believe. But considering how long it took them to re-implement pro-level features in FCP X, you shouldn't expect anything worthwhile until 2017.
Did I read somewhere Apple was kind of helping Adobe to develop a solution to transition Aperture library to LR? I can't find that référence but I kind of remember reading that
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"use of a more Aperture-like file system"
It's funny: back then when I evaluated Lr vs Aperture it was exactly this which put me off: Aperture's attempt to hide the photos "somewhere in the filesystem" (among other factors such as import and overall speed - even back then Aperture just felt "sluggish").
So glad I did the right choice back then But am sad that another competitor is gone
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When you define "worthwile" = "professional" (aka "what we have now in Aperture") - forget it! You'll wait forever!
At least Apple was so open and announce a "cooperation with Adobe" for a migration path from Aperture to Lightroom. That alone tells stories...
It's funny: back then when I evaluated Lr vs Aperture it was exactly this which put me off: Aperture's attempt to hide the photos "somewhere in the filesystem" (among other factors such as import and overall speed - even back then Aperture just felt "sluggish").
So glad I did the right choice back then
But am sad that another competitor is gone ----------
When you define "worthwile" = "professional" (aka "what we have now in Aperture") - forget it! You'll wait forever!
At least Apple was so open and announce a "cooperation with Adobe" for a migration path from Aperture to Lightroom. That alone tells stories...
It'd be good to know how plugin-savvy Photos is or if it's modular? i.e. Could they have a 'pro suite for Photos' as a download on the App Store? One of the nice things about Aperture is that it integrated nicely into other Apps like iPhoto does/did. Making Photos 'pro' seems like a good idea.
The funny thing is, I'm pretty sure I often saw Aperture as a 'highest grossing app' on the App Store. Drop in the ocean as far as Apple are concerned most likely but surely an area worth exploiting going forward?
Corel has been a mess for almost 15 years. I thought they were going to go bankrupt at one point. It just seems that with Adobe focussing on subscriptions with Creative Cloud that Corel might have a chance with CorelDRAW on the Mac. Photo-Paint doesn't know what it is supposed to be: a Photoshop competitor or a simple add-on to the suite.
CorelDRAW is good software. If Corel acted quickly and released their newest version on the Mac it might stand a chance. At this point I'm going to be surprised if there are any new releases of CorelDRAW going forward.
So do I – but the only source for that statement was TechCrunch – and they retracted that quote.
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You can make an argument that essentially replacing a moderately priced piece of software (Aperture) with a free piece of software (Photos) isn't good for the bottom line, especially if Photos really is designed with some measure of professional tools in mind.
However, stream-lining the number of products they offer makes a certain amount of sense, and allowing some measure of scalability within the program is a good way to keep things simple for those who want that and providing extended features for those who want that.
For those that need a more reliable option, AfterShot Pro 2 is an option I wasn't familiar with. For the time being, Aperture 2 will be fine for my needs, but I'm not a pro in that field. Heck, more than half of the time, iPhotos on an iPad gives me enough tools to satisfactorily modify my images.
