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No one in Materials Science Engineering describes a polymer product as a composition. It's a multi-layered, custom designed set of composite materials, but never a composition.
 
Why do phone screens don't scratch until 6-7 level of hardness (youtube tests) but they scratch every time I put them in my pocket? I don't think my pockets have minerals in it, to be able to scratch the display.
That’s what I’m saying. My iPhone X has a little scratch on the display from just normal pocket use.
 
No. It's Gorilla Glass. For some odd reason (marketing) Apple doesn't want the world to know it's Gorilla Glass.

Apple uses Gorilla Glass, Apple doesn’t want their name to be seen on an off the shelf part list surrounded by a bunch of generic android manufacturers.

Correct. Apple doesn't like their suppliers using Apple's name to promote themselves, so you won't find Apple's name on the supplier's website or advertising ware. All part of the contract when working with Apple.

No mention of Apple on www.foxxcon.com (motherboards for all Apple gear), or Micron (supplies memory) or Samsung / LG (builds iphone / laptop screens and supplies some of the storage and various other bits) etc.

Those in the industry know, and Apple likes it that way. Or you can open your apple device and see their names there, or just check media coverage.
 
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To be honest it seems to have gotten a lot better. I saw a TON of broken iPhone 4's, a few broken iPhone 5's, and progressively fewer broken iPhone 6's and 7's. Haven't seen a broken X yet. Actually I'm not sure I've ever seen a broken iPhone 7 or 8 in the wild.
 
To be honest it seems to have gotten a lot better. I saw a TON of broken iPhone 4's, a few broken iPhone 5's, and progressively fewer broken iPhone 6's and 7's. Haven't seen a broken X yet. Actually I'm not sure I've ever seen a broken iPhone 7 or 8 in the wild.
I just saw my first broken 8 the other day. No broken X yet either tho.
 
If it didn’t have unprecedented protection they really wouldn’t be doing their job properly would they?
I get it, but they actually said the unprecedented part regarded multiple drop durability. Could be the same breakage in single drop tests as it’s predecessor. Could be more scrathable but less breakable. Just sayin. Your joke is still funny.
 
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Why do phone screens don't scratch until 6-7 level of hardness (youtube tests) but they scratch every time I put them in my pocket? I don't think my pockets have minerals in it, to be able to scratch the display.
Maybe stop putting rocks/keys/other metal objects in your pocket with the phone? I'v gone through 3 generations of iPhone, used hard every day, and carried (by themselves) in a front pocket - no scratch on any of the screens.
 
I feel like some days I drop my phone 7 times in a day and I've had cell phones for 18+ years (iPhone since 3GS). I don't know anyone that doesn't drop their phone. I think I need new friends. :(

With that - my $12 case seems to keep it protected.
 
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Perhaps if users didn't drop then frequent there would be no need for this. Accidents do happen, but no one would say "I can now drop this" falling back on Gorilla Glass 6 for protection...

This undermines the tech its built on. This would be only relevant to drop testers.. who would drop just about anything, anywhere.

Were using Gorilla Galas as a basis now for "Can i reliably drop this". as what the question should be "What am i holding, is it technology"

The goal posts have shifted.

Its still good, but why take the risk.
 
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Statement from Corning: “We really mean it, you guys. Take our word for it. We’re totally cereal this time. Just don’t do those drop tests. Ok?”
 
Why do phone screens don't scratch until 6-7 level of hardness (youtube tests) but they scratch every time I put them in my pocket? I don't think my pockets have minerals in it, to be able to scratch the display.

I have the exact same problem. YouTube tests are usually don’t with metal screws or keys but the sand in pants pockets are probably harder. This is why I always have a case that has edges slightly higher than the screen surface.
 
Gorilla Glass - ultra hard, shatter resistant. More durable than anything before it.
Gorilla Glass 2 - ultra hard, shatter resistant. More durable than the last one. Offers "unprecedented protection."
Gorilla Glass 3 - ultra hard, shatter resistant. More durable than the last one. Offers "unprecedented protection."
Gorilla Glass 4 - ultra hard, shatter resistant. More durable than the last one. Offers "unprecedented protection."
Gorilla Glass 5 - ultra hard, shatter resistant. More durable than the last one. Offers "unprecedented protection."
Gorilla Glass 6 - ultra hard, shatter resistant. More durable than the last one. Offers "unprecedented protection."

I guess it's true what they say... If you say it enough, people will believe it.
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Perhaps if users didn't drop then frequent there would be no need for this. Accidents do happen, but no one would say "I can now drop this" falling back on Gorilla Glass 6 for protection...

This undermines the tech its built on. This would be only relevant to drop testers.. who would drop just about anything, anywhere.

Were using Gorilla Galas as a basis now for "Can i reliably drop this". as what the question should be "What am i holding, is it technology"

The goal posts have shifted.

Its still good, but why take the risk.

Corning should be held to account. Apple should engineer a software solution that uses sensors to determine if the phone was dropped and made a hard landing. The first 15 trigger events or drops where at any point the glass fails should be covered by Corning. Above that, the glass did it's job as advertised and you're responsible for repairs. Then, and only then, will we actually see performance meet the amazing claims they make.

I personally think it's ********. Lab tested ********. It does not represent real life usage.
 
We hear this kind of hyperbole with every new generation of Gorilla Glass. It's always "x times stronger", "x times more scratch resistant" etc. And then you drop it a relatively small distance and it shatters. Same old thing.
 
And you know what Apple will do? They'll make their thinnest glass yet and piss away any improvements in strength.
 
This offers no real test of today's phones, but my original iPhone 1, yeah, just iPhone, was dropped so many times, and only when I smacked it out of a roommate's hand and it hit the concrete did it get tiny cracks in the corner and still works to this day, albeit without without cell service. :D

Of course, I still got a case for my iPhone 8 Plus. :D
 
I feel like I keep reading the same story for every generation of Gorilla Glass. This is THE ONE that finally won't break! But to me it never seems much better. iPhone 8/X glass seems to shatter just as easily as the first iPhone 11 years ago.
 
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