Corning Unveils 'Project Phire' Super Scratch-Resistant Glass

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Corning today unveiled a new material that it's been working on, which combines the strength of its existing Gorilla Glass with ultra scratch-resistance like that of sapphire, reports CNET. The material, which goes by the name "Project Phire," was shown off during an investor meeting by Corning Glass president James Clappin.
    Corning's existing Gorilla Glass product is used in a range of smartphone and tablet displays, from Samsung's Galaxy line to Apple's own iOS lineup. Apple planned to move away from Corning's Gorilla Glass with the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, switching instead to sapphire produced by GT Advanced, but was unable to use the material due to production issues that later saw the dissolution of the partnership between the two companies.

    According to Corning, Gorilla Glass is superior to sapphire due to sapphire's brittleness and tendency to shatter when dropped. Corning has on several occasions pitted Gorilla Glass against sapphire to highlight the former's benefits -- lighter weight, greater strength, and lower pricing.

    Gorilla Glass 4, Corning's most recent product, is even more resistant to shattering when it falls onto hard, rough surfaces than previous versions of Gorilla Glass, but it is unable to match the scratch resistant properties of sapphire crystal. Sapphire is second only to diamond when it comes to hardness, and Apple already uses the material to protect the iPhone's rear camera and Touch ID fingerprint sensor from scratches.

    Apple's desire to produce iPhone displays with greater scratch resistance may make Corning's "Project Phire" material highly appealing to the company for use in next-generation devices, as it could potentially serve as a more affordable, easier to acquire replacement for sapphire.

    Article Link: Corning Unveils 'Project Phire' Super Scratch-Resistant Glass
  2. farewelwilliams macrumors 68000

    Jun 18, 2014
    isn't the point of sapphire not only for durability, but for the improved viewing experience too?
  3. Skika macrumors 68030

    Mar 11, 2009
    Why does scratch resistant glass/sapphire matter so much when in reality its the oleophobic coating that gets scratched and leaves marks the most?
  4. AngerDanger, Feb 6, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2015

    AngerDanger macrumors 68040


    Dec 9, 2008
    Nothing conveys the shear strength of Gorilla Glass quite like a slightly meek looking gorilla huddled on a crosswalk.

  5. The Mercurian macrumors 68000

    Mar 17, 2012
    You raise a valid point. I question the ferocity of the gorillas with which Corning test their Gorilla Glass.

    And what does Gorilla Glass 4 even mean ? Does that mean the glass is resistant to 4 meek gorillas ??!?!?!? What the hell is that in the real world ?? :(
  6. Karma*Police macrumors 68000

    Jul 15, 2012
    Give me either option. I've never owned a smartphone that didn't end up with hairline scratches.
  7. orioncrystalice macrumors 6502


    Jan 21, 2014
    the plot thickens. I hope people don't think this has just now been whistled into creation and :apple: had no idea.
  8. Ronm01 macrumors newbie


    Dec 31, 2013
    Come on haters! Get it out of your system! Apple doesn't know how to run a major corporation. It's a wonder they're still in business! :p
  9. appleguy123 macrumors 604


    Apr 1, 2009
    15 minutes in the future
    Sapphire is less transparent than glass at the same thickness.
  10. akm3 macrumors 68020

    Nov 15, 2007
    That's a cute picture of the simian, but wouldn't you want a gigantic, tough Silverback 800lb gorilla for your picture of Gorilla Glass™ toughest baddest smartphone glass? Instead of cute / cuddly?
  11. thekeyring macrumors 68040

    Jan 5, 2012
    I dropped my phone about two hours ago and smashed screen.

    Anything that makes the screen stronger is good.
  12. that be me macrumors 6502

    Sep 12, 2013
    Honest question: has Apple actually stated that they use Corning Gorilla glass for their devices? I'm not talking about that one book where it supposedly credits a supplier in Texas. I mean referring to Corning by name.

    So the badass gorilla on the actual device isn't enough for you?
  13. scottsjack macrumors 68000

    Aug 25, 2010
    Nice to see another great product from an American company.
  14. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    It's a baby gorilla who just dropped his phone. But he needn't worry because of the sheer strength of Gorilla Glass.

    That cuddly gorilla won't be told off by his 800 pound dad because the phone isn't broken.
  15. _Refurbished_ macrumors 68000


    Mar 23, 2007
  16. HobeSoundDarryl, Feb 6, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2015

    HobeSoundDarryl macrumors 604


    Feb 8, 2004
    Hobe Sound, FL (20 miles north of Palm Beach)
    Does that phone look slightly bent after it's tumble?

    Or maybe a protruding lens in one corner is creating an illusion of bent?

    But the biggest problem by far is how THICK that phone looks. Must get thinner!!! Everyone I know is always griping about how all smart phones are just too thick. Maybe Apple could leave out the battery, guts and screen, so the next one can really be thinned out?

    All ;)
  17. AngerDanger, Feb 6, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2015

    AngerDanger macrumors 68040


    Dec 9, 2008
    Oh, yes, right. I'm going to pretend that I'm not thick and blame my misunderstanding on the phone, which appears to be floating due to odd editing. :eek:

    I do think they could make their point better without losing subtlety.

  18. lowercaseperson macrumors 6502

    Oct 5, 2006
    Agreed. I don't want to have to hold my breath as I turn over the iPhone I dropped 2 feet on to the cement, thinking my screen will be in 1,000 pieces and unusable. I'll take a few barely noticeable scratches over a shattered screen any day.
  19. rp2011 macrumors 65816


    Oct 12, 2010
    Well, they tried. It was a costly mistake, but in the end everybody wins. Corning is far better suited to be making glass than Apple. In the end it was probably a blessing it didn't work out.
  20. jayducharme macrumors 68040


    Jun 22, 2006
    The thick of it
    Phil Schiller called it "ion-strengthened glass". The only company currently producing such a product is Corning.

    Corning was probably going to lose Apple as a buyer if Apple had been able to produce sapphire. So that probably forced Corning's hand to make something similar and at a better price point. If Apple does go with them for the next iPhone, everybody wins.
  21. Frank in NL macrumors newbie

    Frank in NL

    Oct 23, 2010
    Actually it is strong... The glass is holding back a full sized adult gorilla with just a 5 inch screen.
  22. nouveau-apple macrumors 6502a

    Sep 29, 2014
    Lol it's such a funny picture. It's looking like it just dropped the phone.

    That's how I look when I drop my phone.

    Like, "what am I going to do???"
  23. lolkthxbai macrumors 65816


    May 7, 2011
    Glass vs Sapphire

    There was report not long ago about how it was now possible to create sapphire that would allow a lot more light through an not require a bright backlight and thereby reducing battery consumption and increasing battery life.
  24. SeaFox macrumors 68030


    Jul 22, 2003
    Somewhere Else
    To use a car analogy, maybe it's as strong as four 1988 Yugos.
  25. bkushner macrumors regular

    Jan 29, 2011
    they need this on the apple watch. Too late i bet?

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