PS: Note that some believe that's the reason the UK is so hell-bent on data collection. The theory is that the US have stronger legal protections against collecting data of their own citizens but less protections about accessing citizens' data collected by an allied country...
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Could Apple Pull iCloud Services From the UK Market?
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PS: Note that some believe that's the reason the UK is so hell-bent on data collection. The theory is that the US have stronger legal protections against collecting data of their own citizens but less protections about accessing citizens' data collected by an allied country...
Lots of people with 'nothing to hide' have been persecuted, arrested, deported or killed in the past all over the world, including the USA. Not to mention the bullseye you put on yourself as a country for State agent hackers. But hey, you do you 😉.
Whatever context you are trying to argue, this fits perfectly into why government WANT blanket surveillance power and demand everything that their citizens are doing, are being monitored 24/7, regardless of the reason, be it for terrorism or simply just want to manipulate people into voting for a party.
Worth adding that when the government actually do have the information and ability to react to these things, sometimes they don’t and people get killed.
Axel Rudakubana killed three children in cold blood. He was known to the authorities but due to procedural issues the my didn’t do anything about it.
To have this thrown on top is an insult to everyone.
The security services and government are criminally inept.
Axel Rudakubana killed three children in cold blood. He was known to the authorities but due to procedural issues the my didn’t do anything about it.
To have this thrown on top is an insult to everyone.
The security services and government are criminally inept.
They already do that. I worked in that sector. They don’t need anything past social media to mobilise the floating voters. Literally buy ads, use pollsters to see how effective they and measure sentiment. Then repeat.
Check who started YouGov PLC.
We are just constrained earlier than everyone else on cost. That might be a serious advantage when it comes to efficiency and product viability surprisingly.
Also not all tech innovation requires burning a small country’s worth of energy and pretending there’s a business model down the line …
Our government on the other hand are entirely incompetent so we just ignore their crap.
Relax, Apples privacy is E2EE. And if Apple stand by its privacy promises, they’ll not bend from it.
I am not for governments spying on you in either possible way. I was referring to threats like terrorism as an possible exception. I thought in democratic countries there should be an exception and not easily obtained. Only if there are real reasons for. But maybe that’s naive thinking of me and I only thought the spying on citizens happens in dictatorial countries.
That is sad, when I visited back in 2010 I really enjoyed being there. But I am American and it is easy to impress us with the shear amount of history. However, the people were really nice and it was a great trip.
I wouldn’t mind if Apple goes ahead and does this, but without a way to sync my data between devices myself (ie via a nas) this would be a HUGE loss of functionality to me.
This is another thing the EU should be going after, why can’t I have my devices sync over my own network? Because Apple wants to force you to pay for their service because it’s the only way to do it
I know you can back an iPhone up to iTunes, but this requires a Mac always running on the network, and you can’t back much up via this method, plus no syncing between devices this way
This is another thing the EU should be going after, why can’t I have my devices sync over my own network? Because Apple wants to force you to pay for their service because it’s the only way to do it
I know you can back an iPhone up to iTunes, but this requires a Mac always running on the network, and you can’t back much up via this method, plus no syncing between devices this way
I think we’ve seen that while, like any corporation, Apple does care about money, I don’t think it’s accurate to say Apple cares about ”only money, and literally nothing else.”
Things like all the accessibility work they do, insisting on carbon neutrality and using recycled materials likely cost more money than they bring in. To push the point further Apple could charge for iOS and MacOS updates, and, to your privacy point, could sell a lot more ads.
And remember Cook’s “If you want me to do things only for ROI reasons, you should get out of this stock.” comment at a shareholders meeting?
I agree this is a really good opportunity for Apple to let its actions back up its marketing though. Not that it will do anything unless a lot more customers do the same, I emailed Tim Cook to ask him to stand firm and either not comply or pull out of the U.K.
“You hope they do” guessing you’re not based in the UK therefore it won’t affect you, cheers buddy 😂
If it's end to end encrypted, only the user holds the key. So again, I don't ubderstand.
I’d rather Apple threaten to pull out (and if necessary, follow through on the threat) than betray all of its users’ privacy and security, including mine (reportedly the order requires Apple provide access to ALL Apple customers’ data, just not UK ones).
Not because I don’t like our U.K. friends, but because I suspect that would cause the government to back down. If you are in the U.K., I’d encourage your to write your MP and express your outrage so hopefully it doesn’t come to that.
And yes, I’m in the US but would feel the same way if I lived in the U.K.
To give up that control would give up a rather lucrative profit stream.Apple needs to make your computer the digital hub again for all of your Apple devices to sync with each other locally.
Corporations being above the government is a key part of fascism. In a free and open democracy, the government regulates companies. In a fascist state, corporations become an arm of the government. Those corporations own the government and the government owns the people. Those companies take their leadership from a single charismatic populist leader, or possibly a small group. The letter of the law becomes meaningless and only the will of those at the very top count.
You can do end to end encryption with a master key that unlocks everything. You can even break that key into two parts and you need both parts to unlock the data.
It’s more than just about a backdoor. UK citizens were complaining about iCloud price increases over the years and being locked into it as the only option for cloud service similar to being locked to the App Store.
And let’s not forget…
“In 2024, paid iCloud upgrades were the most popular service among Apple users, with 64% of users having that service”
…that’s an incredible revenue stream for Apple just to cut off their UK base.