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It will be the same situation as Cuba having nukes. I am sure you get the idea.

Or it would be the same situation as North Korea having nukes.

The similarities are much higher with North Korea actually. I mean for starters Taiwan can build their own nukes, they don’t need a foreign country to give it to them.
 
I mean for starters Taiwan can build their own nukes, they don’t need a foreign country to give it to them.
This is the main culprit here as advanced as Taiwan is it is still not that easy.

Iran is insanely advanced having hypersonic missiles but it is still not that easy for them to have nukes. I am pretty sure that even UK fully outsourced "their" nukes to the US.

So purely from a technical perspective any country that can actually have nukes(without any outsourcing) can be considered a world power. It is definitely a half-truth.
 
All Apple need to do is “withdraw” and “remove” operations from the UK market (so no longer covered by the current Investigatory Powers Act) and “sell off” all those prime retail sites to totally separate and not at all tax-avoiding legal entities like Select (Apple Premium Reseller) in Ireland that are in absolutely no way official Apple Stores except in name only.

As for online operations, I hear the Isle of Man and Jersey have a fair few registered addresses that are open for new business.
 
If someone other than the user has the key, then what's the point of end-to-end encryption?
Sometimes you might want any one of three people to access the data. Lets say your corporation has an ultra sensitive file that contains all of the passwords to all of the accounts. You might want any of the top executives to be able to access it, if something bad happens to the others. Sometimes you might want to split the key so it takes both people to access the data. Lets say a contract says, neither person can get to the bank account unless both agree. The original reason for this was key escrow. The NSA wanted to be able to access everyone's encrypted data. They created a cryptographic device that used a multi way split key. The consumer's key could always unlock the data. If the federal government wanted the data, there was a second key that was held in two parts. One part would be held by the Department of Justice. The other part I believe was held by the courts If the courts decided there was probable cause to access the data, they would give their key to the DoJ, and the data could be read. The NSA never bothered to tell anyone that they could break the key if they wanted.
 
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All Apple need to do is “withdraw” and “remove” operations from the UK market (so no longer covered by the current Investigatory Powers Act) and “sell off” all those prime retail sites to totally separate and not at all tax-avoiding legal entities like Select (Apple Premium Reseller) in Ireland that are in absolutely no way official Apple Stores except in name only.
My understanding is that Apple rents all or most of its 30 odd retail outlets in the UK. You may recall that in 2020 they requested that the landlords reduce their rents by up to 50%
 
Captain Kaos was right. ADP is gone, and:
For UK Apple users, some data can still be encrypted. iCloud Keychain and Health, iMessage, and FaceTime will remain end-to-end encrypted by default. But other iCloud services will not be encrypted, effective immediately, including iCloud Backup, iCloud Drive, Photos, Notes, Reminders, Safari Bookmarks, Siri Shortcuts, Voice memos, Wallet passes, and Freeform.
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So, 3 days on and I see MacRumours still hasn't mentioned this. Nothing on the front page about it. I even sent them a form to direct them to the ADP being turned off for UK users on Friday. I guess MR doesn't want to make apple look bad and draw attention to it.
 
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So, 3 days on and I see MacRumours still hasn't mentioned this. Nothing on the front page about it. I even sent them a form to direct them to the ADP being turned off for UK users on Friday. I guess MR doesn't want to make apple look bad and draw attention to it.
They wrote about it on Friday. There's huge post.

 
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Apple is in a tight position for sure.
Why would they be?

Tim Cook is going to comply with local laws, as long as there’s money to be made.

The only thing holding water less tightly are is their marketing privacy as a service.
 
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Because they can't make direct reference to it.
Do they need to?

Any online service promising secure encryption originating from - or provided in - the United States of America and the United Kingdom should reasonably be considered subvertible by secret orders from government agencies.
 
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Do they need to?

Any product, service or promise of secure encryption originating from - or offered in - in the United States of America or the United Kingdom should reasonably be considered subvertible by secret orders from government agencies.
So are you saying secret orders are good?
 
So are you saying secret orders are good?
No, quite the contrary.

But the reasonable assumption is that certain government agencies of these two can - and will - require service providers to provide access. And issue a gag order in the process. Apple certainly doesn't need to tell me (make direct reference) to assume that.

Also, while I'm not up to date on their laws, it's probably safe to include Australia among these countries as well.
 
No, quite the contrary.

But the reasonable assumption is that certain government agencies of these two can - and will - require service providers to provide access. And issue a gag order in the process.

Also, while I'm not up to date on their laws, it's probably safe to include Australia among these countries as well.
Alright. Understood.
 
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