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Hey guys ..

I had the chance to use the Canon EOS Rebel T1i today.. Used it at my family's baby shower and took some pretty good shots just messing around with the modes. My brother in law has one and I really like it.. It's comfortable in my hands pretty easy to start off with too. It's in my budget too. I think this one or the g12 is the one i want to get. Thanks for the great suggestions guys...

No, the t1i doesn't meet your video requirements. Find someone who has a broken Canon point and shoot, get it, use the canon loyalty program (20% of refurb prices) and get a t2i. The camera is light years ahead of the t1i. It has the same sensor as the 7D and can be Magic Lanterned into better video adjustability. If you are going with a Canon DSLR, going with anything under a t2i is a major mistake.
 
I'd go with the t2i as Policar was mentioning. It's not much more expensive than the t1i but it gives you full HD video. Also compared to the G12, getting into a DSLR system is great because you can start changing lenses and getting a kit set up and change parts as you go along.
 
Hey guys ..

I had the chance to use the Canon EOS Rebel T1i today.. Used it at my family's baby shower and took some pretty good shots just messing around with the modes. My brother in law has one and I really like it.. It's comfortable in my hands pretty easy to start off with too. It's in my budget too. I think this one or the g12 is the one i want to get. Thanks for the great suggestions guys...

Trust me, get the t2i instead. I haven't shopped around recently (since I already own one), but the t2i with a kit lens should be around $600 from B&H and if you do what WRP suggests (and you should, he seems to know what he's talking about) my guess is it's under $500 refurbished. A little more effort up front to stay within budget--but a lot less effort than realizing you bought the wrong camera and having to sell it and buy something else.

The t2i is a solid stills camera--better resolution AND better low light than the t1i. And a sensor designed for 300dpi output at 11x17, nice for landscape use. And the t1i's video mode is anemic--20fps or something, which is nonstandard and essentially useless. The t2i does 24fps and 30fps at 1080p and I've shot with it, the 7d, and the 5d II, and they're all in the same ballpark in terms of IQ. Really similar excepting the 5d's difference in depth of field. I've graded footage from all three into a movie shot on 35mm film--the film looks better, but with the right lenses and lighting--we're talking close enough to be transparent to the audience, which is amazing for the price. With the t1i you're dead in the water. The image will strobe too much for camera movement, but that doesn't even matter since working with and delivering 20fps footage is a nonstarter. The iPhone's video is far more useful.

And not to sound condescending, but the next thing to invest in after the camera is the two books I listed above. Because after reading them, you'll realize just how smart a purchase you made; without them, you'll be struggling against some really horrible automatic modes.
 
The OP said that he wanted to learn, not compete for your job. Just because he wants to shoot documentaries does not mean that they will be aired on PBS. He needs a camera to learn with and he asked for our advice for something beyond his iPhone and within his budget. Everyone needs a first camera and a little time to see where their interests will take them.

thanks man.. exactly
 
Learning stuff

Hey,

might be a bit off topic but if you are interested in learning video etc, check out these 'how to' clips. I apologize if you have seen them or have access to better but I found them useful. Lots of stuff on using Final Cut and iMovie. Others on the gear he uses, from DSLR Canon and various lens to a iPhone (think basic camera) and various other add ons.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MattsMacintosh/featured

Sometimes I think it's good to start with cheaper / less sophisticated gear because it forces you to think creatively and work around limits imposed by the gear. At least for me I have always found that a good way to learn. Of course as you get into it more you upgrade etc,. Read about Peter Jackson and how he started out as a kid making movies, he used what was around.

Cheers
Joel
 
It's 240 dpi in RAW.

Which is a fairly arbitrary number, especially given how few printers can actually print at 14x21 inches (especially relative to how many dSLR owners there are out there). Whereas 300dpi is the most common resolution for light jet printers and the de facto gold standard for print in general.

That said, it's all pretty arbitrary and 18mp is pushing the bounds of common sense for APS-C in the first place. But the extra resolution is convenient for someone interested in printing high quality landscapes and another reason the t2i is worth the extra money over the t1i for someone who describes his interests as landscape and video.
 
Even though we are in the photography section he specifially asked for something with good video capabilities. For $500 you aren't going to get anything decent with good audio to make documentaries.

If you want an answer OP, find a broken Canon point and shoot, use the Canon Loyalty program (20% off refurb) and get a t2i with a kit lens. It will be right around the ceiling of your budget but it will be the best bang for the buck and it CAN shoot pro quality stuff. Obviously over time you will becomes a lens whore and spend more money on better optics but you can't spend the money on anything better for less.

Your pain is felt. I would recommend the Canon G12 and to stay away from any Nikon point and shoot. I am a Nikon shooter but their P&S cameras are not that good. Sony makes a decent camera as well (P&S).
 
If you want an answer OP, find a broken Canon point and shoot, use the Canon Loyalty program (20% off refurb) and get a t2i with a kit lens. It will be right around the ceiling of your budget but it will be the best bang for the buck and it CAN shoot pro quality stuff. Obviously over time you will becomes a lens whore and spend more money on better optics but you can't spend the money on anything better for less.

was that so hard? Jesus, you're making other professionals seem like dicks. we all started somewhere, with little to no capital. Who are you to **** on his dreams?

Don't whine about how much you spent on school or gear, I can guarantee you I spent much more, and that doesn't stop me from helping someone out who is genuinely interested.
 
was that so hard? Jesus, you're making other professionals seem like dicks. We all started somewhere, with little to no capital. Who are you to **** on his dreams?

Don't whine about how much you spent on school or gear, i can guarantee you i spent much more, and that doesn't stop me from helping someone out who is genuinely interested.

best post ever........
 
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