Wish I could change the default search engine for searching the Internet using Siri, it’s always Google no matter what settings you have set.
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"Cutting off payments from Google almost certainly will impose substantial -- in some cases, crippling -- downstream harms to distribution partners, related markets, and consumers, which counsels against a broad payment ban," said the judge.
Firefox’s global market share is 2.26%.What about Firefox? I think Mozilla needs that Google search engine money more than Apple. It's not a good situation, but Google's money is probably very helpful for Firefox. I'm more worried about the Chromium monopoly than the Google search monopoly.
This data sharing part is huge if it takes force then it would go a long way to levelling the playing field in online search and shake up SEO with being less of a guessing game.Google will also need to share data with rival search engines. The DOJ had asked that Google be forced to provide data on how it decides what to surface based on a given search.
This particular monopoly hurts Google competitors and, as a result, it hurts the consumers. Businesses paying more for advertising add these extra expenses to their product prices. Consumer then pays more.Was the right decision.. Government was crazy trying to get everything they were asking for.. Government needs to stay out of tech when its not hurting the consumer and in this case it wasn't because people had an option to not use Google services. Hell on Android you can make it less Google then you could ever make an iPhone less Apple. should have tossed the whole case.
This is a good win for Google. Imagine they had to give up Chrome AND Android? Wow, that would have been tough.Besides being barred from entering into exclusive search engine distribution contracts, Google will also need to share data with rival search engines. The DOJ had asked that Google be forced to provide data on how it decides what to surface based on a given search.
Google was found to have a search monopoly back in August of 2024, and the court has been deciding what action to take to break up Google's monopoly since then. The DOJ was pushing for the divestiture of Chrome and the possible divestiture of Android.
Google is appealing the ruling, likely due to the data sharing component.
Was the right decision.. Government was crazy trying to get everything they were asking for.. Government needs to stay out of tech when its not hurting the consumer and in this case it wasn't because people had an option to not use Google services. Hell on Android you can make it less Google then you could ever make an iPhone less Apple. should have tossed the whole case.
And 2.26 percent of a billion devices is still about 26,000,000 users, which is nothing to sneeze at. I am willing to wager that the market is quite a lot larger than a billion.Firefox’s global market share is 2.26%.
Exactly. What is the judge on about? So the ruling is other search engines can compete with the same 20 billion to be the default search engine? What a dumb decision, that’s precisely the problem, nobody can compete with that.Good. We can already change our default search engine if we want. Apple isn’t forcing us to use Google. View attachment 2542986
So Google has to share the recipe for its secret sauce. It ain't fair to Google, but I can get behind that. I sometimes have to fall back on Google when doing a non-English search.The DOJ had asked that Google be forced to provide data on how it decides what to surface based on a given search.
Of course, as they should be. This preserves a large revenue and profit stream for Apple.And like clockwork Apple shares are up 4% on the news.
What’s illegal about them? No one forces you to use them and you have other choices.So... what exactly is the remedy for Google's illegal monopoly? Seems like they're set to get off with a slap on the wrist.
Apple could not offer alternative search engines. Just like someone who complained that Siri always defaults to google. Not anymore.cripping to shareholders maybe.
Non-exclusive in what sense? Isn't there already the option to change your default search engine? Or do they mean non-exclusive in the sense that other search engines are allowed to also pay 20B/year for consideration.
Agreed, and it makes me think Google is getting more than just default search from Apple they must be getting something with a perceived value greater than $20B per year.I can’t imagine how or why the deal still exists. Seems really dumb on Googles part. They have the best search engine by a mile. If they stopped paying tomorrow, what’s Apple going to do? They’re not going to update all their customers’ default search engine to something worse.
$216/yr for searching? Okay, but no. We use Brave and google, no bloat, no ads and we party like it's 2003.Surely unrelated: Gemini incoming as an option as soon as possible, probably.
edit: if you want a good search engine and have an adult job and are willing to use a very small amount of that money to improve your web search experience, try Kagi.
It's like Google was in 2003 with some additional useful features and no bloat or bs.
Use a different search engine and don’t install their browser Chrome. There are options.So... what exactly is the remedy for Google's illegal monopoly? Seems like they're set to get off with a slap on the wrist.
By the time the trial concluded, Google’s search share had been massively eroded by AI chatbots. The thing about monopolies is that while alternative vendors struggle to compete, the market responds to exploitation with obsolescence.So... what exactly is the remedy for Google's illegal monopoly? Seems like they're set to get off with a slap on the wrist.