COVID-19 Vaccine Experience

I was very hesitant to open this thread but I'm very impressed at the mature conversation that I read.

4sallypat said:
Other than touch/physical contact -
How does a vaccinated person able to spread the virus if they are now unable to become infected ?

I thought if you are not infected due to vaccine, your body is not multiplying viruses, not spewing out respiratory droplets nor contagious...
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yaxomoxay said:
Yeah I’d also love to see some sources for this.
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www.cdc.gov

Frequently Asked Questions about COVID-19 Vaccination

FAQs about COVID-19 vaccines, vaccine cost, availability, and types.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov

"Yes. Not enough information is currently available to say if or when CDC will stop recommending that people wear masks and avoid close contact with others to help prevent the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19.

Experts need to understand more about the protection that COVID-19 vaccines provide in real-world conditions before making that decision. Other factors, including how many people get vaccinated and how the virus is spreading in communities, will also affect this decision. We also don’t yet know whether getting a COVID-19 vaccine will prevent you from spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 to other people, even if you don’t get sick yourself. CDC will continue to update this page as we learn more."

Apple_Robert said:
Yikes. That doesn't sound good at all. I was all gung ho for getting vaccinated but, the more I read experiences like this the less enthused I am about me getting a vaccine.
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Td1970 said:
Oh lord. After hearing about the horror stories of being sick as a dog. I’m ready to cancel my appt for the shot.
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It's completely expected in some people. I'm not looking forward to it but I'll take a couple days of misery over potential months of misery any day of the week. My aunt and uncle got their second Pfizer shot three days ago and have mild symptoms.


www.wired.com

Vaccines Are Here. We Have to Talk About Side Effects

Disinformation could thwart distribution before government messages have a chance to push back. Debunking might turn out to be everyone’s job.
www.wired.com www.wired.com


yaxomoxay said:
Update. Little past 3pm here. Fell asleep on the sofa for about 1 hour. It keeps worsening. No desire to eat; I was able to eat some pasta without anything (not even oil, just the idea made me gag) earlier.

I feel like HP Lovecraft, who during his period at the hospital with terminal cancer wrote his death diary, listing each and every symptom to help scientists.
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Hope you're feeling better now!
 
Seems that those getting really bad side effects are likely to have already had Covid-19.
Had mine yesterday, no side effects really ... maybe minor soreness at the site but nothing else yet.
One important point that is being stressed is that you are unlikely to get any benefits for around 21 days and then only minimal until after the 2nd dose.
Advice seems to be act as though you haven't had it until more evidence is obtained and many reports suggesting that efficacy is generally not as good as originally stated by the producers, especially after one dose.

www.bbc.com

How effective is a single vaccine dose against Covid-19?

Pretend it didn't happen – expert advice on how to behave after receiving a single dose of any of the Covid-19 vaccines.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
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Td1970 said:
Oh lord. After hearing about the horror stories of being sick as a dog. I’m ready to cancel my appt for the shot.
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As one of the unlucky individuals that actually got sick as a dog, let me tell you: it's worth it. One bad day, and maybe one or two to be at 100% and your Covid worries are gone, possibly and hopefully forever. The knowledge that unless you're very very unlucky you won't catch it and you won't infect anyone is definitely worth some temporary pain.
 
I’m surprised i never got it. I’m work in healthcare. Had many patients coughing in my face before the mask mandates. Of course many of them were positive.
 
Td1970 said:
I work in the healthcare field. I understand how it works.

the flu shot kicks my butt every year. This will be far worse I’m afraid.

I see vaccinations are getting canceled. Kinda hope mine is. Lol
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I get the flu shot every year for the past 20 years and never had a reaction other than the soreness at site injection.

This vaccine (mRNA) is different than the old vaccine technology so it will be a new experience getting a second jab (next week)....

I'll report back on the side effects.

Yes, I'd rather feel crummy for a few days than come down with the virus that may be terminal.....
 
4sallypat said:
I get the flu shot every year for the past 20 years and never had a reaction other than the soreness at site injection.

This vaccine (mRNA) is different than the old vaccine technology so it will be a new experience getting a second jab (next week)....

I'll report back on the side effects.

Yes, I'd rather feel crummy for a few days than come down with the virus that may be terminal.....
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I’m not getting it for me. I’m not worried about me. I’m close to my mother and help her around her house a lot. I’m worried about her.
If it was just me. I’d pass

I get the flu shot every yet at too. It’s mandatory at work. I wouldn’t get it if I could pass. I always call out the next day.
 
yaxomoxay said:
Interesting! I am convinced that my entire family got Covid in January 2020, all the symptoms were there and flu tests were all negative.
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I’m pretty sure we all had it too. Right in the beginning. My kids and I were sick for a week. Coughed and coughed.
Now I’m even more worried.
 
Had Moderna, wife had Pfizer. I had a fairly sore arm for 3 days. Nothing else. Wife experienced soreness at the injection site until the next morning. Nothing else.

2nd doses next week.Will report then. I’m expecting to have a little more discomfort with the 2nd dose based on what I’ve read. Don’t expect anything different with my wife’s 2nd dose.
 
mrsmith1 said:
It’s been established after a single jab you have long lasting effective immunity after a few weeks.
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yes. about 60% effective, but still 100% effective in preventing severe illness in trials.

Got my first. Was kind of tired the second day but now I'm pretty much back to normal.
 
“Let’s spray the area down with antiviral cytokines, which also happen to be inflammatory.”

BINGO!!!! OK, now I have an explanation for a couple of things which I have noticed since I got the first dose of Moderna on January 21st..... The first couple of days, a sore arm at the injection site area, not unexpected. Felt fine otherwise. A day or so after that a period of runny nose and typical symptoms that I usually have when I'm having an allergic response in the Spring to pollen. Uh, OK.....that went away fairly quickly. Next up: a cold sore near my nose, when I definitely have not had a cold or any other illness for quite a long time, and the appearance of a second one a day or two later near my lower lip...... Ehhhhh..... I was beginning to wonder if this was all related somehow to that Moderna injection. Weird, but possible.....

Then a couple of days ago out of seemingly nowhere came the distinctly unpleasant surprise of rather intense lower back pain as well as pain radiating halfway down my legs, similar to sciatic pain which I experienced many years ago when having a disk herniation at L-5/S1. Aggggh...... NOT so cool. WTH?!!! In the many years since my surgery for that herniated disk I've experienced minor issues and even some numbness of a couple of toes on the left foot, the side which was affected, and that is not unusual. Apart from occasional twinges of pain reminiscent of that intense pain at the time of the herniation and an occasional nighttime leg cramp or two, nothing else particularly disturbing. Nothing like THIS!

THIS, though, was unusual and definitely disturbing!!! WHOA!!! Rapid onset is an index of suspicion from the get-go, though. I went to bed feeling perfectly fine. I hadn't done anything unusual, I hadn't fallen, I hadn't stressed myself doing strenuous exercises or moving furniture around, but, wow. This situation was sudden. Two mornings ago I arose from bed with this not-so-delightful surprise, barely could get out of bed, and finally yesterday resorted to taking a couple of Aleve when I was feeling extreme discomfort when sitting, when rising from a sitting position, when walking when lying down, when doing anything. Walking did seem to help but that seemed to happen only after a while. Bedtime the second night seemed a little easier, I was able to find a couple of comfortable positions and didn't have that intense burning pain which signaled that this was nerve-related. At first I thought, "OK, I've been sitting too much, I've been doing too much on the computer and because it's cold outside haven't been doing my usual walks around the neighborhood...."

Today things have been much more comfortable and though the day started out with pain and discomfort as time went on I noticed that the severity of discomfort had lessened and that my customary flexibility seemed to be gradually returning. In mid-afternoon I was able to do normal activities such as preparing loads of laundry for the machine and tossing them into first the washer and then the dryer without much of a problem.

Now I'm suspecting that in fact all of these odd things are indeed my body's response to my first dose of Moderna. The key word here for me is "inflammation", of course, when it comes to the issues with my lumbar spine. Exactly what I was feeling in a different way than ever before. Bingo! Makes perfect sense to me. Not fun. Now I'm wondering what the heck I'll be going through after I've had that second dose of Moderna later this month......
 
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Clix Pix said:
“Let’s spray the area down with antiviral cytokines, which also happen to be inflammatory.”

BINGO!!!! OK, now I have an explanation for a couple of things which I have noticed since I got the first dose of Moderna on January 21st..... The first couple of days, a sore arm at the injection site area, not unexpected. Felt fine otherwise. A day or so after that a period of runny nose and typical symptoms that I usually have when I'm having an allergic response in the Spring to pollen. Uh, OK.....that went away fairly quickly. Next up: a cold sore near my nose, when I definitely have not had a cold or any other illness for quite a long time, and the appearance of a second one a day or two later near my lower lip...... Ehhhhh..... I was beginning to wonder if this was all related somehow to that Moderna injection. Weird, but possible.....

Then a couple of days ago out of seemingly nowhere came the distinctly unpleasant surprise of rather intense lower back pain as well as pain radiating halfway down my legs, similar to sciatic pain which I experienced many years ago when having a disk herniation at L-5/S1. Aggggh...... NOT so cool. WTH?!!! In the many years since my surgery for that herniated disk I've experienced minor issues and even some numbness of a couple of toes on the left foot, the side which was affected, and that is not unusual. Apart from occasional twinges of pain reminiscent of that intense pain at the time of the herniation and an occasional nighttime leg cramp or two, nothing else particularly disturbing. Nothing like THIS!

THIS, though, was unusual and definitely disturbing!!! WHOA!!! Rapid onset is an index of suspicion from the get-go, though. I went to bed feeling perfectly fine. I hadn't done anything unusual, I hadn't fallen, I hadn't stressed myself doing strenuous exercises or moving furniture around, but, wow. This situation was sudden. Two mornings ago I arose from bed with this not-so-delightful surprise, barely could get out of bed, and finally yesterday resorted to taking a couple of Aleve when I was feeling extreme discomfort when sitting, when rising from a sitting position, when walking when lying down, when doing anything. Walking did seem to help but that seemed to happen only after a while. Bedtime the second night seemed a little easier, I was able to find a couple of comfortable positions and didn't have that intense burning pain which signaled that this was nerve-related. At first I thought, "OK, I've been sitting too much, I've been doing too much on the computer and because it's cold outside haven't been doing my usual walks around the neighborhood...."

Today things have been much more comfortable and though the day started out with pain and discomfort as time went on I noticed that the severity of discomfort had lessened and that my customary flexibility seemed to be gradually returning. In mid-afternoon I was able to do normal activities such as preparing loads of laundry for the machine and tossing them into first the washer and then the dryer without much of a problem.

Now I'm suspecting that in fact all of these odd things are indeed my body's response to my first dose of Moderna. The key word here for me is "inflammation", of course, when it comes to the issues with my lumbar spine. Exactly what I was feeling in a different way than ever before. Bingo! Makes perfect sense to me. Not fun. Now I'm wondering what the heck I'll be going through after I've had that second dose of Moderna later this month......
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Sounds like the second dose is gonna be hard on you. Depending on how the first goes. I may skip my 2nd. I’m happy with 80% protection.

I’m really hoping that this doesn’t become mandatory for me at work. The flu shot is and I hate it but have no choice at all

I have been directly exposed at least 10 times since this started. Patients were coughing in our faces last year before the mask protocol took over. COVID Positive patients. And tested every week at work. Never positive. Maybe I’m immune
 
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Td1970 said:
Sounds like the second dose is gonna be hard on you. Depending on how the first goes. I may skip my 2nd. I’m happy with 80% protection.

I’m really hoping that this doesn’t become mandatory for me at work. The flu shot is and I hate it but have no choice at all

I have been directly exposed at least 10 times since this started. Patients were coughing in our faces last year before the mask protocol took over. COVID Positive patients. And tested every week at work. Never positive. Maybe I’m immune
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It's closer to 50% protection. Get the second dose. My wife had no side effects. Everyone I have talked to who had side effects took tylenol and were fine
 
Td1970 said:
Actually it’s 80-90% effective.

https://amp.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/12/18/coronavirus-vaccine-single-dose-debate
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In *some* people.

"Some people are going to mount more robust immune responses to both rounds of the Covid-19 vaccination than others. That's one of the key reasons experts are insisting everyone receive the second shot of the vaccine within a key time frame. In looking at the Phase 1, Phase 2 data, what I saw with a single dose is some people had high levels of virus-neutralizing antibody, others were nonresponders," said vaccine scientist Dr. Peter Hotez, professor and dean at the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, in a prior interview.
"So the major reason for the second dose is to get everybody to respond. If you just get a single dose, you don't really know where you stand," Hotez said."

www.cnn.com

I've had my Covid-19 vaccine -- now what can I safely do?

If you're one of the lucky ones to get your Covid-19 vaccine shots, what's next? When can you take off your mask, eat inside a restaurant, travel, go to sporting events and concerts and visit friends and family? Experts give their advice.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
 
Td1970 said:
Sounds like the second dose is gonna be hard on you. Depending on how the first goes. I may skip my 2nd. I’m happy with 80% protection.
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Why would you skip on something so important? To avoid one or two bad days? It doesn't make any sense. Plus you'd be messing up with the reserved 2nd doses; every dose is counted, has limited shelf life, and needs to get out, especially the 2nd dose.
 
Td1970 said:
I’m not worried about me. If it was just me I wouldn’t get it. It’s my mom I worry about. I’m her go to person and want her to be safe.
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Same. My mother is 80 and I see her 6 days a week. I almost never get sick. I don't want to take a chance that I will catch something and give it to her.

My 2 kids tested positive. Mild symptoms.
Wife sick as a dog. Tested negative.
I have tested negative 3 times so far. 3 times negative antibodies as they test for that when I give blood.
 
kurtatx said:
Some people aren't rational.
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Maybe. But people need to understand that the procurement and distribution of the doses is very complex - and no dose can be wasted. So, if you apply for the vaccine: go get it. If you get the first shot, go get the second shot. It's very important not to mess with all the logistics and we should never assume that the dose assigned to us will be or can be used for someone else.
 
yaxomoxay said:
Why would you skip on something so important? To avoid one or two bad days? It doesn't make any sense. Plus you'd be messing up with the reserved 2nd doses; every dose is counted, has limited shelf life, and needs to get out, especially the 2nd dose.
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I definitely am planning to have that second dose, but at the time of my appointment I will discuss with the nurse the various responses/reactions I have experienced following the first dose. My back feels better today and I do believe it is simply related to the inflammatory process going on while the vaccine has been taking effect. Probably right about the time it feels completely back to normal is when it'll be time for the second dose -- around the 18th of February -- and wham!!! I'll probably go through this all over again, perhaps somewhat worse. I'll survive. Still preferable to coming down with COVID-19!
 
Clix Pix said:
I definitely am planning to have that second dose, but at the time of my appointment I will discuss with the nurse the various responses/reactions I have experienced following the first dose. My back feels better today and I do believe it is simply related to the inflammatory process going on while the vaccine has been taking effect. Probably right about the time it feels completely back to normal is when it'll be time for the second dose -- around the 18th of February -- and wham!!! I'll probably go through this all over again, perhaps somewhat worse. I'll survive. Still preferable to coming down with COVID-19!
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Good luck! Honestly, it's possible that since you already suffered your portion of pain you might be now immune to side effects. However, talking to the nurse is a very good choice.
 
That's a possibility, that the second dose won't hit me as hard as the first one did. Weird, though, if that happens! I expected the sore arm thing, that was something everyone talked about, and that cleared up within a couple of days. When I started having a runny, drippy nose on the evening of the third or fourth day post-dose at first I thought, "oh, shoot, I've caught a cold!" but it felt more like the kind of experience I have when my allergies kick up, and sure enough, one Zyrtec took care of it. Then the two cold sores arrived -- ugh! SO unattractive! That is one nice thing about the mask, though -- covers them up when I'm out and about! LOL! The back thing, though, really caught me by surprise. If I were not already noticing improvement now, though, I would be in touch with the doctor, but I don't think it is necessary, as this is something which will just have to settle down on its own over time.
 
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