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MP 7,1 CPU upgrade in 2019 Mac Pro
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Korican100
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can anyone tell me if this is good? saw it on ebay for 1299. seems like they are getting cheaper
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Auggie
macrumors 6502
It's a Quality Sample (QS) version, pre-production.
There are a ton of them on the secondary market, hundreds of dollars cheaper than a production version. The question on many of our minds is, will this be stable enough or cause issues with the 7,1...?
There are a ton of them on the secondary market, hundreds of dollars cheaper than a production version. The question on many of our minds is, will this be stable enough or cause issues with the 7,1...?
MacFlaX
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If not yet seen: @RetroDan posted the Mac Pro 7.1 Service Manual in parallel thread. This includes CPU exchange instructions https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2019-mac-pro-service-technician-manual.2329772/
I swapped my stock 12 core for a used retail 24 core W-3265M that i bought on eBay for around 1000 euros. It took three attempts to get it right because i did have the amber light flashing on boot. Thanks to this topic and the service manual i learned a lot. So thank you to everyone contributing here since there's no step by step Youtube tutorial on this. What worked for me is cleaning the new CPU's contacts with alcohol and very carefully tightening the two bolts, counting the rotations to get it seated properly. This is critical. After that it was plug and play. I'm on Monterey 12.2.1 and now enjoying a significant speed bump in Final Cut Pro.
Congratulations it makes a significant difference to performance. Confirming I also successfully replaced my stock 8 core with a 28 core CPU. I wish I had the manual at the time! Thankfully it took 2 attempts, the issue being the tightening of the screws. It’s pretty easy to do though and well worth it if you want a rocket ship!
Another successful swap:
from 8-core Intel Xeon W-3223 (1074/8673 in Geekbench 5)
to 24-core Intel Xeon W-3265M (1185/18737 in Geekbench 5)
It's a fairly simple CPU upgrade; similar to the MacPro5,1 and WAY easier than on a MacPro6,1.
from 8-core Intel Xeon W-3223 (1074/8673 in Geekbench 5)
to 24-core Intel Xeon W-3265M (1185/18737 in Geekbench 5)
It's a fairly simple CPU upgrade; similar to the MacPro5,1 and WAY easier than on a MacPro6,1.
What are the odds that the Xeon W-3300 will work in the MacPro7,1? It's supposed to be in the new MacPro.
tsialex
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It's a different socket, LGA4189, while MacPro7,1 have LGA3647. Zero chances.
That’s a rumor from almost a year ago for being in next Mac Pro. Wouldn’t count on it.
AppleTomsk
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The update for 4189 will come for sure… will be just a silent Update… the 7.1 will not die as fast as people think… most of the professionals need PCIe Slots which the AS MacPro won’t have…
After almost a year of doing the 28 Core W3275m upgrade to 2 Mac Pros, both have worked flawlessly and have had no issues or gremlins at all - which is a good thing since it was so much cheaper than getting that option directly from Apple.
That's one of the great things about the Mac Pro - upgradability. Hopefully the AS version maintains some aspects of that...
That's one of the great things about the Mac Pro - upgradability. Hopefully the AS version maintains some aspects of that...
Ashok.Vardhan
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I completely agree, said the same thing in a different thread elsewhere. People gushing over the specs of the new MacStudio really underestimate the expandability of PCI-e slots the 7,1 and even the 5,1 have, especially when it comes to HBA cards (ATTO, High-Point, Areca) to expand storage solutions based off large multiple RAID arrays of HDD or SSDs. Thunderbolt 3/4 might boast high speeds, but reliability and sustained read/writes perhaps not as much.
I am still using the MacPro 5,1 primarily because of how easy it is to expand storage solutions through internal PCI-e slots based HBAs.
Agreed memory/processor bus speeds are frozen for many years, however, once invested in a lot of internal and external solutions, professional small/mid studio users will not reinvest for probably another 5-8 years depending on their profit margins and investments.
Hi rondocap!
Im considering to upgrade my MacPro from 16 cores to the 24 or the 28 cores, you can get those processors around 1000$ these days.
What would you say?
Im working mainly on after effects, and very seldom on Cinema4d.
After effects support multiple cores for rendering, but nut sure if the lower speed clock will make it react slower.
The other option is to get an M1 Ultra but that's 4x the price of the upgrade...
Any suggestions?
Thanks
chfilm
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I'm in the same boat, so curious about answers. I tested the mac studio m1 ultra vs my 16 core and it BLEW it out of the water in after effects. A comp that took 5 minutes on my mac pro rendered in 3 minutes on the mac studio. I doubt that a 28 core could beat that. The m1 version of after effects is just so well optimized.. on the other hand..it might just be on par for final render.
cobra521
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Tala,
Be aware: the $1000US CPUs seem to all be "QS" models. The tray models still seem to be $@2300US or so. There is a reason. If you search this site you'll find that the QS versions put into the 7,1 Mac Pro sometime have problems.
Just so you have some idea of what the downside might be,
Tom
Oh man, thanks for writing!
Did you have any bugs using the Ultra in after effects?
Any plugins that doesn't work?
I bought the MacPro for its stability and to be able to upgrade along the way.
Now im not sure, maybe it would be better to get a Mac studio or wait to the new MacPro...
I was thinking if I upgrade to the 28 cores maybe it could give me another year or two with the MacPro, and than buy the 2nd generation Mac Studio...
I really like the ease of having more storage when I need it, but its hard to resist the speed of the M1 processors.
As of AE 2022, Adobe now supports multi-frame rendering which supposedly should effectively utilize multi-core CPUs. As for the number of cores it can "effectively" use with this latest version, I have yet to find a test.
In any case, I have no issues with Adobe CC apps including Premiere Pro and AE. I use 4K timeline / Comp settings. Of course, that depends on the number of layers and effects which will vary per user workflow. If you find your setup is choking, then a multi-core CPU may help.
Personally, I would rather upgrade on RAM and GPU at this point where the 7,1 has aged. This is the reason why I chose a 16-core which is right in the middle of speed and cores as the CPU is the only thing I don't plan on tinkering with.
I would suggest just waiting for the new Mac Pro or getting a Mac Studio.
In any case, I have no issues with Adobe CC apps including Premiere Pro and AE. I use 4K timeline / Comp settings. Of course, that depends on the number of layers and effects which will vary per user workflow. If you find your setup is choking, then a multi-core CPU may help.
Personally, I would rather upgrade on RAM and GPU at this point where the 7,1 has aged. This is the reason why I chose a 16-core which is right in the middle of speed and cores as the CPU is the only thing I don't plan on tinkering with.
I would suggest just waiting for the new Mac Pro or getting a Mac Studio.
blackquartz
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Ive been debating over the last months if should go for a QS 28 or a retail 24 , im not sure what the downsides of the QS could be, been asking around and most people seem happy with their cheap qs xeon processor. Could you please elaborate your opinion, I would really appreciate that.
startergo
macrumors 603
CPUs: OEM vs Retail vs Engineering Samples (ES)
The obvious difference between an OEM CPU and a retail one are no manual, no heatsink/fan, and a reduced warranty for an OEM CPU compared to a retail one. In my case, I don't care about the manual, I use a third party heatsink/fan, and am not worried about the warranty since the CPU will likely...
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I'm going with the 3.2ghz 16 core but I'd looked at some of those QS CPUs, I will stay clear of them after seeing the above.