For me, the proper iPadOS is MacOS or an option to use it.What is ”proper” iPadOS? I’m guessing if you asked MR members you’d get a lot of different answers.
For me, the proper iPadOS is MacOS or an option to use it.What is ”proper” iPadOS? I’m guessing if you asked MR members you’d get a lot of different answers.
isn't effective in giving users the amount of influence and interaction they desire.
A little annoyance a lot of people forget about SL is that it completely cut out PPC and that the Mac market was TINY compared to it is now. I'm not sure everyone would be ready to completely cut out Intel.At their large scale, I think it’s time Apple considers non-annual releases. Too much rushing features which never launch at launch anyway.
We need a Snow Leopard era again.
He responded to one person, who then chose to make that correspondence public.At least he publicly admitted it, hopefully it means they will take steps to address it.
That is a completely WRONG suggestion. Talk to any Apple SE, they want details. When I file feedback, I give a complete description of the issue, how to reproduce, what the impact to my environment is going to be, and (since I am a Mac Admin), whether this issue will prevent me adopting the upgrade in my organization.Long-winded explanations are probably skimmed over, if not overlooked, and your "legitimate report" is whittled down to what it should be...short and concise.
Short and concise does not mean it lacks details or a complete description.That is a completely WRONG suggestion. Talk to any Apple SE, they want details. When I file feedback, I give a complete description of the issue, how to reproduce, what the impact to my environment is going to be, and (since I am a Mac Admin), whether this issue will prevent me adopting the upgrade in my organization.
A simple "it doesn't work" is not a good response.
Is it?Imagine the pain of users having easy access to turn their daily driver devices into day 1 beta testers. Devices would be constantly unstable and that would be socialized into Apple products are buggy and low quality. The current method is a safer way to protect the brand and users from themselves.
You "know a lot of people" equals about 5. We are talking about millions. Also, not a lot of people have Apple TV to begin with and average users aren't searching for the "Turn on Beta Updates" options. They simply don't care like you do.Is it?
I actually know a lot of people, people who knew absolutely nothing about how beta testing works, who downloaded profiles from shady websites to get lock screen and home screen widgets early, I don’t think that’s any safer.
Also, as I pointed out, it’s already this way on tvOS.
Are you suggesting that customers of tvOS are just naturally better beta testers?
And is that one person in the public?He responded to one person, who then chose to make that correspondence public.
This is the exact reason why I love Craig. He keeps everything real. There is no sugar coating. He is not afraid to admit the faults/flaws. He doesn’t need a script. He keeps everything authentic and as is. Good or bad.The first step is to admit you have a problem.
At least he publicly admitted it, hopefully it means they will take steps to address it.
Seems to me Apple usually engage with something like this when they have/are soon to have something to bring to the table.
Yea what's with reporting an issue that feedback states 65M other users reported but nothing ever gets fixed?I would be happy if Apple just fixed the gigantic bugs users reported. But no...
This is exactly what I was going to post. Why do you have to go through the Spanish Inquisition for an annoyance bug. Shouldn't it know some of the answers based on logs or such??View attachment 2113447 Of course Feedback is a crap.
Several times I faced a situation that FW / SW I used and wanted to post a feedback / bug report was not implemented in drop-down menu…
Like with AirPods last FW where I had to manually type latest version… if this comes to FO there is unnecessary waste of time…
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If I were you I would copy Craig and email him personally. See what type of response you get. 10+ years is a long time. Maybe he will respond to you personally.I submitted a bug recently for iOS 16.2 and noticed I still had unanswered feedback dating back to 2011 lol. If anything, just select all and mark them closed. Guess I won't bother submitting feedback if they admit that they all go unanswered. What's the point of the feedback app then? 🤔
It takes balls to admit this after so many years of worthless public beta program.
Yea some feedback on the feedback would be nice, and specific to what you reported, not some form letter garbageWhich may obviously be true, but how’s one to know when acknowledgment of reports isn’t at a level even Craig isn’t satisfied with?
He'd probably reply he agrees but has no power over devs.If I were you I would copy Craig and email him personally. See what type of response you get. 10+ years is a long time. Maybe he will respond to you personally.
Yea even in beta they never get a broad enough audience. Live is out for like 4s, and someone finds a way to break or exploit somethingPEBKAC problem, also known as a 1D10T error.
No you don't get to say "everything is wrong and this is correct" in beta testing. That is alpha testing, not beta.
We had this same issue in the World of Warcraft alpha vs beta. Best friends and streamers come in for alpha testing and don't want a dang thing changed because they're afraid of losing their "alpha tester" status. Beta is the bug fixers, where tons of users devour the content and look for bugs/issues.
The problem lies with the alpha testers, just like with Warcraft. You need new alpha testers and not your best friends.
That's not what was said or even alluded to at all. He stated they're aware it's not the way users would prefer. It wasn't an interview or exchange with anyone notable, it was a reader. He didn't want to offend them by saying this is by design. Let them worry about bugs, as opposed to adding features that .0001% of the users would use, they already have trouble with that.we could see an updated approach for next year's batch of new updates, which will include iOS 17 and macOS 14.
He most likely will reply, keeping the email short and precise, normally does the trick with me, as evident in this post, and the copy and paste saga. Both were responses I received, just by being genuine and not asking stupid s**tHe'd probably reply he agrees but has no power over devs.