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Craigslist buy gone bad (gpu panic)

Look at some of the threads for the 2011 15" MBPs and you'll see that some people had the board replaced two or more times.

I assumed that the 2012 was vintage since it was introduced 6 years ago. Maybe Apple will replace the board with an updated revision that doesn't suffer the same failure? I'm really not sure if they will.
 
Good money after bad, seek out a Mac specialist and see what they say. See if they can check for intermittent fault on GMUX. Bottom case get one of eBay, just confirm the part number etc.

It's a 6 year old notebook that someone's clearly meddled with, spending close to another $600, just No. Far better to sell off for parts and put the money towards a Mac that has at least some coverage and has not been tampered with.

Bottom plate may have been replaced due to damaged or the guy may make $$$ by refurbishing / repairing dead Mac's as it's clearly lucrative, with the base simply being off one of the others in the "pile"...

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Yeah buying anything off Craigslist that requires electricity is a bad idea. It’s generally safe to assume most are scammers - especially when it comes to phones and computers.

Apple won’t replace the board with another broken one. It’ll work for some until the issue surfaces again later. Anyways 15 inch MacBooks are a big problem. The pre 2009 overheated on the gpu. The 2010 had the capacitor issue and crashed. 2011 has the Radeon gate. 2012 was underpowered and has that issue.

Moral of the story.. Apple doesn’t know how to make a proper MacBook with a dGPU.
 
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My son met a guy off Craigslist to sell his iPhone 6 plus. Met the guy in a public place. He looked at it for a minute and took off running with the phone. Was never recovered. The phone number the guy was calling from was an internet based number through a service. Not traceable. Be careful people.
 
saudor said:
Yeah buying anything off Craigslist that requires electricity is a bad idea. It’s generally safe to assume most are scammers - especially when it comes to phones and computers.

Apple won’t replace the board with another broken one. It’ll work for some until the issue surfaces again later. Anyways 15 inch MacBooks are a big problem. The pre 2009 overheated on the gpu. The 2010 had the capacitor issue and crashed. 2011 has the Radeon gate. 2012 was underpowered and has that issue.

Moral of the story.. Apple doesn’t know how to make a proper MacBook with a dGPU.
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Very much agree the 15" MBP has been problematic over the years. One really needs to really do their "homework" on the background of the particular model and preferably the usage of the specific notebook.

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bopajuice said:
My son met a guy off Craigslist to sell his iPhone 6 plus. Met the guy in a public place. He looked at it for a minute and took off running with the phone. Was never recovered. The phone number the guy was calling from was an internet based number through a service. Not traceable. Be careful people.
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future-trunks said:
sounds like it could be a loose solder joint. took it to apple and the ran it through the diagnostic test and it came up fine, the guy was puzzled why the MacBook wouldn't turn on as well. I demonstrated the trick to power it up with the lid almost fully shut and it booted up, a couple of attempts of course. video card was fine so he suspected it could be a logic board maybe but he really didn't know since the test that were ran all came back fine. it has had a upgraded ssd/flash memory, so its been modified. it also has a 2014 bottom cover plate on so the computer rocks backs and fourth, it dosent lay completely flat, this was the first thing he noticed. it dosent fit because theres four magnets that snap into place on the 2014 model and you can see them pertuding out from the case, he also said there located directly on the battery and hd. all in all they said for 570.00 they will rebuild and replace anything that is damaged, I don't know if thats a regular rate for fixing the Mac book or if thats under a warranty. I fort got to mention the depot repair. honestly if the craigslist seller gives me back half of my cash or at least pays for half of what it cost for apple to rebuild it, I would be happy. what are your guys thoughts?
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There is no bright sight.

Sell the laptop "as-is".
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saudor said:
Yeah buying anything off Craigslist that requires electricity is a bad idea. It’s generally safe to assume most are scammers - especially when it comes to phones and computers.
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That's not true at all.

You can get good deals if you know what you are looking for.
 
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O man, your kidding right. I cant win in this situation huh, ive been trying to look at the bright side but it seems there is none besides "learning from my 800 dollar mistake". And why would apple replace it with another faulty logic board. I dont even know if thats the problem, could be loose solder joints or the machine could have been dropped and internals were banged loose. I dont know why the bottom plate would be replace unless it wad heavily damaged from a drop or bend. The battery has also been pryed up aswell
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This is a different issue than the 2011 with AMD faulty GPUs. In that case it was a problem with the construction of the GPU chip itself. Temporary repairs by reflowing the solder were just temporary because it didn’t get rid of the underlying issue in the IC packaging. So even if apple replaced the logic board it had the bad chip on it that was susceptible to failure.

In this case the issue is with the solder joints on the GMUX device that I mentioned. Once properly soldered, preferably with leaded solder, the issue will not return. So you are actually better off having the logic board repaired than getting new one from apple that has the same bad solder issue. It is about a 1 hour fix including disassembly and reassembly. You just need to find someone reputable that knows their way around. I would do it for you but I am in Canada so shipping back and forth can be problematic.
 
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bopajuice said:
My son met a guy off Craigslist to sell his iPhone 6 plus. Met the guy in a public place. He looked at it for a minute and took off running with the phone. Was never recovered. The phone number the guy was calling from was an internet based number through a service. Not traceable. Be careful people.
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Before selling an iPhone, I have it locked to my iCloud account until the person pays, then I unlock it.

Since the phone was stolen, I would have had it blacklisted ASAP.
 
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future-trunks said:
the seller said it didn't have issues, and is a tech. but yes, when he had to hard reset I should of known not to buy it. I also didn't know about the recall on the video card, he did mention the gpu overheating issues of the older MacBooks. but I bought it because I thought I was getting a good Mac book for a reasonable price. so yeah, I messed up and made a mistake, now I'm just trying to find out whats wrong with it because he states that it preformed well for the time he has had it. wich I find hard to believe when all of these problems are occurring on this machine
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You were better off buying from Bestbuy, Apple or etc used. Not worth the risk for stuff over $500 TBH
 
OP wrote:
"Not yet, I told him the problems I was having with the mac book, and declared i want the MacBook fixed or refunded my money. He said the mac book had no issues when he sold it too me, he also couldent awnser why he had to hard reset it."

I saw this thread yesterday and refrained from commenting.
But.. I'll put my two cents in and then be done with it.

You admitted that you saw "the black screen" BEFORE you actually bought it.
Your words:
"I purchased a 2012 retina MacBook off craigslist, while I was purchasing I went to reset it and it hung up on the black screen, he hard reset it after about 30 secs and said thats what you have to do sometimes, for some reason I still bought the damn MacBook lol"

And then... in spite of the warning signs -- you paid for it anyway and took possession.

This is a "Craigslist purchase".
Unless the seller specifically offered you some kind of warranty, there is none.

It's yours now.
Any further responsibility and expenditure to fix it... falls on you, not upon the seller.

If you can coax the guy into refunding the money and taking it back, more power to you.
But he has no legal responsibility to do so.

You saw BEFORE you put your money down that the device had problems, and you bought it anyway. I would reckon that in small claims court, this would demonstrate that you accepted the defects "as is", and have no legal right to void the transaction now.

You bought a MacBook that clearly had problems.
Obviously, that's why the guy was trying to sell it.

Go forth from this day and learn from your experience, a sadder but wiser buyer.
 
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saudor said:
Yeah buying anything off Craigslist that requires electricity is a bad idea. It’s generally safe to assume most are scammers - especially when it comes to phones and computers.

Apple won’t replace the board with another broken one. It’ll work for some until the issue surfaces again later. Anyways 15 inch MacBooks are a big problem. The pre 2009 overheated on the gpu. The 2010 had the capacitor issue and crashed. 2011 has the Radeon gate. 2012 was underpowered and has that issue.

Moral of the story.. Apple doesn’t know how to make a proper MacBook with a dGPU.
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yea, never again. I bought my last pc off craigslist, custom built, but the guy invited me to his home so theres a huge difference in wether or not your gunna get screwed over.
Dadioh said:
This is a different issue than the 2011 with AMD faulty GPUs. In that case it was a problem with the construction of the GPU chip itself. Temporary repairs by reflowing the solder were just temporary because it didn’t get rid of the underlying issue in the IC packaging. So even if apple replaced the logic board it had the bad chip on it that was susceptible to failure.

In this case the issue is with the solder joints on the GMUX device that I mentioned. Once properly soldered, preferably with leaded solder, the issue will not return. So you are actually better off having the logic board repaired than getting new one from apple that has the same bad solder issue. It is about a 1 hour fix including disassembly and reassembly. You just need to find someone reputable that knows their way around. I would do it for you but I am in Canada so shipping back and forth can be problematic.
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Why is shipping a pain? lol too bad you weren't closer!if shippi
Dadioh said:
This is a different issue than the 2011 with AMD faulty GPUs. In that case it was a problem with the construction of the GPU chip itself. Temporary repairs by reflowing the solder were just temporary because it didn’t get rid of the underlying issue in the IC packaging. So even if apple replaced the logic board it had the bad chip on it that was susceptible to failure.

In this case the issue is with the solder joints on the GMUX device that I mentioned. Once properly soldered, preferably with leaded solder, the issue will not return. So you are actually better off having the logic board repaired than getting new one from apple that has the same bad solder issue. It is about a 1 hour fix including disassembly and reassembly. You just need to find someone reputable that knows their way around. I would do it for you but I am in Canada so shipping back and forth can be problematic.
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Fishrrman said:
OP wrote:
"Not yet, I told him the problems I was having with the mac book, and declared i want the MacBook fixed or refunded my money. He said the mac book had no issues when he sold it too me, he also couldent awnser why he had to hard reset it."

I saw this thread yesterday and refrained from commenting.
But.. I'll put my two cents in and then be done with it.

You admitted that you saw "the black screen" BEFORE you actually bought it.
Your words:
"I purchased a 2012 retina MacBook off craigslist, while I was purchasing I went to reset it and it hung up on the black screen, he hard reset it after about 30 secs and said thats what you have to do sometimes, for some reason I still bought the damn MacBook lol"

And then... in spite of the warning signs -- you paid for it anyway and took possession.

This is a "Craigslist purchase".
Unless the seller specifically offered you some kind of warranty, there is none.

It's yours now.
Any further responsibility and expenditure to fix it... falls on you, not upon the seller.

If you can coax the guy into refunding the money and taking it back, more power to you.
But he has no legal responsibility to do so.

You saw BEFORE you put your money down that the device had problems, and you bought it anyway. I would reckon that in small claims court, this would demonstrate that you accepted the defects "as is", and have no legal right to void the transaction now.

You bought a MacBook that clearly had problems.
Obviously, that's why the guy was trying to sell it.

Go forth from this day and learn from your experience, a sadder but wiser buyer.
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whats the problem with shipping? lost products and such?



And yeah, thanks for your 2 cents man, I'm still hoping the guy gets back to me this weekend and knows how to solder so he can solder this chip . and I don't have time for small claims, I just wish people were more straight up, now I've wasted countless hours on this Mac book, and all the effort at my job to make that money. wiser, most deff.
 
Where would I find the schematics for the logic circuit board for my computer? I have a friend who might be able to solder the cup if it is not in a solder bath
 
Well, ive already found a list sooo I guess i just need to open the machine and see what board number it is to match my model. Someone posted a link to the chip and schmematics i needed earlier in this thread but I cant find it anymore. Any one with some info pleas Dm me. Thanks.
 
future-trunks said:
O man, your kidding right. I cant win in this situation huh, ive been trying to look at the bright side but it seems there is none besides "learning from my 800 dollar mistake". And why would apple replace it with another faulty logic board. I dont even know if thats the problem, could be loose solder joints or the machine could have been dropped and internals were banged loose. I dont know why the bottom plate would be replace unless it wad heavily damaged from a drop or bend. The battery has also been pryed up aswell
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Reading your store reminds me of my $650 mistake when I bought a 2014 13" MacBook Pro that had I/O board issues. The lady said she worked for Apple and she was due for her 3 year upgrade discount. I should've known when the screen didn't come one for a whole minute that there was an issue.

This (and one other bad craigslist buy) make me avoid all craigslist sales. In the end I sold the lemon, and bought a refurbished 2017 MacBook Pro from the Apple store. And I love it to pieces with no hardware issues (knock on wood). Remember too you can always use the 12-18 month interest free financing through Barclaycard that is offered on the Apple website. Its not the best credit card, but it can get you in the door if you want to buy a better machine from the apple store.
 
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