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crashed, again, second time..

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temen

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Apr 15, 2011
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Hi,

Today, for the second time in last 2 months my osx crashed.
I could move my mouse pointer, but that's all - cmd+alt(+shift)+esc sequence did not work, I couldn't click on anything.. Waited 2-3 minutes (at the first time this situation occured I waited longer) and rebooted by clicking and holding power button.
The main reason I bought again macbook is the OS X.
I like this system, his stability and usability.
What can I do to debug it, find out why it crashes or how can I get it running without restarting?

(I will skip the part where after rebooting I had to wait 2-3 minutes before all applications will start again.. damn you lion.)

thanks for any suggestions!
 
Sadly you are going to have to wait like the rest of us for a patch to fix the bugs in Lion. Lot's of us are having issues like yours.
 
Macman45 said:
Run disk utility, and verify your hdd.

Then run check disk permissions

Then run repair permissions.

Hope this helps
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Quick question - can I work normally on some applications durning that operations?
I don't know if I can run it now or have to wait till I will go to sleep - I have to do some work today.
 
verify disk took 3 minutes, verifying permissions estimated time 8 minutes..
I will do the dishes and hope for the best.
for now no errors.

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Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/zh_TW.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/zh_CN.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ru.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ko.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/nl.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/it.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/es.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/fr.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/de.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ja.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
and after that a lot of Library/Image Capture/* and Library/Printers/*
it looks not so dangerous
but:

Warning: SUID file “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent” has been modified and will not be repaired.
ACL found but not expected on “private/var/db/launchd.db/com.apple.launchd”

?
 
Yep, none of the disk repair stuff worked for me. One machine was crashing regularly so it is back on SL for now. THis was the reason that I said the OP would have to wait for a patch. Repairing the permissions can't hurt, but I don't think it will resolve the problem.
 
temen said:
You could run terminal for example, I couldn't do anything more than moving mouse pointer ;)
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I could launch terminal.....but couldn't type anything.

Seems that my crash and others is related to coreservicesd crashing:


Sep 16 15:36:10 ReportCrash[16019]: DebugSymbols was unable to start a spotlight query: spotlight is not responding or disabled.
*
Sep 16 15:36:10 com.apple.launchd[1] (com.apple.coreservicesd[33]): Job appears to have crashed: Segmentation fault: 11
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See if that's what caused your issue or not. It should be right at the time the system crashed.

-Kevin
 
At this point in time, with Lion, it's commendable to do a clean restart regularly, maybe once a week at least.
Lion seems to behave strangely with the most recent machines. With my 4 years iMac though, it runs nicely overall. Kinda paradoxal.
 
kbmb said:
Seems that my crash and others is related to coreservicesd crashing:

See if that's what caused your issue or not. It should be right at the time the system crashed.

-Kevin
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Nope, I did not found any of these 2 lines in my system.log at whole day
 
Bernard SG said:
At this point in time, with Lion, it's commendable to do a clean restart regularly, maybe once a week at least.
Lion seems to behave strangely with the most recent machines. With my 4 years iMac though, it runs nicely overall. Kinda paradoxal.
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I will say.....I'm seeing this as well on my 2010 Mac Pro. After 5 days uptime....Lion tends to go wonky :D

Very un-OS X like!

-Kevin
 
Bernard SG said:
At this point in time, with Lion, it's commendable to do a clean restart regularly, maybe once a week at least.
Lion seems to behave strangely with the most recent machines. With my 4 years iMac though, it runs nicely overall. Kinda paradoxal.
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Yeah.. It is paradoxal.:D

However thanks for the hint, I will try to make more regullar reboots.. ;)
 
temen said:
Nope, I did not found any of these 2 lines in my system.log at whole day
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Ok...well, hopefully you find what's causing your crashes. I'd look closely at the system.log right around when the crash occurred to see what's happening. You can also check out the kernel.log to see if that had issues reported.

-Kevin
 
kbmb said:
Very un-OS X like!
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Yeah, that's right.
As I said it was the main reason why I bought macbook for some $ more than the same hardware notebooks with pc/windows.
Steve just went off and my world is crashing.;)
 
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temen said:
Yeah, that's right.
As I said it was the main reason why I bought macbook for some $ more than the same hardware notebooks with pc/windows.
Steve just went off and my world is crashing.;)
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Fingers crossed that 10.7.2 isn't just a bunch of iCloud crap....and contains real fixes. 10.7.1 was a joke.

-Kevin
 
in kernel.log just before restart I have:
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: ** Device in slot: SLOT--1 **
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: ** GPU Debug Info Start **
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00006741
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000008f
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000018
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000b080
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:31: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00006741
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000015
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000047
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000058
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000012
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000055
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000004a
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000106b
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000004d
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x000000e3
 
temen said:
in kernel.log just before restart I have:
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: ** Device in slot: SLOT--1 **
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: ** GPU Debug Info Start **
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00006741
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000008f
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000018
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000b080
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:31: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00006741
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000015
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000047
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000058
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000012
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000055
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000004a
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000106b
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000004d
Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x000000e3
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Looks like GPU issue. Where you using the integrated GPU or the dedicated?

I will say...the one thing Apple is NOT good at is Graphics drivers. Oh man are they bad and buggy.

-Kevin
 
Problem happens:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2690194?start=0&tstart=0

no real solution for now. :(

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kbmb said:
Looks like GPU issue. Where you using the integrated GPU or the dedicated?

I will say...the one thing Apple is NOT good at is Graphics drivers. Oh man are they bad and buggy.

-Kevin
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dedicated for 99,99%.
Integrated Im running only before opening the browser with gmail (they have some flash if I remember correct), and.. it's enough to say Im opening the browser as a first thing after booting up.. ;)
 
temen said:
Problem happens:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2690194?start=0&tstart=0

no real solution for now. :(

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dedicated for 99,99%.
Integrated Im running only before opening the browser with gmail (they have some flash if I remember correct), and.. it's enough to say Im opening the browser as a first thing after booting up.. ;)
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OP. if it's not a new machine, return it to SL.
My opinion only of course, you can fight but you might not like the battle w/Lion
 
tigres said:
OP. if it's not a new machine, return it to SL.
My opinion only of course, you can fight but you might not like the battle w/Lion
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Sad part is.....do a search for GPU Debug Info Start and most of the posts and articles go back to early 10.6.3 days.......like I said....Apple is BAD at graphics!

-Kevin
 
I have 2011 mac from April or something like that, in theory I can do a downgrade to snow leo I think.


Okay.. Thanks guys. I will wait till next crash probably (I'd rather avoid downloade) and if I will get tired of this crashes before next update which can fix it I will do a downgrade.
That's sounds like a plan.. almost. ;)
 
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