crashed, again, second time..

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Lion (10.7)' started by temen, Sep 27, 2011.

  1. temen macrumors member

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    Hi,

    Today, for the second time in last 2 months my osx crashed.
    I could move my mouse pointer, but that's all - cmd+alt(+shift)+esc sequence did not work, I couldn't click on anything.. Waited 2-3 minutes (at the first time this situation occured I waited longer) and rebooted by clicking and holding power button.
    The main reason I bought again macbook is the OS X.
    I like this system, his stability and usability.
    What can I do to debug it, find out why it crashes or how can I get it running without restarting?

    (I will skip the part where after rebooting I had to wait 2-3 minutes before all applications will start again.. damn you lion.)

    thanks for any suggestions!
     
  2. Macman45 macrumors demi-god

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    Try Repairing Your Permissions

    Run disk utility, and verify your hdd.

    Then run check disk permissions

    Then run repair permissions.

    Hope this helps
     
  3. wpotere Guest

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    Sadly you are going to have to wait like the rest of us for a patch to fix the bugs in Lion. Lot's of us are having issues like yours.
     
  4. temen thread starter macrumors member

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    Quick question - can I work normally on some applications durning that operations?
    I don't know if I can run it now or have to wait till I will go to sleep - I have to do some work today.
     
  5. Macman45 macrumors demi-god

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    No

    Do it when you don't need to use the machine.
     
  6. tigres macrumors 68040

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    The above does not take but a few minutes, at least on my machine(s).
     
  7. temen thread starter macrumors member

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    verify disk took 3 minutes, verifying permissions estimated time 8 minutes..
    I will do the dishes and hope for the best.
    for now no errors.

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    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/zh_TW.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/zh_CN.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ru.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ko.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/nl.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/it.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/es.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/fr.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/de.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    Permissions differ on “usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/admin/ja.lproj/app/javascript.js”; should be lrwxrwxrwx ; they are lrwxr-xr-x .
    and after that a lot of Library/Image Capture/* and Library/Printers/*
    it looks not so dangerous
    but:

    Warning: SUID file “System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent” has been modified and will not be repaired.
    ACL found but not expected on “private/var/db/launchd.db/com.apple.launchd”

    ?
     
  8. netnothing macrumors 68040

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  9. wpotere Guest

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    Yep, none of the disk repair stuff worked for me. One machine was crashing regularly so it is back on SL for now. THis was the reason that I said the OP would have to wait for a patch. Repairing the permissions can't hurt, but I don't think it will resolve the problem.
     
  10. temen thread starter macrumors member

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    You could run terminal for example, I couldn't do anything more than moving mouse pointer ;)
     
  11. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    I could launch terminal.....but couldn't type anything.

    Seems that my crash and others is related to coreservicesd crashing:


    See if that's what caused your issue or not. It should be right at the time the system crashed.

    -Kevin
     
  12. Bernard SG macrumors 65816

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    At this point in time, with Lion, it's commendable to do a clean restart regularly, maybe once a week at least.
    Lion seems to behave strangely with the most recent machines. With my 4 years iMac though, it runs nicely overall. Kinda paradoxal.
     
  13. temen thread starter macrumors member

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    Nope, I did not found any of these 2 lines in my system.log at whole day
     
  14. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    I will say.....I'm seeing this as well on my 2010 Mac Pro. After 5 days uptime....Lion tends to go wonky :D

    Very un-OS X like!

    -Kevin
     
  15. temen thread starter macrumors member

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    Yeah.. It is paradoxal.:D

    However thanks for the hint, I will try to make more regullar reboots.. ;)
     
  16. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Ok...well, hopefully you find what's causing your crashes. I'd look closely at the system.log right around when the crash occurred to see what's happening. You can also check out the kernel.log to see if that had issues reported.

    -Kevin
     
  17. temen, Sep 27, 2011
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    temen thread starter macrumors member

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    Yeah, that's right.
    As I said it was the main reason why I bought macbook for some $ more than the same hardware notebooks with pc/windows.
    Steve just went off and my world is crashing.;)
     
  18. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Fingers crossed that 10.7.2 isn't just a bunch of iCloud crap....and contains real fixes. 10.7.1 was a joke.

    -Kevin
     
  19. temen thread starter macrumors member

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    in kernel.log just before restart I have:
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: ** Device in slot: SLOT--1 **
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: ** GPU Debug Info Start **
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00006741
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000008f
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000018
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000b080
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
    Sep 27 16:23:31: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00006741
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000015
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
    Sep 27 16:23:31 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000047
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000058
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000012
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000055
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000000
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000004a
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000106b
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x00000001
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x0000004d
    Sep 27 16:23:32 piotrmac kernel[0]: 0x000000e3
     
  20. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Looks like GPU issue. Where you using the integrated GPU or the dedicated?

    I will say...the one thing Apple is NOT good at is Graphics drivers. Oh man are they bad and buggy.

    -Kevin
     
  21. temen thread starter macrumors member

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    Problem happens:
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2690194?start=0&tstart=0

    no real solution for now. :(

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    dedicated for 99,99%.
    Integrated Im running only before opening the browser with gmail (they have some flash if I remember correct), and.. it's enough to say Im opening the browser as a first thing after booting up.. ;)
     
  22. tigres macrumors 68040

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    OP. if it's not a new machine, return it to SL.
    My opinion only of course, you can fight but you might not like the battle w/Lion
     
  23. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Sad part is.....do a search for GPU Debug Info Start and most of the posts and articles go back to early 10.6.3 days.......like I said....Apple is BAD at graphics!

    -Kevin
     
  24. temen thread starter macrumors member

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    I have 2011 mac from April or something like that, in theory I can do a downgrade to snow leo I think.


    Okay.. Thanks guys. I will wait till next crash probably (I'd rather avoid downloade) and if I will get tired of this crashes before next update which can fix it I will do a downgrade.
    That's sounds like a plan.. almost. ;)
     
  25. Quad5Ny macrumors 6502a

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    That's because Nvidia/AMD/Intel writes them.
     

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