Creating a new word file

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  1. realchimera macrumors regular

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    How do I create a new word/text file on Mac? I used to right click to create new files in windows: 1. Create file. 2. Name file. 3. Open file. 4. Fill file with content. 5. Save file

    Now everything is more complicated on Mac. Is there a fast/ convenient way to create word/text file? Thanks.
     
  2. MrCheeto macrumors 68030

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    What? What are you trying to accomplish exactly?

    More complicated? Want to make a document out of the words in my post? Select them all, then drag them to a folder or your Desktop. 2 steps vs 5 <.< so much more complicated.
     
  3. realchimera thread starter macrumors regular

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    My question is how to create a word file in the first place.
     
  4. maflynn, Aug 23, 2011
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    Open Word,
    Start typing
    Save

    How hard is that
     
  5. Mrguidogenio macrumors regular

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    WOW Didn't knew this. Thanks! :D
     
  6. Gregg2 macrumors 603

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    Not so! Just because you're unfamiliar with how it works does not equate to it being complicated.

    Click on the Word app, or an alias (in Dock or anywhere)
    Word opens to the Project Gallery.
    Word Document should be highlighted in the "New" panel. If not, get there and click it.
    Now click the Open button.
    A blank document opens. Type in it.
    Now select File > SaveAs to save it where you want it to go. (We can help with that if you have questions.)
    Give it a name. Click Save.

    Windows has the process exactly backwards. ;)
     
  7. realchimera thread starter macrumors regular

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    ugh.... that's what i'm doing. Apple makes everything more complicated to amuse people. There are extra tons of combinations involve the extra fn,and command keys. Basically they are copying windows, using command to replace ctrl, move the task bar from bottom to the top, keep the new file on the left side of the screen instead right side...blah blah blah

    They are trying hard to be different from windows with some superficial stuffs. And actually we like difference, just like why people elected obama for president. Windows is like our wives and OS X is like mistresses which could bring us a lot of fun. I love my macbook pro, just b/c it's cool looking and it's more expensive than other laptops, and it's always fun to learn new stuffs before i get bored with it b/c of its low efficiency.
     
  8. MrCheeto macrumors 68030

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    Except for the fact that Apple originated Command+C to copy, Command+V to paste, Command+X to cut, etc. You realize Apple was the first to mass produce GUI centric computers...almost a decade before Microsoft. Microsoft wouldn't have been capable of selecting or copying any text in the first place until then... think about that.

    Recycle bin? It was originally called the Trash on the Macintosh in 1984. Contextual Menus? File Edit etc? Yeah, that stuff too...

    Windows has always copied from Mac OS, it's just a basic fact of life. They're the Chinese-Gucci-knock-off of computers.

    c.1984 Look Familiar?
    [​IMG]
     
  9. gusmahler macrumors member

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    What the heck? This isn't even correct for Windows. You don't create a file and name it before you save it in Windows.

    You do it the exact same way in both Windows and Mac:

    1. Open Word
    2. Cmd-N (or Ctrl-N for Windows)
    3. Select OK
    4. Fill file with content
    5. Cmd-S (or Ctrl-S for Windows)
    6. Name the File
    7. Hit OK.

    Again, this is the EXACT SAME process, with the exception of hitting command for the Mac and control for Windows.
     
  10. realchimera thread starter macrumors regular

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    The problem is when you save the file you need to make a lot of clicks to go to the desired folder. I have transfered more than 40 GB of data files to my Mac, and I have too many folder/sub-folders. It's tedious to select the folder every time I want to save/create a file
     
  11. MrCheeto macrumors 68030

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    Are you talking about this???
    [​IMG]

    Click that little down-arrow next to the Save field. Magical, ain't it?

    If you're going to use another operating system, you can't be ignorant and afraid of change. You have to press every button and pull every lever to find all the neat little features that will make your life easy, depending on whether or not you let it. I have a feeling you're going to go into this expecting disappointment.
     
  12. nebo1ss macrumors 68030

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    Xerox invented the Windows like GUI. Both Apple and Microsoft copied from Xerox.
     
  13. realchimera thread starter macrumors regular

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    Well, I just got mac for 4 days....so far the experience is not bad. Only disappointing thing is that many software for Mac look like they are still unfinished, and I have to run windows applications in Fusion to process my data from work.
     
  14. MrCheeto macrumors 68030

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    Windows-like GUI? Wouldn't it be:
    Mac is Xerox-like
    Windows is Mac-like

    At any rate, Apple had consent to work on what Xerox had started and none of my examples exist in Xerox' work. The Command shortcuts, Trash, Contextual and File menus all originated from Apple. Windows is a blatant rip-off.

    You should try the Mac App Store. It's curated so if the apps aren't safe and functional, they don't make it there.
     
  15. Jolly Jimmy, Aug 23, 2011
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    This kind of thing is possible and I find it very useful, but you need an app than can run applescripts on demand via keyboard shortcuts like Spark or Quicksilver, and a script to do the work, so it's not exactly un-complicated. But once it's set up it works very well. Here's one I wrote. Running it via a shorcut using Spark I can create/name/save/open a text file in one go into the current folder I'm viewing in the finder.

    Code:
    set file_extension to "txt"
    
    	tell application "Finder"
    		set save_folder to insertion location as alias
    		set save_folder_name to name of save_folder
    		set new_file to choose file name with prompt "Enter file name:" default location save_folder
    		set whole_file_name to ((new_file as text) & "." & file_extension)
    		set new_file_POSIX to POSIX path of new_file
    		get exists of whole_file_name
    		
    		if result is true then
    			beep
    			set new_file_alias to whole_file_name as alias
    			set file_name to name of new_file_alias
    			
    			if save_folder_name = "Desktop" then
    				display alert "\"" & file_name & "\" already exists. Do you want to replace it?" message "A file with the same name already exists on the Desktop. Replacing it will overwrite its current contents." buttons {"Replace", "Cancel"} as warning
    			else
    				display alert "\"" & file_name & "\" already exists. Do you want to replace it?" message "A file with the same name already exists in the folder " & save_folder_name & ". Replacing it will overwrite its current contents." buttons {"Replace", "Cancel"} as warning
    			end if
    			
    			if button returned of result = "Replace" then
    				do shell script "rm -rf '" & new_file_POSIX & "." & file_extension & "'"
    				delay 0.2
    				do shell script "touch '" & new_file_POSIX & "." & file_extension & "'"
    				delay 0.2
    				set extension hidden of new_file_alias to true
    				delay 0.1
    				select file whole_file_name
    				open file whole_file_name
    			end if
    		else
    			do shell script "touch '" & new_file_POSIX & "." & file_extension & "'"
    			
    			set new_file_alias to whole_file_name as alias
    			set file_name to name of new_file_alias
    			
    			delay 0.2
    			set extension hidden of new_file_alias to true
    			delay 0.1
    			select file whole_file_name
    			open file whole_file_name
    		end if
    	end tell
    
    EDIT : Try it out using AppleScript Editor.app. This one is for .txt files but simply changing the extension name in the first line works for many other file types. For .rtf files a slightly different method is required though if this interests anyone.
     
  16. gusmahler, Aug 23, 2011
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    I think I understand what you're getting at.

    The default save dialog box for OS X kind of sucks because you can't easily switch between folders. The Expanded Dialog box makes it much easier to select a folder.

    http://www.macworld.com/article/53969/2006/11/bigsave.html

    Don't know if this works in Lion, but it's worked since 10.4, apparently.
     
  17. gr8tfly macrumors 603

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    Apple didn't copy Xerox without permission - they asked, but Xerox essentially didn't care about it one way or the other. MS didn't have any project in place, until they saw what Apple had. MS didn't have anything very useable until v2, which was several years later. Even then, it didn't really begin to catch on until Windows v3.

    I'm over simplifying, but it didn't happen in the order you posted.
     
  18. Daffodil macrumors 6502

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    Just because you're unfamiliar with it does not make it bad. :)

    If you have subfolders that you use more often and don't want to click your way there, add them to Places in Finder, and they'll show up right away. It's just a matter of dragging the folder to the toolbar on the left and voila, it'll show up there when you save stuff in Word too.
     
  19. Thiso macrumors newbie

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    Is there any easier way to do this yet. I agree, Windows was easier to just right click, new word document, rename. I have just changed to Mac because 'everything is easier', but there are a couple of silly things I've noticed, like, enter on a logo renames it rather than opens it = stupid. Also, Delete on a file does nothing, must drag and drop. And then this new word document is more painful. whinge over, everything else good ;-)
     
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    Easiest way: Get Windows, so it acts and looks and smells like Windows.

    Fixed.
     
  21. poppytulip macrumors newbie

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    --- Post Merged, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:46 PM ---
    I completely understand the intial question. I would like to open a folder and create a word document directly in that folder. SO far, my understanding is that i need to create it and then "save as" and rifle through all my folders to find the right one. or i can create it on my desk top and drag it to the folder. It would be far more convenient to just be able to create it directly in the folder (the way it can be done in windows with a right click).
     
  22. chown33 macrumors 604

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    No rifling needed.

    When the "Save as" dialog is open, you can drag a folder from the Finder onto that dialog, and drop it. This should move the location shown in that dialog to the location of the folder.

    As far as I know, you've always been able to drag-n-drop folders onto Save as (or Open...) dialogs in Mac OS X. I can certainly remember doing it in 10.2.


    There are also ways to add actions to the "right-click menu" in Finder, but that's a separate question.
     
  23. theluggage macrumors 68040

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    Actually, that is the question.

    In Windows, without opening any application you can open a folder, right click, choose New-> and there's a menu of common file types that you can create right there - including Office files and plain text files. Once its created, just double-click it and you're off.

    Its useful, and quicker than opening the application, creating a new document and then saving it. Mac users who've never had it won't miss it.

    Its something that you ought to be able to fix using Automator, but I'm not sure the Automator actions for Word work any more...
     
  24. chown33 macrumors 604

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    I'd think it might be possible without using any Automator actions from Word.

    A Word file is just a file (or possibly a package/bundle, i.e. a directory masquerading as a file). Whatever a Word document is, it's something that exists within the file-system, and can be duplicated therein.

    To start, create a prototype of whatever it is that you want. Store it somewhere convenient under the ~/Library folder. Then make an Automator action that duplicates the prototype you made to the current folder. That's a simple outline of what needs to happen.

    You don't need Word actions to duplicate something, just use a Finder action, or even an AppleScript or Shell script action. As long as the prototype being duplicated is something in the file-system, then it should be duplicatable without using Word.

    There are almost certainly a fair number of details I've glossed over, or am simply ignorant of because I don't have Word.

    If you want to try making an Automator action, I'm willing to contribute my experience with Automator, and my experience with shell scripts, file-systems, etc. It's the kind of thing that seems entirely possible to me, and if it eventually turns out it's not, it would be interesting to know the reasons why not.

    Sometimes the best available answer is "Try it; see what happens", as long as one is willing to try things to see what happens.
     
  25. theluggage macrumors 68040

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    D'oh! That should work.

    If it bubbles to the top of my "to do" list I'll have fun working it out (including how to get it on the context menu instead of the Services menu) - which is why I started faffing around with Automator instead of looking on the ruddy App store (double D'oh!):

    I've just had a look on the App store and found "New File Menu Free" which exactly solves the problem. There's a paid version for £1.99 (so probably $2 in the US). The free version only lets you have one type of 'new file' at a time on the menu (from a long list of templates that you can extend).
     

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