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I'm not sure what to think yet (I've only been out since the end of January), but I'm already missing the lack of communication in some civilian groups, at least compared to the unit I was in. I ended up passing word around in one of my classes because not everybody was checking Slack for last-minute schedule changes.

Dude i just left a 70k a year job because I couldn't adjust to the civilian mentality of entitlement. Well, plus the fact I was 1/70 white to black and this was in the pit of Baltimore, so I had friction the moment I started. I am medically retired though and my wife is still active so we aren't hurting for food or shelter so it made it an easier thing to walk away from which you know us Marines don't like to do. In talks with Lockheed Martin and the medical marijuana business here in MD (I know crazy opposites right!? lol) to start working soon but I also used VocRehab for my BS and am now about to use the GI bill to knock out two masters degrees starting October. I do miss the camaraderie, even though it was dying hard towards the end of my 10 year spree. I miss the junior Marines that I was in charge of molding and guiding, luckily some of them still call me from time to time to ask for investment or Marine advice so that feels good!
 
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I have been running for around 4 years ( I started late in life) always with my phone wearing a heart rate monitor and keeping the phone in a fanny pack.

Since receiving delivery of my series 2 Apple Watch I feel completely liberated and now only run with the watch and blue tooth headphones.

Thank you Apple I love it
 
Dude i just left a 70k a year job because I couldn't adjust to the civilian mentality of entitlement.
I'll be starting a 70k job in a couple weeks. It's still civilian, but on an Army base, so it won't feel too far out of whack, I hope.

In talks with Lockheed Martin and the medical marijuana business here in MD (I know crazy opposites right!? lol) to start working soon but I also used VocRehab for my BS and am now about to use the GI bill to knock out two masters degrees starting October.
Remind me (it's been 16 years since I've been in regular school) -- can I get a master's in a field different than my bachelor's? My BA is in music, but I'm doing computer code now and have been thinking of a master's in CS. Mainly a check in the box for government jobs, but hey...
 
...i finally dont have to hold my phone while running. t
Been running with my iPhone since 2007 and have NEVER carried it in my hand. Have been using 'fanny pack' type cases the whole time.
 
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Must say I have just sold my 1st gen. to upgrade primarily to a GPS equipped 2nd gen. I would love to run without my phone - I'll bring it once in a while for music (somehow Spotify have stayed too far away from the watch until now - please let me load the Spotify app and just offline sync a single playlist?)...

But sometimes the sheer joy of a afternoon or morning run with nothing but the watch would be great (like it was with my old GPS Nike+ watch)... The silence... Disconnected and just emptying your head after a hard day or before one is delightful.
 
I'll be starting a 70k job in a couple weeks. It's still civilian, but on an Army base, so it won't feel too far out of whack, I hope.

That is what I am hoping for if I go to Lockheed. I mean we still have to get over the army mentality but I'm sure it is better than working with straight up civilians in the pit of Baltimore!
 
Thats why i never understood the need for a gps chip. We still want to have our phones on us in case of an emergency.
GPS CHIP < WIRELESS CHIP
99% of people would rather have a wireless chip so we can actual call somebody in case something happens. Do runners really never run with anything else but a watch and headphones?
 
i always run with my phone, i use flip belt, since discovering this product, i finally dont have to hold my phone while running. https://www.amazon.com/Level-Terrai...=UTF8&qid=1474434612&sr=8-1&keywords=flipbelt
Same here. Best belt I've used. I keep a 7+ (and before that 6S+ and 6+) at the base of my back – including races and marathons – and really can't tell it's there. I wouldn't want to be with my phone (or camera) on a run.

That being said, I've upgraded to the Series 2. It's nice to have the option of GPS without the phone, and the increased speed and brightness are worth it t me.
 
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Thats why i never understood the need for a gps chip. We still want to have our phones on us in case of an emergency.
GPS CHIP < WIRELESS CHIP
99% of people would rather have a wireless chip so we can actual call somebody in case something happens. Do runners really never run with anything else but a watch and headphones?
It appears that Apple could be shifting the product placement from fashion to more of an activity and fitness tracking device. GPS is necessary to be credible and competitive in its price and product segment. Devices that cost 1/3 the price of an AWS2 have GPS and market against Apple. I do not think that there is any activity or fitness device above $300 (and maybe only $250) without GPS.

Yes, I run short runs with just a watch and no phone or headphones. Also, my phone-based GPS experience (statistically validated) has been inaccurate and unreliable compared to my watch-based GPS... like 5 times more inaccurate. iPhone-based GPS has a standard deviation of about 0.1 miles on a 5 mile run. Whereas, my watch-based GPS has a standard deviation of 0.02 miles on the same run.
 
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Thats why i never understood the need for a gps chip. We still want to have our phones on us in case of an emergency.
GPS CHIP < WIRELESS CHIP
99% of people would rather have a wireless chip so we can actual call somebody in case something happens. Do runners really never run with anything else but a watch and headphones?

Not all of us. Plenty of us, in fact, the majority of runners I know, don't run with phones. I would say most run with Garmin devices and a HR chest strap and that's it. With the Series 2, the only thing I run with is the watch and my BT headphones. It has only been in the last 5 or 6 years that people actually began running with phones.

Phones are bulky and carrying them, can cause poor running form, injuries, etc. I ran with my phone in a SpiBelt for a short time and developed a sore hip. Don't know for sure that is what caused it, but it went away when I ditched the belt.
 
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We used to not have antibiotics either and I wouldn't want to be without them, would you?. Being 50 miles away from your home on a bike or 8 miles away from your home on a run without a phone just isn't smart.

Apples and oranges. Anyway, we are going to be without antibiotics soon if Drs don't stop over prescribing them and people don't stop overusing them.

I find taking a run, hike, bike ride without my phone liberating and the best thing I can do for my mind all day. Yes, I have had a flat miles from home, but somehow I got by. Life's an adventure. To me the watch offers a tempting compromise, GPS and music without connectivity to all the noise in my life.
 
I will never run without my phone. I want it in case of an emergency (and now, SOS isn't the same).
 
Same here. Best belt I've used. I keep a 7+ (and before that 6S+ and 6+) at the base of my back – including races and marathons – and really can't tell it's there. I wouldn't want to be with my phone (or camera) on a run.

That being said, I've upgraded to the Series 2. It's nice to have the option of GPS without the phone, and the increased speed and brightness are worth it t me.

do you still run with your phone?
 
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