That just shows you have no idea what an resilience and agility posture is in an enterprise corporation environment.
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CrowdStrike Says Global IT Outage Impacting Windows PCs, But Mac and Linux Hosts Not Affected
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Let me guess, let’s look at the $ value… nah too expensive. It’ll be the exact same with AI that every large corporation under the sun is jumping on, when that goes belly up and they lose millions and millions I hope they don’t complain.
Dude educate yourself...... Look at post right above mine. He say it perfectly.....Its not all about money it about expertise and the overhead to support a inhouse solution.
You aren’t seriously advocating to not utilise end point security by a third party but do your own instead. Surely not? As this comes across like you are 🤷♂️
Organisations of the scale that utilize Crowdstrike are very likely to have business continuity and disaster recovery plans. I’m assuming that is what you are referring to when talking a out backup solutions in this context opposed. And yes for some department, teams and functions sit back and do nothing is the sensible route as silly as that sounds. However, you made the comments in response to having meetings and war rooms setup. You still need to disseminate the decisions, refresh peoples minds about what the business continuity and disaster recovery plans are. Contain the situation from spreading. But also devise the plans and allocate Human Resources of which areas to get up and running first. Most definitely not a case of sit back.
Perhaps, but if the Falcon Sensor were running in such a restricted state that it could be bypassed by macOS, then it would not be able to provide the kernel-level security protections that it was designed for in the first place, making the macOS system inherently less secure than its Windows counterpart.
You‘ve literally contradicted yourself, it’s not about money but it’s about overheads… it’s ALWAYS about money, if they had the jobs for the IT sector and paid decent wages then more people would join it. You create the market and people will train to work in it. Last I checked the IT market was over saturated.
Macs are not the alternative realistically. It’s Linux.
To the Windows apologists who say, "this could just as easily have been a Mac problem". That's not true. How third-party drivers are handled and installed on MacOS and Linux is totally different to Windows - and far less likely to make your machine un-bootable.
This problem has mainly hit end-user machines, as typically they are the ones IT likes to force security products onto to prevent malware infections. Servers are often "cleaner" as they are in an environment with strictly controlled access.
Many of those enduser machines can be replaced by Macs as nowadays users access cloud services like Office 365 that function perfectly well on Macs. And the UI of Macs is close to iPhone UIs, so most users are at least somewhat familiar with the "Apple" way of doing things. So walking down to the Apple Store and picking up 20 MacBook Airs might be cost effective vs waiting days for an IT guy to come by and hold down the F8 key and maybe find a BitLocker key ( I have been there)
This problem has mainly hit end-user machines, as typically they are the ones IT likes to force security products onto to prevent malware infections. Servers are often "cleaner" as they are in an environment with strictly controlled access.
Many of those enduser machines can be replaced by Macs as nowadays users access cloud services like Office 365 that function perfectly well on Macs. And the UI of Macs is close to iPhone UIs, so most users are at least somewhat familiar with the "Apple" way of doing things. So walking down to the Apple Store and picking up 20 MacBook Airs might be cost effective vs waiting days for an IT guy to come by and hold down the F8 key and maybe find a BitLocker key ( I have been there)
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on the ignore list you go....you know not of what you speak. You just have no clue....
I'm surprised that the MacRumors editors missed this detail. It's CrowdStrike, not Crowdstrike. These small details matter to us passionate Apple users. It's iPhone, not Iphone.
Not true, and not relevant to this topic. iPhones have been known to evade cracking for days, weeks, months.
Cant believe how widespread and damaging this is.
A widespread system failure is currently affecting numerous Windows devices globally, causing critical boot failures across various industries, including banks, rail networks, airlines, retailers, broadcasters, healthcare, and many more sectors. The issue, manifesting as a Blue Screen of Death (BSOD), is preventing computers from starting up properly and forcing them into continuous recovery cycles.
The cause of the failure has been identified as an update to Crowdstrike Falcon antivirus software installed on Windows 10 PCs, but Mac and Linux machines running the same cybersecurity software have been spared. Crowdstrike, which specializes in endpoint security protection for corporate networks, has just released the following statement:
Unfortunately, the nature of the problem means that fixing it isn't as simple as installing a patch. The workaround to break the infinite boot cycle on affected Windows machines involves manually booting into safe mode, navigating to the CrowdStrike directory, and deleting the system file that caused the problem. As such, it could be a while before all services impacted by the content update are back up and running.
For those who have a Windows machine that has succumbed to the botched update (now rolled back), Crowdstrike has outlined the following steps system admins need to take to get back up and running:
As expected, Apple's system status webpage shows no issues with its services, however there have been scattered reports of problems with contactless payments across some businesses, which could prevent Apple Pay transactions from being processed.
- Boot Windows into Safe Mode or the Windows Recovery Environment.
- Navigate to the C:\Windows\System32\drivers\CrowdStrike directory.
- Locate the file matching 'C-00000291*.sys', and delete it.
- Boot the host normally.
Article Link: Crowdstrike Says Global IT Outage Impacting Windows PCs, But Mac and Linux Hosts Not Aff
Maybe finally some companies will realize how horrible windows is, switch to MacOS or Linux
I feel for you.
(When I was working my day started at 4am, finished at 5pm).
At my work MacBook Air are cheaper to buy than the HP that they have deals with. I managed to convince my management to let me get a MacBook air instead and coworkers are slowly asking for them too as the 3 year renewal comes around.
About the same time there was a general downturn in tech stocks. MSFT started falling July 10/11, NVDA did as well. AAPL fell July 10/11, went up a little, and then has fallen since the 16th.
CRWD is well within the broader market patterns (other than today).
Are you saying companies should write their own security software? This is the worst take I have ever heard. If you don’t understand technology sit this one out. No company is writing their own OS, web engines, security software, etc. There are many pieces of software that are used across thousands of companies. They aren’t “cheap” either.
Exactly how are third party drivers on Linux and macOS handled "totally different to Windows?" This isn't your run-of-the-mill device driver, this is a security program that inserts itself into the boot process and requires the lowest-of-low level OS access in order to function properly. If you're saying that Linux and macOS do not provide that access to the software, then you're also saying that the software cannot provide the same level of security protection on Linux or macOS as it can on Windows. Considering how relatively unlikely an event like this is (unlikely, but not impossible, obviously), and how much more likely security attacks are, this doesn't actually make macOS or Linux the better solution that you think it does.
If those end-user machines were using 100% cloud-based services, there would not be the kind of outages that you see today, because you are right - it would have been very quick to swap out computers and have users log in and continue with their work (whether they were using macOS or Windows or any other system). The fact that this is such a widespread issue keeping so many users down should tell you that, no, most end-users are not using 100% cloud-based software.
If this was an outage only affecting users whose computing requirements were so simple that they could use a Macbook Air, this wouldn't have been a newsworthy incident in the first place.
I worked in IT for over 60 years. Managed Win* clients and servers, networks, 'ix, Solaris, SunOS, ....
Systems and networks have become much more complex. Hackers have much better tools.
So defensive mechanisms have to keep up.
What I don't understand is why this wasn't discovered by CS during testing before deployment.
My thoughts too....Don't they have a QA or test environment? I mean who peer reviewed these changes beforehand?
Doesn't every change management process require a proven back out or rollback process?
Think about that for a second windows should have a fallback to get around security software…….