Crucial exiting the consumer memory market

[Donfor39]

XMP11 Always has been...

 

[pshufd]

I was too. It was a somewhat more premium positioned option (albeit on the B650 chipset) with a lot of good features. The lesson I learned is, when combining two products, check the QVL list from BOTH manufacturers when possible, and try to confirm that others are using that combo with success.

I have a Tuf Gaming build which was my first in many years. Specs sounded okay but support was miserable. Basically one year of support and a BIOS update to support Windows 11 but lots of bugs not fixed. Tuf Gaming is one of their low-end boards. I think that Pro Art is in their mid-range, similar to the MSI Tomahawk. Then you get the RoG Strix at the high-end.

I suspect that they will eventually fix the RAM bug you saw. Functionality is one aspect of what you get for more expensive motherboards with ASUS but support is as well. If you want the best support down the road, you get the more expensive motherboards. We have an ASUS laptop from many years ago and there's a major bug in the cooling system such that the fans run full-blast most of the time. Even when nothing is running. It would have required a minor hardware fix and Asus just did nothing. So we went with an MSI system and it has been great. So Asus is off our list these days. I did look at the ProArt 13 and ProArt 16 this past spring and summer as they are considered very capable laptops with a lot of nice features.

Then there are the Gamers' Nexus videos:

ASUS Scammed Us
The ASUS Dumpster Fire
Confronting ASUS Face-to-Face

So what I've seen and researched is a thing. I think that any vendor can have a bad run and it's okay if they fix it but their reputation will take a hit and winning it back is difficult.

 

[Queen6]

I have a Tuf Gaming build which was my first in many years. Specs sounded okay but support was miserable. Basically one year of support and a BIOS update to support Windows 11 but lots of bugs not fixed. Tuf Gaming is one of their low-end boards. I think that Pro Art is in their mid-range, similar to the MSI Tomahawk. Then you get the RoG Strix at the high-end.

I suspect that they will eventually fix the RAM bug you saw. Functionality is one aspect of what you get for more expensive motherboards with ASUS but support is as well. If you want the best support down the road, you get the more expensive motherboards. We have an ASUS laptop from many years ago and there's a major bug in the cooling system such that the fans run full-blast most of the time. Even when nothing is running. It would have required a minor hardware fix and Asus just did nothing. So we went with an MSI system and it has been great. So Asus is off our list these days. I did look at the ProArt 13 and ProArt 16 this past spring and summer as they are considered very capable laptops with a lot of nice features.

Then there are the Gamers' Nexus videos:

ASUS Scammed Us
The ASUS Dumpster Fire
Confronting ASUS Face-to-Face

So what I've seen and researched is a thing. I think that any vendor can have a bad run and it's okay if they fix it but their reputation will take a hit and winning it back is difficult.

I have a need to be portable so haven't built a desktop in lightyears. I also don't want the headache of dealing with flaky vendors. Still need to do due diligence with notebooks as some are way overpriced and designed for failure. Am lucky as located close to the source and was able to speak & purchase directly from the manufacturer. Worked out a great deal and still might pick up the notebook's external water cooler with a discount

If I was to opt for a desktop I'd speak with a system builder in the tech district. Would be far simpler and likely cheaper. Any issue it would have a 2-year warranty, just tell the guys what you want, and they can give you price on the spot. Might as I want to move away from Window, right now need for gaming, however more and more notebook vendors are offering Linux as Windows is on borrowed time here...

My old Asus Scar served me well, close to 8 years but it's fading now and needs some $$$ put into it. Better to buy a new system and reroll the Asus as media server.

Q-6

 

[Lord Blackadder]

Micron’s most recent earnings call highlights just how screwed consumers are going to be as long as the AI Rapture lasts.

Micron can’t even come close to meeting AI-driven memory demand despite completely and indefinitely abandoning consumer products and their stock is soaring.

Companies that make consumer memory have no financial incentive to keep doing it in the short term. Capitalists betting big on AI have bought nearly the entire worlds supply of memory for the next 1.5-2 years, want much more, and unless the AI bubble really bursts there is no guarantee the situation will improve in the foreseeable future (after all, data centers will need to upgrade periodically, and they can buy more and pay more per unit than we consumers can).

Pretty grim. Maybe this means PCs will have to get by on slower / less memory for the next couple generations, putting pressure on software developers to write more efficient code. Sorry, did I say developers? I meant AI…

 

[Certificate of Excellence]

Sure makes those cheap -$300 i5 retina MBPs with 16gb DDR4 paired up with a light Linux distro like MX look pretty darn tempting.

 

[pshufd]

Sure makes those cheap -$300 i5 retina MBPs with 16gb DDR4 paired up with a light Linux distro like MX look pretty darn tempting.

I was considering recycling my 2015 MacBook Pro and 2015 27 inch iMac but I may just keep them now.