CS5 installs Growl automatically

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  1. netnothing macrumors 68040

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    Just an FYI, CS5 will install Growl automatically and start it.

    Yet the only app that it lists in the Growl config for Adobe is the Adobe Application Manager?!?


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  2. Lokheed macrumors regular

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    I noticed this today. WTH is that? Just true adobe fashion... ugh. I noticed it when I added a torrent to Transmission and it popped up a growl notification. As if I need more stuff installed, thanks Adobe...

    I wonder what it's used for as I only installed Ps CS5 (which is expensive enough).
     
  3. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I'm surprised you didn't have Growl already installed.
     
  4. colourfastt macrumors 6502a

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    Growl is an automatic download and install whenever I wipe and reinstall the OS (for me anyway).
     
  5. Ice Cream Man macrumors member

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    Growl seems pretty useless to me. I only installed it to monitor my site which uses prowl. Aside from monitoring things by remote, all it does is list a bunch of stupid notifications like i wanted a bunch of Windows like notification all the damn time. And seriously, telling me what track last.fm is updating! it's stupid. And yahoo messenger already tells me when i get mail, and i get mail when facebook notifies. Also, i don't want to have to leave the computer on just to get Growl/prowl to notify my of whatever the computer is notifying me of. Wouldn't it just be easier if email service providers offered a means of keying prowl to new messages. So i don't need my computer on to get Growl/prowl messages.

    As for Adobe, they probably just want to be able to nag you about crap like in Windows without making their own nag-you software. :rolleyes:
     
  6. calderone macrumors 68040

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    I personally like Growl. You can customize it to get only the things you want to get.
     
  7. Ice Cream Man macrumors member

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    I know it can be customized, but it just seems like a redundant tool. My iPhone already chimes if i get a new mail regardless of whether the computer is on. Mail chimes if i get new mail on the Mac. As does Yahoo Messenger. Overall i guess it just seems like another thing to have running for no real valuable reason to me.
     
  8. Eidorian macrumors Penryn

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    I can't have all my applications on screen simultaneously. I really like it for its AdiumX messages. You can hide an application but still know what's going on. It is the best application notification system that I have encountered.
     
  9. Ice Cream Man macrumors member

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    I tend to stick with Yahoo Messenger, i don't chat with anyone i care to talk to on anything else. And i tend to use the YM SMS feature allot, which doesn't tend to cary through on universal messengers. I also use Yahoo Voice for outgoing national Phone calls, it's really cheep, and i don't have to block any number for things i don't want having my number. That also doesn't tend to cary thru. And YM shows me what people said in it's notifications.

    I tried Pidgin for a while, but overall i just use enough features of YM that i can't get the full functionality from any of the universals. I use iChat for anything else, like Facebook, and Google Talk, which are the only two others i use. And it notifies me over anything i'm doing also. Which started becoming necessary as more people try to chat with me on Facebook, but i don't really always pay attention to that tab. So being able to use iChat for facebook is really handy.

    I have growl on now, but all it ever really tells me is what track i've just updated Last.fm with, but i don't really need a notification for that, i can hear what i'm listening to. I had loaded it thinking i might find better uses for it, but as i got into it i found it doesn't really seem to have matured as much as i had hoped since the last time i tried using it a few years ago ithink.
     
  10. Brien macrumors 68030

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    Perhaps Growl is just a love it or hate it affair, but to me personally, I can't stand it. And it's a PITA when apps are so heavy-handed about it's use.
     
  11. TheTick macrumors newbie

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    Did cs5 prompt you to install Growl?

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  12. netnothing thread starter macrumors 68040

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    There was no prompt (or any message) anywhere about Growl being installed.

    In fact, I'm not really sure why it is installed? The only Adobe app that can use it seems to be their Adobe Application Manager, and that's only for Application Registration Notification.

    Funny that I was never notified of anything from Adobe using Growl.

    The only way I realized it was installed on my machine was I got an alert from Dropbox.

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  13. TheTick macrumors newbie

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    Funnily enough, this is only the second instance I am aware of an application causing this. The first is (dun dun dun) drop box.

    This is against what we on the Growl project recommend.

    I didn't believe it at first, but apparently they use this for a single notification, and then just leave it there. That said I'm trying to find out more details, so this could still just be coincidence.


    Can you check the about tab and see if they left the "check for updates" enabled?
     
  14. netnothing thread starter macrumors 68040

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    On both my machines, the Check for Updates is checked.

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  15. TheTick macrumors newbie

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    Oh good, at least if this is the case, then people will get notifications for updates.
     
  16. MRU Suspended

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    Ok what's growl?

    Just found that it was running too on my machine. Recently upgraded my CS4 with CS5 upgrade. :confused:

    Is growl anything to worry about. What is it exactly ?
     
  17. Fireproof! macrumors 6502a

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    Do people not really like growl? I don't mind a few alerts. I primarily use it for download finishes and calendar event alerts.
     
  18. netnothing thread starter macrumors 68040

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    http://growl.info/about.php

    It's a notification system that allows apps (if they are Growl aware) to send popup notifications for the user to see.

    It's a love or hate app it seems.

    I never had it installed until CS5.....however for now I'm keeping it. I use it primarily for just Dropbox and FTP to be notified when files are added or done transferring.

    For me, as long as I can control it (which I can) to control which apps use it and how....and as long as it doesn't make the system unstable (which it hasn't so far) I'll give it a shot.

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  19. MRU Suspended

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    ^ Ok cool. I see it's working with Handbrake & Toast on my computer. I don't mind notifications.
     
  20. maflynn Moderator

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    For me its not that I don't like it, but rather adobe installed it without telling me. Perhaps I was being oblivious but I don't recall being prompted to allow the photoshop installer to install growl. They just went ahead and did it.

    I have no issue with growl, just that adobe installed applications without communicating and/or giving me an option to deny it.
     
  21. rk1991 macrumors regular

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    i tried growl but it wasnt for me.
    The moment i installed cs5 i downloaded the growl download from their website and ran the uninstall script.
    Growls a good program but it doesnt fit with the way i use my mac.
     
  22. netnothing thread starter macrumors 68040

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    That's the best part. Talk about lazy Adobe....install Growl just for one notification.

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  23. TheTick macrumors newbie

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    Exactly right. When we started Growl, the idea was that notifications were a good thing, if done right. That's what we've been trying to do ever since (for about 6 years).

    The idea is that you can get notifications, and that you can control them. Look in the applications tab, you can tell an application how to notify you, or simply shut it down right there. It's all central, which is the key.



    That's always been the case. Some people just don't like notifications. That's fine.

    To be honest, I don't do much more, and I run the project for Growl. I get notifications for downloads completed in a browser, and for when uploads complete for ftp. Not a whole lot else, except a few random things like scripts that I use.

    However, we have a huge list of applications which support Growl over at http://growl.info/applications.php


    Ya, control is a big thing for us.

    Which is why our philosophy for applications installing Growl has always been "ask the user". Which if this is the case, that cs5 installs without prompting, then that's against our philosophy.

    I'm happy we're getting new Growl users, but not at the expense of alienating them.
     
  24. TheTick macrumors newbie

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    Since it's already there, play around a little bit with the preferences. We have some neat notification styles (music video and nano are great, abovethenight is pretty, etc etc). We also have something that will read it out loud to you.

    Plus, if you really want, a guy made this iphone app called Prowl which will forward notifications from Growl to the iphone. I have yet to use it, but that's because my macbook pro won't turn on. :(
     
  25. MRU Suspended

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    Great stuff Chris 'TheTick' and thanks for coming on to the forum and spreading/expanding the info. Wish more development teams did this. It is appreciated.
    I just installed a few of the other notifications (growlhardware, growlmail, growlsafari) plugins now also. :):)
     

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