It's an old generation and even without an open multiplier "K" it's really not High-end
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Custom Built 21.5-inch iMac with Intel Core i9 Outperforms 24-inch M1 iMac in Tests
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The M1 draws at least 40W at its peak capacity, you take Apple's marketing department seriously.
Go and buy an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X, if you wish. If "faster" is everything. (It does cost more than an iMac for just the bare processor.)
The M1 manages very respectable benchmark speeds despite its integrated design being physically smaller than devices which require separate memory and GPU and using much less power. Which allows things like fast iPads without fans.
Pretty much every processor that has ever actually made it to market has seen enhanced versions - faster clocking, more cores, more storage (whether cache or memory for integrated devices), or whatever. If the current M1 is sufficient, fine. If it isn't, wait for the M1X, M2 or as I have already facetiously suggested, the M9.
Completely agree. It was a cool upgrade. Sometime, Mac users are like the damn Muskateers when their precious Teslas get criticised.
Thanks for sharing. Its a pretty extreme use case but interesting to see all the same
The M1 Mac Mini draws 39W at it's peak, as in the whole computer.
Intel's chip is rated at 65W but actually can draw 180W at full power.
That's what I did, I want to work on an Unreal 5 engine ... what a choice I have on Apple's side.
It wasn’t even a buttload of money? and double the performance in rendering isn’t “barely outperforming” lol. Fanboyism isn’t a flattering look.
I liked this video. Having upgraded my own older iMAC, the process was fun for enthusiasts for this kind of thing.
That being said, I also know that software support for Intel will be less and less in the coming years. The M1 may still be usable 6-7 years from now. Can that be said of the custom Intel?
But if someone already has a previous generation machine, I think it would be fun for them to try it out.
My next project is to find an older 27" imac cheap enough to attempt a similar upgrade.
That being said, I also know that software support for Intel will be less and less in the coming years. The M1 may still be usable 6-7 years from now. Can that be said of the custom Intel?
But if someone already has a previous generation machine, I think it would be fun for them to try it out.
My next project is to find an older 27" imac cheap enough to attempt a similar upgrade.
My only iMac upgrade experience was replacing a failed hard drive from a 21.5" iMac. Yes, I managed it. And then hit the issue which meant the fans ran at full power. Eventually found and installed software which got round the problem.
Then, a few years later, replaced that hard drive by an SSD. Having done the first drive replacement, doing the second on the same machine was much easier.
There was a sense of achievement. But I'd be happy never to have to do it again.
It's an old generation but for Intel old generation in fact beats newer generation. 11900k is a wast of sand now. In multiple benchmark and workload it is slower than 10900k. While in gaming scenarios 8086k is still the king among all Intel CPUs for its lower memory latency and better IMC overclock. 8086k can be faster than 10900k in a lot of games if you overclock them both to the limit.
K just means open multiplier for overclock. It's not related to High-end or not. 10900/9900 is always higher-end than any 10600k/9600k.
But we have been told over and over that Rosetta 2 is not an emulator but translates the code before execution. How much performance penalty is there in practice?
Besides, only Blender was an Intel executable. Both Geekbench 5 and Cinebench run natively on ARM.
As I understand (which is actually quite poorly), Rosetta 2 is both a translator and an emulator.
If the code has been translated, it eliminates the emulation overhead, but it can, for example, take several M1 instructions to do the same work as one x86 instruction. Whereas it might be possible to achieve the same functionality in fewer M1 instructions if written/compiled natively and only doing what the program logic actually requires.
If the code is being emulated, however well that was written, we cannot expect the same perofrmance as a native app.
Aww, bro do you need a cookie? Seriously y’all don’t have to be so defensive of all things Apple. Smh.
It depends. Many games are CPU intensive as well, for example open-world games with large drawing distances, strategy games with lots of NPCs, flight simulators etc.
I’ve managed to get my 9900KS @ 5.1GHz (all cores) up to 280w during stress test. Only then did it throttle slightly as my air cooler began to struggle.
During normal gaming, power usage tends to max out at 150w. Even then, with my 3090 GPU sucking an additional 300-400w and everything being air cooled, the sound of my PC cooling solution is still less obnoxious to listen to than when trying to game or do heavy workloads on my 15” MacBook Pro. Go figure.
Still... the girth of my PC case would probably send Jony Ive into instant cardiac arrest if he ever sees it...
Good luck with that. When my iMac Pro died late last year fixing it turned out to be a much harder affair because of the T2 chip. You can't replace parts yourself, you need Apple to do it because they need to authorise the parts with their server before the computer can even boot up. Not sure what I can do now that my Apple Care has expired.
I use a Mac Mini 2012 Quadcore i7 16gb RAM / 500gb / 4tb.
For me it is "fast enough", but I can extend the SSDs to 2x 4tb without paying "Apple tax".
The M1 chip is great. Love it. The Macs built around it I do love not. If I need more power I would get a Mac Pro 2010 12-core with up to 128gb RAM - and 4 slots for harddisks.
I am an audiophile. I love to listen to LOSSLESS music in highrez - which eats up lot of space in ALAC format - and insanely space as SACD.ISO files.
I think the move to ARM is great - but I think the industry will follow and though I am sure that ARM is the future indeed, I am not so sure the next UNIXish OS on my next ARM computer will made by Apple.
My dream would be a new ARM computer with LINUX running MacOS in VM-Ware. Cheap hardware and all the old software (which includes 32k OSX programs). To quote Jack Tramiel of Atari "The power without the price".
I did this a year ago, long before this video. Posted here as well. No heating issues- working fine for a year and fans only turn on playing graphics intensive games. Never overheats.
The stock 8100 with HD and 8gb ram was unusable out of the box - got for $850 at CostCo. After SSD, 32gb ram, and this i9 9900, it’s awesome and my chip was $300 and ram/SSD each <$100. Was also a fun project! Power supply board not a big deal AT ALL. Did with my 16yo then played Tomb Raider for hours.